Look up chaos theory sometime. What I was talking about, and what I believe Michael was talking about, is that sense of "chaos."
Increased heat causing more extreme weather is chaos theory in action: the more energetic the system, generally the more exaggerated the reaction to events both within the system and from outside. A prime example is the different states of matter: drop a solid object and it generally keeps its shape, drop a liquid and it sloshes about. Wind is the closest equivalent with respect to gases, I think.
Chaos also implies a lack of order. While a warming climate does increase entropy it doesnt change the physics behind what causes the weather.
Weather is actually the paradigmatic example of a chaotic system in the sense here. Chaos theory began when a meteorologist truncated a few digits in initial conditions of a weather simulation and got completely different results than if he'd left the digits in. What was discovered was that weather is extremely sensitive to relatively small disturbances.
Increase in average temperature means and increase in the thermal energy in the atmosphere and thus an increase in sensitivity to disturbance. So the term is appropriate.
If it gets too expensive, it will stop being a viable source of energy for many applications. Once it gets too expensive to be a power source for commercial electricity and transportation, we might as well have run out of it.
I'm reminded of a group of anarchists who met with a staunchly right-wing politician to give their support to his re-election, saying they were afraid if his opponent won people might get the idea that government could be effective.
It likely said that people who buy into large numbers of "outlying" (for lack of a better word) theories generally disregard anthropogenic climate change. It is likely not saying that people who disregard climate change also buy into the above mentioned outlying theories.
Whether that's what the paper said or not, that has certainly been my experience.
CO2's been known to be a greenhouse gas since the late 1800's. A series of speculative handwaves were used to avoid the conclusion that too much of it in the atmosphere would heat everything up, and only when they were debunked did it become a live issue.
My other contention is that there is a limited supply of oil. Deep sea drilling, fracking, and other tricks simply put off the day when oil starts to become like it statred in 2008, f***ing expensive.
This is the problem a number of people have with many of the long-term predictions of the IPCC model: it assumes the oil supply will just keep coming, and increasing as quickly as it is now. That's just ridiculous.
The consensus seems to be that peak oil started in 2005, and we've just managed to stave off the downward curve with some dirty tricks and just devoting a larger percent of the oil we extract to extracting more of it.
Well, I didn't make up the term. It's proudly worn by the left-libertarians themselves.
Scepticism about IP and proponents of a collectivistic culture as in public domain is traditional left-wing.
Anti-IP libertarians think exactly the opposite is true, of course: IP is a denial of individual freedom to peaceably use information one possesses, traditionally justified by its utility to society as a whole. So, collectivistic.
There is a large degree of conspiracists, which is pretty common for both sides of the extremes in the traditional political spectrum.
I suppose you've never encountered libertarian socialists, then? :-)
Anyway, left-wing libertarians comprise the field from Tuckerite free-market socialists to capitalists who are anti-big-business and pro-equality on social issues. Good examples are Kevin Carson and Roderick T. Long. Every one I'm aware of is vehemently anti-IP, anti-surveillance, pro-equality for gays and minorities, and they all think the Republicans are complete hypocrites for slamming Democrats about "big government."
This is the "travel brochure" version of how science works. Start looking deeper (e.g. Kuhn, Lakatos, Feyerabend) and you'll see that it has many exceptions.
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That's an awful lot to read into what the last poster said.
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It was supposed to read: "Mike Masnick hates it when copyright is enforced... especially copyrights that don't exist."
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Increased heat causing more extreme weather is chaos theory in action: the more energetic the system, generally the more exaggerated the reaction to events both within the system and from outside. A prime example is the different states of matter: drop a solid object and it generally keeps its shape, drop a liquid and it sloshes about. Wind is the closest equivalent with respect to gases, I think.
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Weather is actually the paradigmatic example of a chaotic system in the sense here. Chaos theory began when a meteorologist truncated a few digits in initial conditions of a weather simulation and got completely different results than if he'd left the digits in. What was discovered was that weather is extremely sensitive to relatively small disturbances.
Increase in average temperature means and increase in the thermal energy in the atmosphere and thus an increase in sensitivity to disturbance. So the term is appropriate.
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Whether that's what the paper said or not, that has certainly been my experience.
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This is the problem a number of people have with many of the long-term predictions of the IPCC model: it assumes the oil supply will just keep coming, and increasing as quickly as it is now. That's just ridiculous.
The consensus seems to be that peak oil started in 2005, and we've just managed to stave off the downward curve with some dirty tricks and just devoting a larger percent of the oil we extract to extracting more of it.
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Scepticism about IP and proponents of a collectivistic culture as in public domain is traditional left-wing.
Anti-IP libertarians think exactly the opposite is true, of course: IP is a denial of individual freedom to peaceably use information one possesses, traditionally justified by its utility to society as a whole. So, collectivistic.
There is a large degree of conspiracists, which is pretty common for both sides of the extremes in the traditional political spectrum.
True that.
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Anyway, left-wing libertarians comprise the field from Tuckerite free-market socialists to capitalists who are anti-big-business and pro-equality on social issues. Good examples are Kevin Carson and Roderick T. Long. Every one I'm aware of is vehemently anti-IP, anti-surveillance, pro-equality for gays and minorities, and they all think the Republicans are complete hypocrites for slamming Democrats about "big government."
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In my experience, it's actually left-wing libertarians who are most likely to go along with the opinions TechDirt regularly espouses.
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