It's not really cognitive dissonance or even hypocrisy it's a misunderstanding of the underlying thought process and motivations. Trump doesn't have anything against section 230, he just thought it would be useful to say so at the time. His supporters don't have anything against 230.
Imagine you believe for some unknown but unshakable reason that life is a 0 sum game and you have two choices politically, every decision in politics is a tool to be used to take advantage of your neighbor or something they will use to take advantage of you. It's not about whether section 230 is good or bad overall. It depends on your personal context at the time, if it would be great for you but someone is donating money to help your side win if you say it's bad, then it's bad for you. You aren't pretending it's bad for you, you believe it's bad for you because it makes your side lose those donations..
It's not about whether white supremacists "have a point" or "are really fine people", if they are helping you rob someone they are acceptable, if they are helping someone rob you they are not and those are the only choices
Re: Re: Re: DRM isn't useless even if it gets cracked...
There is no supply problem for the crack, it's infinitely reproducible. How widespread the availability is just depends on how much people care or want it. Judging from every previous crack any 10 year should have no problem finding it. Sifting through a flood of material to find what you want on the internet is not really much of an issue
Incorrect. The DRM won't do it's job nicely for those 9.9 million instances, since it's job only applies to the 0.1 million instances in your scenario.
The DRM's only purpose is to prevent people who want to pirate from doing so, once it is cracked, it no longer helps with that since when 1 person cracks it, they publish the crack and anyone who wants to pirate can easily do so afterward. Those who don't want to pirate won't use the crack, but the DRM has no job to do for them.
Believe was trying to say there is all sorts of evidence, but we haven't seen it because of the huge conspiracy from those in charge covering it all up flawlessly. And republicans have never been in charge. You know cuz of the pres having no power in the U.S. and the deep state alien puppetmasters being democrat who really control everything and whatnot..
They are using it as a euphemism for Slavers freedom. They don't care being free to speak since no one is preventing that or hindering it in any way whatsoever. What they want is to be "free" to force someone else to do all the work of carrying their speech to the far corners of the earth for them.
"Parler has held itself up to be the last bastion of the First Amendment and a protector of those unfairly persecuted by left-wing tech companies"
Didn't they drop that pretense like a hot potato with the whole feces selfies in the comment section thing? Sure even the first amendment doesn't protect insurrecting violence but parler isn't pretending to apply that standard to their moderation as if they were government anymore anyway?
How does it seem like a stretch? It's practically textbook. As mentioned many times in the article, he isn't selling surveying services. He is selling pictures of the land from the sky.. If that can take the place of surveying services they obviously aren't worth as much as they think they are.
Why should he worry about Streisand or drawing attention since he clearly isn't doing anything wrong?
Garbage is probably fine as long as it fits into the designated legal and P.R. bins.. The usual cheap porn games are incredibly formulaic and should be pretty simple to validate. Then you have the AAA titles, who should have their own legal departments and can validate things themselves.
If you have a small company that could vanish at the first sign of trouble, and the game doesn't fall into established buckets, then I think it's reasonable to think you have more potential for blowback that comes to steam and valve itself.
Steam can do that work for the developer and tell them what exactly they think would be acceptable, they could just put it up without validating it well and risk the blowback comes to them or they can just reject it
But it's not just some private entity dependent on their credibility, The government decides who gets to be recognized as valid accrediting agencies. I don't see how it can be argued that you are granting accreditation to a bogus school anymore.. I would say at that point you are officially recognizing that school as legitimate and you just have terrible standards for what makes a legitimate school in your country
But not only authentic looking, it's legitimately authentic in this case. That's where they lose me. You can't trick someone into trespassing on your property by inviting them inside.
Wasn't the authority to decide which schools meet the requirements for that Visa delegated to the accreditation agency? If they say it's a legitimate school it is right? They do a bad job making that decision doesn't take away their authority to make it
Or is it that the accreditation somehow has nothing to do with whether a school meets the requirements for H-1B visa?
I'm missing the punchline where the gov't gets to pull the rug out and reveal it was all a ruse.. where's the ruse in having people signing up for a legitimately accredited institution? Haha, it should never have been accredited because it doesn't meet the requirements? But the students didn't accredit it..
Sounds to me like someone's boss found out they were spending time helping this dev review their game and find all the areas that were liabilities or otherwise unacceptable and told them to do something better with their time and just tell him no.
Valve is in a tough spot here.. How much money do they waste on the effort of defining exactly what makes them think the game is hot garbage cheap pornography and not a real game and will just make steam look bad with no upside?
"won't ship games with sexually explicit images of real people" doesn't pass the smell test, but it's probably nicer than the truth.. this is garbage and wasting our time
Yeah but denial of those facts don't irk me nearly as much as so called conservatives turning communist and wanting to expropriate everything just because liberals can build things they can't and aren't sharing enough
If it's in your hard earned work you are deciding what to do with and you are okay with it, sure, why not. If you don't like it you can feel free to kick them off the service you poured your own blood sweat and tears into building.
Re: Re: Re: You're all reasonable, right? AND DIDN'T BELIEVE HER
It's not because she was taken seriously, it because she was intentionally reaffirming existing obsessions. It's not that she was credible or convincing it's that she was preaching to the choir. No one influenced by what she said gave a shit if what she said was true or not, they aren't interested in truth they just think it helps them "win" if they agree
"Because once we head down the regulatory route, we're going to reach a point in which the government is, in some form, determining what is okay and what is not okay online"
Once you go down the regulatory route, you start at that point. It's just degree that you want the government to tell you what is and isn't okay on line that gets decided in the details. I suppose and how much lipstick they put on the pig.. They could do something like use private companies as proxies and provide incentives and disincentives so they control speech how the government wants, but it's still going to be a pig underneath
"unsurprising and belated efforts to mimic products and services that already exist"
Hey now, nothing wrong with that.. The problem comes because knowing telecoms their definition of competition is to get subsidies from the government when they do terribly and otherwise to buy legislation to gift the market to them
Re: You're all reasonable, right? AND DIDN'T BELIEVE HER!
But thats the funny part.. She is arguing that people who say she is full of shit up to her eyebrows are completely right, she shouldn't be taken seriously and basically anyone who believes what she says is a moron
I am hopeful or idealistic that obfuscation is a just stopgap tool for moderation just as I see it for tech security and it eventually moderation policy will be solid enough that companies will be able to open about how they do it without worrying about the loopholes being so bad that they will be vastly exploited
On the post: Donald Trump's Website's Terms Of Service Rely On Section 230, And Promise To Remove Content That Violates Its Terms
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It's not really cognitive dissonance or even hypocrisy it's a misunderstanding of the underlying thought process and motivations. Trump doesn't have anything against section 230, he just thought it would be useful to say so at the time. His supporters don't have anything against 230.
Imagine you believe for some unknown but unshakable reason that life is a 0 sum game and you have two choices politically, every decision in politics is a tool to be used to take advantage of your neighbor or something they will use to take advantage of you. It's not about whether section 230 is good or bad overall. It depends on your personal context at the time, if it would be great for you but someone is donating money to help your side win if you say it's bad, then it's bad for you. You aren't pretending it's bad for you, you believe it's bad for you because it makes your side lose those donations..
It's not about whether white supremacists "have a point" or "are really fine people", if they are helping you rob someone they are acceptable, if they are helping someone rob you they are not and those are the only choices
On the post: Activision Forces Online Check DRM Into New Game, Which Gets Cracked In One Day
Re: Re: Re: DRM isn't useless even if it gets cracked...
There is no supply problem for the crack, it's infinitely reproducible. How widespread the availability is just depends on how much people care or want it. Judging from every previous crack any 10 year should have no problem finding it. Sifting through a flood of material to find what you want on the internet is not really much of an issue
On the post: Activision Forces Online Check DRM Into New Game, Which Gets Cracked In One Day
Re: DRM isn't useless even if it gets cracked...
Incorrect. The DRM won't do it's job nicely for those 9.9 million instances, since it's job only applies to the 0.1 million instances in your scenario.
The DRM's only purpose is to prevent people who want to pirate from doing so, once it is cracked, it no longer helps with that since when 1 person cracks it, they publish the crack and anyone who wants to pirate can easily do so afterward. Those who don't want to pirate won't use the crack, but the DRM has no job to do for them.
On the post: Congressional Panel On Internet And Disinformation... Includes Many Who Spread Disinformation Online
Re: Re: Re: Re:
Believe was trying to say there is all sorts of evidence, but we haven't seen it because of the huge conspiracy from those in charge covering it all up flawlessly. And republicans have never been in charge. You know cuz of the pres having no power in the U.S. and the deep state alien puppetmasters being democrat who really control everything and whatnot..
Sound about right?
On the post: Parler Forced To Explain The First Amendment To Its Users After They Complain About Parler Turning Over Info To The FBI
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They are using it as a euphemism for Slavers freedom. They don't care being free to speak since no one is preventing that or hindering it in any way whatsoever. What they want is to be "free" to force someone else to do all the work of carrying their speech to the far corners of the earth for them.
On the post: Parler Forced To Explain The First Amendment To Its Users After They Complain About Parler Turning Over Info To The FBI
"Parler has held itself up to be the last bastion of the First Amendment and a protector of those unfairly persecuted by left-wing tech companies"
Didn't they drop that pretense like a hot potato with the whole feces selfies in the comment section thing? Sure even the first amendment doesn't protect insurrecting violence but parler isn't pretending to apply that standard to their moderation as if they were government anymore anyway?
On the post: Drone Operator Sues North Carolina Over Its First Amendment-Violating Surveyor Licensing Laws
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How does it seem like a stretch? It's practically textbook. As mentioned many times in the article, he isn't selling surveying services. He is selling pictures of the land from the sky.. If that can take the place of surveying services they obviously aren't worth as much as they think they are.
Why should he worry about Streisand or drawing attention since he clearly isn't doing anything wrong?
On the post: 2 Years Later, Valve's Hands Off Approach To Adult Games Is Still Confusing, Still Very Much Not Hands Off
Re: Re: Re: Re:
Garbage is probably fine as long as it fits into the designated legal and P.R. bins.. The usual cheap porn games are incredibly formulaic and should be pretty simple to validate. Then you have the AAA titles, who should have their own legal departments and can validate things themselves.
If you have a small company that could vanish at the first sign of trouble, and the game doesn't fall into established buckets, then I think it's reasonable to think you have more potential for blowback that comes to steam and valve itself.
Steam can do that work for the developer and tell them what exactly they think would be acceptable, they could just put it up without validating it well and risk the blowback comes to them or they can just reject it
On the post: Biden Administration Says There's Nothing Wrong With ICE Setting Up A Fake College To Dupe Foreign Students Out Of Their Money, Residency
Re: Re:
But it's not just some private entity dependent on their credibility, The government decides who gets to be recognized as valid accrediting agencies. I don't see how it can be argued that you are granting accreditation to a bogus school anymore.. I would say at that point you are officially recognizing that school as legitimate and you just have terrible standards for what makes a legitimate school in your country
On the post: Biden Administration Says There's Nothing Wrong With ICE Setting Up A Fake College To Dupe Foreign Students Out Of Their Money, Residency
Re: Re: JeBaited
But not only authentic looking, it's legitimately authentic in this case. That's where they lose me. You can't trick someone into trespassing on your property by inviting them inside.
On the post: Biden Administration Says There's Nothing Wrong With ICE Setting Up A Fake College To Dupe Foreign Students Out Of Their Money, Residency
I don't get the "haha gotcha part"..
Wasn't the authority to decide which schools meet the requirements for that Visa delegated to the accreditation agency? If they say it's a legitimate school it is right? They do a bad job making that decision doesn't take away their authority to make it
Or is it that the accreditation somehow has nothing to do with whether a school meets the requirements for H-1B visa?
I'm missing the punchline where the gov't gets to pull the rug out and reveal it was all a ruse.. where's the ruse in having people signing up for a legitimately accredited institution? Haha, it should never have been accredited because it doesn't meet the requirements? But the students didn't accredit it..
On the post: Congressional Panel On Internet And Disinformation... Includes Many Who Spread Disinformation Online
Re: Re: Re:
"Republicans have never been in charge, democrats have always just set them up as puppets including Trump"
Ha ha ha, do you guys ever think before you talk?
On the post: 2 Years Later, Valve's Hands Off Approach To Adult Games Is Still Confusing, Still Very Much Not Hands Off
Re: Re:
Sounds to me like someone's boss found out they were spending time helping this dev review their game and find all the areas that were liabilities or otherwise unacceptable and told them to do something better with their time and just tell him no.
Valve is in a tough spot here.. How much money do they waste on the effort of defining exactly what makes them think the game is hot garbage cheap pornography and not a real game and will just make steam look bad with no upside?
"won't ship games with sexually explicit images of real people" doesn't pass the smell test, but it's probably nicer than the truth.. this is garbage and wasting our time
On the post: Congressional Panel On Internet And Disinformation... Includes Many Who Spread Disinformation Online
Re:
Yeah but denial of those facts don't irk me nearly as much as so called conservatives turning communist and wanting to expropriate everything just because liberals can build things they can't and aren't sharing enough
On the post: Congressional Panel On Internet And Disinformation... Includes Many Who Spread Disinformation Online
Re: I'll Allow It!
If it's in your hard earned work you are deciding what to do with and you are okay with it, sure, why not. If you don't like it you can feel free to kick them off the service you poured your own blood sweat and tears into building.
On the post: Sidney Powell Asks Court To Dismiss Defamation Lawsuit Because She Was Just Engaging In Heated Hyperbole... Even When She Was Filing Lawsuits
Re: Re: Re: You're all reasonable, right? AND DIDN'T BELIEVE HER
It's not because she was taken seriously, it because she was intentionally reaffirming existing obsessions. It's not that she was credible or convincing it's that she was preaching to the choir. No one influenced by what she said gave a shit if what she said was true or not, they aren't interested in truth they just think it helps them "win" if they agree
On the post: Congressional Panel On Internet And Disinformation... Includes Many Who Spread Disinformation Online
"Because once we head down the regulatory route, we're going to reach a point in which the government is, in some form, determining what is okay and what is not okay online"
Once you go down the regulatory route, you start at that point. It's just degree that you want the government to tell you what is and isn't okay on line that gets decided in the details. I suppose and how much lipstick they put on the pig.. They could do something like use private companies as proxies and provide incentives and disincentives so they control speech how the government wants, but it's still going to be a pig underneath
On the post: Verizon Again Doubles Down On Yahoo After 6 Years Of Failure
"unsurprising and belated efforts to mimic products and services that already exist"
Hey now, nothing wrong with that.. The problem comes because knowing telecoms their definition of competition is to get subsidies from the government when they do terribly and otherwise to buy legislation to gift the market to them
On the post: Sidney Powell Asks Court To Dismiss Defamation Lawsuit Because She Was Just Engaging In Heated Hyperbole... Even When She Was Filing Lawsuits
Re: You're all reasonable, right? AND DIDN'T BELIEVE HER!
But thats the funny part.. She is arguing that people who say she is full of shit up to her eyebrows are completely right, she shouldn't be taken seriously and basically anyone who believes what she says is a moron
On the post: Techdirt Podcast Episode 275: The State Of Trust & Safety
On transparency...
I am hopeful or idealistic that obfuscation is a just stopgap tool for moderation just as I see it for tech security and it eventually moderation policy will be solid enough that companies will be able to open about how they do it without worrying about the loopholes being so bad that they will be vastly exploited
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