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This HAS to scare the hell out of record labels. Even if not everyone can pull it off, it's at least going to make a A LOT more artists consider doing things a different way (sans label). Plus they will get to control artistic direction, which is always nice.
I would take amazon/kickstarter taking 5% of an artists revenue as opposed to a label taking 90% of it any day.
You shouldn't deserve a job tomorrow just because you've had it for the last 10 years. If you aren't worth what your company is paying you, they will let you go.
Well, the music industry is letting the labels go. "Distribution channels" exist without needing to pay a premium. If the new model cannibalizes the old, it's only the labels fault for not getting on board sooner.
She could absolutely do it. Lets make it $500,000 just for kicks. Buys a REAL NICE house.
Now lets assume these people paying her are her biggest fans. What do you think happens to her fan base when she doesn't come through with any of her promises.
The result seems pretty obvious, so I won't continue to spoon feed it to you.
It's pretty hard to raise money without credentials. Doing so requires transparency and communication. Most kickstarter funders realize there is no legal obligation for the person they are funding to come through with a product/service.
And it's not even illegal. If you think you can make some easy money tricking people into paying you on Kickstarter, I would LOVE to see you try.
Hollywood blows tons of money on their blockbuster-formula movies. Granted, I enjoy a lot of these movies, but I've watched a number of independently developed movies that have exceptional special effects / CGI with budgets of less than a million bucks.
And who says we'll need actors in the future? In general, 90% of the time directors hate working with actors. With advances in graphics and human CGI models, who knows how long before human actors are fighting for their jobs?
You have no imagination, and seemingly no ability to accept paradigm shifts in the future.
Do you even listen to hip hop? Almost all art is derivative, and in the case of music samples there's a very good argument that the creation is a NEW piece of art. We are specifically talking about whether or not sampling should be considered fair use.
Court decisions haven't gone that way in the past, but it will change eventually.
I think his point was that sampling should be fair use, not that 50-cent had a great defense going for this case (pretty sure he implied the opposite, which is in agreement to what you said).
So it looks like you just didn't read the article.
DRM is such a fundamentally stupid idea. The "casual infringement" it's designed to stop is really just sharing between your own platforms and your friends. It doesn't stop the guys torrenting it or sharing non-drm versions on undernet servers via MIRC.
As a side-effect, it makes your product much less valuable.
All this would be fine if the ISPs were building infrastructure with their own money. They build their networks through subsidies and then charge monopolistic rates.
You can say that there are a couple Broadband providers so it's not a true monopoly but in practice they divide communities / cities in such ways that they do not have to compete.
Pretty sure the 4.50$ special would have 0 impact on his sales. After all, the people that wouldn't pay 50 cents more for the special from Louis are the same people that would easily pirate it for free, because either a) they can't afford it, b) the "risk" at 5$ is too high, c) they don't want to support the artist.
Also, looking back at the privacy concerns for how they conducted these contests, I'm really surprised Netflix didn't just keep the data themselves.
I believe when you are coming up with a machine learning algorithm, it is considered bad practice to personally look at the data set you are given. You really only need to know the format and size of the data.
If it was a more collaborative effort, they could have worked with the research teams and basically run the algorithms themselves, giving results back to the teams. This way, the data would never leave Netflix, and there would be no privacy issues.
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You shouldn't deserve a job tomorrow just because you've had it for the last 10 years. If you aren't worth what your company is paying you, they will let you go.
Well, the music industry is letting the labels go. "Distribution channels" exist without needing to pay a premium. If the new model cannibalizes the old, it's only the labels fault for not getting on board sooner.
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Now lets assume these people paying her are her biggest fans. What do you think happens to her fan base when she doesn't come through with any of her promises.
The result seems pretty obvious, so I won't continue to spoon feed it to you.
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That said, you sir are an idiot.
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And it's not even illegal. If you think you can make some easy money tricking people into paying you on Kickstarter, I would LOVE to see you try.
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See, I can make up baseless hypothetical situations too.
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And who says we'll need actors in the future? In general, 90% of the time directors hate working with actors. With advances in graphics and human CGI models, who knows how long before human actors are fighting for their jobs?
You have no imagination, and seemingly no ability to accept paradigm shifts in the future.
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Court decisions haven't gone that way in the past, but it will change eventually.
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So it looks like you just didn't read the article.
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Re: Humans!
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As a side-effect, it makes your product much less valuable.
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Most of your costs are sunk costs. You need to look at the marginal cost.
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You can say that there are a couple Broadband providers so it's not a true monopoly but in practice they divide communities / cities in such ways that they do not have to compete.
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I believe when you are coming up with a machine learning algorithm, it is considered bad practice to personally look at the data set you are given. You really only need to know the format and size of the data.
If it was a more collaborative effort, they could have worked with the research teams and basically run the algorithms themselves, giving results back to the teams. This way, the data would never leave Netflix, and there would be no privacy issues.
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