That's nonsense because it completely ignores the fact that restraint themes are not given government monopolies.
i happen to own a chain of restraint themed restaurants in the SFO area known as Bondage Burger. your post infringes on our government granted monopoly on restraint themed restaurants.
our general counsel (who also doubles as chief dominatrix) will be sending you a cease and desist letter shortly.
This entire discussion will become a moot point within 2-3 months when this technology group (sorry I don't want to spoil the release) comes out with a software and hardware product that allows consumers to watch first run movies from home the night they come out.
wow, sounds great, i found a great system that let's me see movies *before* they are in the theaters, it's called bit torrent.
but that's not all all, you'll also get dvd releases 6 weeks ahead of retail absolutely free!
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I'm asking where there is room in your plan for folks that want to simply focus on music.
if they don't want to do it themselves, they can partner with/hire someone to do it for them. this talked about a lot on techdirt. it's called "the fifth beatle".
Which is it then labels help or labels just take advantage?
i agree mike. you need to confine this discussion to single lines of sensationalist soundbite/bumper sticker friendly rhetoric. stop making the issue so complex. pick a side, we're at war!
What you are saying is that one of the main products that a musician produces has little to no value, it should be given away. I disagree, there is some non-zero value in recorded music, its just a whole lot less than .99/track or 1.30/track. The music is the main product and it has value.
price and value are two totally different things. value is determined by the customer, price is determined by the market.
something can be extremely valuable with a price that is zero, especially when that product is not scarce: like air.
digital media is not scarce. however valuable it may be, it can easily be obtained for free.
In all these cases, the recorded music essentially acts as the advertising for the artist and other scarce things. The recording of music in itself stops being the main job, and it becomes focused back on live performance, commission work, patronage and unique value that can only be achieved through physical means as part of a recorded music bundle as it were.
but my music is special. it's so special that people need to pay money to hear it. it's not a commercial.
saying that my music is an advertisement for t-shirts is lumping it into the same category as a jingle for laundry detergent. that hurts my feelings :(
Last time I checked ripping a DVD for personal use does not send you to jail.
you probably won't go to jail for it, but circumventing a copy protection mechanism is still illegal. that's the point. even if you bought the DVD legally and ripped for strictly personal use, and even tough there is most likely no way you will ever get caught, you are still breaking the law.
PS- When I type "you" in this little rant, I don't mean you personally, I mean "you" in the more general sense. :)
oh, i'm not a musician. my point should have been clearer. i meant that when a musician trots out the "i am a musician" line, my response has always "if you want my money..." the point is that creators and fans should not be arguing with each other. they should unite against the middlemen.
The point of highlighting why it's a bad idea isn't that we resent those who did something creative
i think that the resentment isn't directed at content creators, but at the business people who surround creators.
i my self have fallen for the "i'm a musician and you don't know what being a musician is like" line of thinking. the counter point make is pretty much always, "i'm the consumer, i'm the one with the money. if you want it sell something i want to buy." that's not really a constructive conversation.
the resentment content creators have over the perceived greed of their fans, and the resentment fans have over the perceived greed of content creators should be directed at the weasels in the middle, the ones who screw artists over, treat customers like criminals, and bribe politicians to pass laws that threaten our civil liberties.
techies tend to erroneously think that merit magically wins over marketing. this is why companies which donate $10m will then spend $90m advertising the fact that they donated $10m.
that may be, but in the world of consumer technology, most consumers will take the recommendation of a techie over the claims in a commercial. techies tend to recommend stuff they don't have to provide support for, i.e. unreliable services.
The other issue, which I don't see mentioned, is the irrational fear that someone, somewhere, might cut and paste content for other people to see. This fear is relieved on the iPad
thank god it's impossible to read the screen and type it into another device or society as we know it would crumble to dust.
I believe what they did is wrong but that type of software can be very usefull if a laptop is stolen.
i think it was all just a misunderstanding. the students were mistakenly informed that they were being given laptops, when in actuality they were being issued telescreens. clearly, if the children and their families knew they were getting telescreens then they would know that big brother can watch you.
it's a simple misunderstanding is all. all of the literature for the telescreen program has been updated to reflect the nature of the devices and school system has apologized for any inconvenience.
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TV with a BUY! button that is capable of watching you.
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no they can't.
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i happen to own a chain of restraint themed restaurants in the SFO area known as Bondage Burger. your post infringes on our government granted monopoly on restraint themed restaurants.
our general counsel (who also doubles as chief dominatrix) will be sending you a cease and desist letter shortly.
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wow, sounds great, i found a great system that let's me see movies *before* they are in the theaters, it's called bit torrent.
but that's not all all, you'll also get dvd releases 6 weeks ahead of retail absolutely free!
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if they don't want to do it themselves, they can partner with/hire someone to do it for them. this talked about a lot on techdirt. it's called "the fifth beatle".
Which is it then labels help or labels just take advantage?
i agree mike. you need to confine this discussion to single lines of sensationalist soundbite/bumper sticker friendly rhetoric. stop making the issue so complex. pick a side, we're at war!
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price and value are two totally different things. value is determined by the customer, price is determined by the market.
something can be extremely valuable with a price that is zero, especially when that product is not scarce: like air.
digital media is not scarce. however valuable it may be, it can easily be obtained for free.
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but my music is special. it's so special that people need to pay money to hear it. it's not a commercial.
saying that my music is an advertisement for t-shirts is lumping it into the same category as a jingle for laundry detergent. that hurts my feelings :(
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uh, because amazon has more money that redhat? i thought that was fairly obvious.
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i'm as surprised as you are. i though for sure this story was going end with a tasing.
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you probably won't go to jail for it, but circumventing a copy protection mechanism is still illegal. that's the point. even if you bought the DVD legally and ripped for strictly personal use, and even tough there is most likely no way you will ever get caught, you are still breaking the law.
that's why the DMCA is such a stupid law.
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oh, i'm not a musician. my point should have been clearer. i meant that when a musician trots out the "i am a musician" line, my response has always "if you want my money..." the point is that creators and fans should not be arguing with each other. they should unite against the middlemen.
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hate the middlemen
i think that the resentment isn't directed at content creators, but at the business people who surround creators.
i my self have fallen for the "i'm a musician and you don't know what being a musician is like" line of thinking. the counter point make is pretty much always, "i'm the consumer, i'm the one with the money. if you want it sell something i want to buy." that's not really a constructive conversation.
the resentment content creators have over the perceived greed of their fans, and the resentment fans have over the perceived greed of content creators should be directed at the weasels in the middle, the ones who screw artists over, treat customers like criminals, and bribe politicians to pass laws that threaten our civil liberties.
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that may be, but in the world of consumer technology, most consumers will take the recommendation of a techie over the claims in a commercial. techies tend to recommend stuff they don't have to provide support for, i.e. unreliable services.
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touché!
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thank god it's impossible to read the screen and type it into another device or society as we know it would crumble to dust.
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me too! mine's a dolphin!
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i think it was all just a misunderstanding. the students were mistakenly informed that they were being given laptops, when in actuality they were being issued telescreens. clearly, if the children and their families knew they were getting telescreens then they would know that big brother can watch you.
it's a simple misunderstanding is all. all of the literature for the telescreen program has been updated to reflect the nature of the devices and school system has apologized for any inconvenience.
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