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... given the attempt to pass law here (at the US's behest, if memory serves) which would have resulted in teachers etc going on strike rating as terrorism...
i'm not sure 'soon' is quite the right word.
(it failed when it was pointed out how insane that was... and the public were made aware of that and objected.the result was massively toned down legislation that, from memory, would allow action to be taken in the event of Actual Terrorism, and otherwise do very little.)
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because that was the entire point?
he set it up for the purpose, got the Group, through non-official means, to encourage other people to link to it (and make them aware that he would be filing the relevant documents) possibly has the group coming back and telling him who/where to file against, too.
it's a bit of a legal song and dance, but it works, and the law it's dealing with is at least as nonsensical.
knowing the usual way of things the US government will find a way to politely and publicly tell him to fuck off and the NZ government will give him a few hundred thousand plus expenses or something for the trouble of the process itself and absolutely nothing will be done for Anyone based on the insanity that was the treatment of megaupload itself.
(save, perhaps, if public opinion is loud enough, NZ's government may amend it's law to prevent this nonsense process happening here again... or to make it easier to sneak such things under the public radar...)
if he loses it could easily be the nail in the coffin for the current government (unfortunately, probably not enough to finally kill off the disaster that is the National party so the Conservative Party (actually conservative rather than corporatist, and nationalist rather than globalist) can pick up most of the anti-left votes. then we just need to kill off Labour in favour of the Greens, NZ first, and various other smaller entities and we'll be golden for a generation or two. added bonus: that would be the three parties with clue one how to run an economy, even if that is purely incidental to their other goals.)
might have something to do with 3news having their own website where the video is available to NZ users (and possibly others).
they want your eyeballs for advertising money, i guess.
unless that video is from their site? i can't really tell, but i do know they're set up to be a right pain in the arse to get at the video any way other than via their page (even any attempts to download it with other software will tend to grab the ad at the begining and not the article, for example.)
that's the general public sentiment in NZ on such issues also.
basically the US government/corporations need to paint the guy black enough to make him look Worse than them in the public eye to win in that arena here.
they have a bit of an advantage in that the guy only got into the country due to our current government's incredably dubious 'cash for residency' set up (incidently, Kim . com is a resident, not a citizen, of NZ last i checked.) if he'd simply been arrested normally, and they'd dealt with it Properly and By the Book without this corrupt rubbish such as what happend with Megaupload and the files there on, they'd have that one sewn up.
their inability to act in a legal, logical, reasonable, non-corrupt manner has probably destroyed that advantage though.
... you know, i think treason during war time is the only thing NZ still has a death penalty for? (if i remember rightly. i'm not a lawyer, so i may not.) ... too bad they're not Kiwis... and we're not at war. oh well.
the thing here is, a lot of the NZ public did NOT know this stuff.
Campbell Live (the program this interview was given on) is on immediately after the news. it probably gets, oh, rough estimate, half (maybe more these days) of prime time viewers in this country watching it.
most of them are NOT the sort to keep track of these things.
they will, however, generally take exception to injustice and/or foreign abuse of our legal systems etc.
(on another note, it amuses me that nationalism has become left wing ideology here. heh. only in as much as the rightist parties Currently capable of attaining seats in government are globalist/corporatist types, but still.)
should be noted however, that the program and channel this are on are owned by american interests, so it's sort of surprising it was them, and not TV1's equivilant who got it. (mind you, TV1 is government owned. Currently that's the government that allowed/facilitated this mess in the first place. perhaps it would have gone that way under a Labour etc. government. mind you, it'd probably have been a lot less dramatic under a Labour government...)
... usually they try to tell you you either agree to it or must return the product to the place of purchase (which, here, thanks to laws pushed by the same industry who use said EULAs, you can't do, save for a replacement copy of the exact same product if yours is somehow physically defective (something is wrong with the disk). )
actually, that one is a valid and viable point. the fact is there have been people who do things like that.
hell, it's a proveable Fact that many corporations would do it quite happily, were it not for the fact that the employee tasked with either doing or aranging it cannot (yet) get out of personally paying the penalty for murder/conspiricy to commit murder (or whatever), where as dodgy accounting practices somehow get pinned on the corporations as a whole rather than the individual (unless the individual was stealing from the corporation, of course) and the only punishment a corporation can be given is a fine, which is just another number in the 'expenses' column.
"But today it is possible even for the poorest people in the world. " while i agree with most of your statement, this bit makes me wonder what you're smoking, and where i can get some.
also, what does that even Stand for? i've never figured it out.
(on a role play focused forum i frequent it stands for 'secret in character', that is, from a narrative and 'making the game run properly' stand point the reader/player needs to know it, but from a game stand point none of the other Characters are aware of it. ... somehow i don't think that's what it's being used for here (that's usually also in all caps) :D)
or at least, there are laws which prevent the creation of systems that would make it viable to do so (in NZ, there is no equivalent of the social security number. if you have the same number in two different entity's systems (including government departments) it's by coincidence. or it better be, or they're breaking some laws.
meaning the only common identifier is your Name.
you create a new account for anything significant they'll want multiple forms of identification proving you are who you say you are, generally speaking at least one of which must contain your photo, though they'll usually accept a birth certificate and a couple of extra different ID documents instead, depending.
so, yeah, if you're getting junk mail it's either regular circulars or it's because you've signed up for something. the real problem is that once you sign up for mail order catalogs or whatever, the companies seem willfully incompetent when it comes to taking you OFF their lists. still, you don't get on there without your own input.
makes identity theft trickier too. (that's Actual identity theft, not the banks trying to weasel out of their responsibility to deal with bank robberies). it is possibly easier to convince One system that you're someone else.... but doing so doesn't unlock all the others for you as well. the person who's identity you're taking will probably notice before you're done.
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Re: Re: Wow, framing unsuspecting people as a political act
i'm not sure 'soon' is quite the right word.
(it failed when it was pointed out how insane that was... and the public were made aware of that and objected.the result was massively toned down legislation that, from memory, would allow action to be taken in the event of Actual Terrorism, and otherwise do very little.)
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he set it up for the purpose, got the Group, through non-official means, to encourage other people to link to it (and make them aware that he would be filing the relevant documents) possibly has the group coming back and telling him who/where to file against, too.
it's a bit of a legal song and dance, but it works, and the law it's dealing with is at least as nonsensical.
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(save, perhaps, if public opinion is loud enough, NZ's government may amend it's law to prevent this nonsense process happening here again... or to make it easier to sneak such things under the public radar...)
if he loses it could easily be the nail in the coffin for the current government (unfortunately, probably not enough to finally kill off the disaster that is the National party so the Conservative Party (actually conservative rather than corporatist, and nationalist rather than globalist) can pick up most of the anti-left votes. then we just need to kill off Labour in favour of the Greens, NZ first, and various other smaller entities and we'll be golden for a generation or two. added bonus: that would be the three parties with clue one how to run an economy, even if that is purely incidental to their other goals.)
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they want your eyeballs for advertising money, i guess.
unless that video is from their site? i can't really tell, but i do know they're set up to be a right pain in the arse to get at the video any way other than via their page (even any attempts to download it with other software will tend to grab the ad at the begining and not the article, for example.)
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basically the US government/corporations need to paint the guy black enough to make him look Worse than them in the public eye to win in that arena here.
they have a bit of an advantage in that the guy only got into the country due to our current government's incredably dubious 'cash for residency' set up (incidently, Kim . com is a resident, not a citizen, of NZ last i checked.) if he'd simply been arrested normally, and they'd dealt with it Properly and By the Book without this corrupt rubbish such as what happend with Megaupload and the files there on, they'd have that one sewn up.
their inability to act in a legal, logical, reasonable, non-corrupt manner has probably destroyed that advantage though.
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Campbell Live (the program this interview was given on) is on immediately after the news. it probably gets, oh, rough estimate, half (maybe more these days) of prime time viewers in this country watching it.
most of them are NOT the sort to keep track of these things.
they will, however, generally take exception to injustice and/or foreign abuse of our legal systems etc.
(on another note, it amuses me that nationalism has become left wing ideology here. heh. only in as much as the rightist parties Currently capable of attaining seats in government are globalist/corporatist types, but still.)
should be noted however, that the program and channel this are on are owned by american interests, so it's sort of surprising it was them, and not TV1's equivilant who got it. (mind you, TV1 is government owned. Currently that's the government that allowed/facilitated this mess in the first place. perhaps it would have gone that way under a Labour etc. government. mind you, it'd probably have been a lot less dramatic under a Labour government...)
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not quite sure though.
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hell, it's a proveable Fact that many corporations would do it quite happily, were it not for the fact that the employee tasked with either doing or aranging it cannot (yet) get out of personally paying the penalty for murder/conspiricy to commit murder (or whatever), where as dodgy accounting practices somehow get pinned on the corporations as a whole rather than the individual (unless the individual was stealing from the corporation, of course) and the only punishment a corporation can be given is a fine, which is just another number in the 'expenses' column.
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i fail to see what Else you could call Hollywood accounting and not be blatantly dissembling (i believe I'm using that word correctly?)
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(on a role play focused forum i frequent it stands for 'secret in character', that is, from a narrative and 'making the game run properly' stand point the reader/player needs to know it, but from a game stand point none of the other Characters are aware of it. ... somehow i don't think that's what it's being used for here (that's usually also in all caps) :D)
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i love how doing that is actually illegal here.
or at least, there are laws which prevent the creation of systems that would make it viable to do so (in NZ, there is no equivalent of the social security number. if you have the same number in two different entity's systems (including government departments) it's by coincidence. or it better be, or they're breaking some laws.
meaning the only common identifier is your Name.
you create a new account for anything significant they'll want multiple forms of identification proving you are who you say you are, generally speaking at least one of which must contain your photo, though they'll usually accept a birth certificate and a couple of extra different ID documents instead, depending.
so, yeah, if you're getting junk mail it's either regular circulars or it's because you've signed up for something. the real problem is that once you sign up for mail order catalogs or whatever, the companies seem willfully incompetent when it comes to taking you OFF their lists. still, you don't get on there without your own input.
makes identity theft trickier too. (that's Actual identity theft, not the banks trying to weasel out of their responsibility to deal with bank robberies). it is possibly easier to convince One system that you're someone else.... but doing so doesn't unlock all the others for you as well. the person who's identity you're taking will probably notice before you're done.
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