Think about the trolls. If the RIAA and the MPAA go bankrupt, where else can they get money from, if they can't troll sites like Techdirt! THINK ABOUT THE TROLLS!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Yay for "Maria Pallante, the Register of Copyrights"!
You are the only one who keeps claiming that this is about keeping piracy alive.
Meanwhile, in the real world, Mike (and many others here) have stated that this isn't about piracy in the first place, but the first amendment issues that this law DOES have. No matter what your bought-and-paid-for lawyer said.
What part of Twitter is infringing? What part of Google is infringing? What part of Facebook is infringing? Do you have proof that they make money solely on infringing other people's copyright?
Yes, it's about greed, but not on the part of the web2.0 companies, but on the part of the media conglomerates that are desperately trying to get back into the golden 70s and 80s. When money was falling from the skies.
Yes, because the poor copyright holders are running scared of a few pirates, that they are running to their congress mommas. And there they are even so scared of opposition that they stack the discussion against those who oppose (like 99% of the US population).
If these media companies can't find a way to make money without resorting to rhetoric like 'OMG PIRATES! KILL THEM! KILL THEM WITH FIRE!', then their business model is bad and they need to adapt and find a new one.
The tech companies don't make money off infringing on works. And that's also not what most tech companies are angry about.
The danger in SOPA is that any tech company can be accused of infringing, and then it's off the air for that tech company. And there is prior art that suggests that the MPAA and the RIAA will do that. (Re: the "rogue sites" list from the RIAA that contained websites that promoted the RIAA's artists, without distributing the music)
And still pay for the privilege of doing that. You are willfully ignoring the actions of YOUR licensing group in Germany called GEMA. Yes, those big buddies from Germany of your masters.
When I buy blank DVDs, CDs, SD-cards, CF-cards, I pay a copyright tax. Even though NOTHING I put on those discs will contain copyright that isn't my own.
Thankfully they aren't allowed to introduce a copyright tax on mp3-players, harddrives and pcs. (which they were planning to do at some point)
If YOU want to make money, make products that people want to buy. Give us an offer we can't refuse. That sort of thing.
And not in the way of: "Nice internet you got there, would be a real shame if something were to happen to it. Now pay up or we'll torch the place."
But more in the way of: "Here, have some quality content."
The laws don't force us to do anything BUT PAY.
If we don't want copyright in our life, we'd have to kill ourselves, as EVERYTHING that's published, whether a blog post, a song, anything, is automatically copyrighted, due to the stupidity of your masters.
But you will never acknowledge that, as you love to live in La-la-land. As in: "La-la-la-la-la! I can't hear you!"
The world has changed since the golden 70s and 80s. But that too is something you don't want to see. You want the world to change back to the time where money flowed from the heavens.
Don't forget, most of the western world is in a deep recession, and your industry is barely noticing it.
Re: "This is indefensible." -- No, Luma Labs just isn't defending.
Oh indeed. It's not expensive, unless you count the legal costs.
You're just as clueless as ever out_of_the_blue.
This is a small company without a lot of resources to go full scale against the patent.
Should they have sent the USPTO a notice saying that there was prior art? Perhaps, but the USPTO should've done THEIR due-diligence and notice that there was prior art going back for over a century, and deny the patent claim.
But since it's being rubber stamped anyway, what's the point of registering for patents again?
Why don't you stop supplying your works?
Clearly it's disadvantageous for you, if you released your works to the general public, as "they only steal it."
So stop publishing, that way no-one can "steal" it.
Do away with your audience.
Don't organize venues, don't air your stuff on radio/tv/movie screens, don't publish your books.
Re: Re: Re: Re: SOPA isn't for parasites of "the wider internet industry"!
Except when, in the case of these hearings, that the view of the general public is being willfully ignored. Sure, the hearings might still be a sham, but it'd be nice if "We the People" would actually get a voice in them, instead of only the "yes-men".
YOU are taking away my freedoms without asking, and without my input.
YOU make the erroneous assumption that we take your work. We don't even know who you are, anonymous coward.
YOU make the erroneous assumption that a single download is a single lost sale.
(hint: most so-called "pirates" (or assholes in your view) are also the biggest group that pay for their media consumption. A lot of downloads either resulted because of a sale (ie, stuff that doesn't work because of DRM, where the pirated stuff offered a better product) or will result in a sale (ooh I really like this, I'll go out and buy the dvd to support the artist.))
YOU are shooting yourself in the foot with this bill, because it'll take away your wide variety of self-promotion options. After this bill, you will only have the gatekeepers' approved distribution method, and that won't come cheap.
On the post: Hackers, ACLU, Consumer Rights Groups, Human Rights Groups, Many More All Come Out Against SOPA
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On the post: A Look At The Testimony Given At Today's SOPA Lovefest Congressional Hearings... With A Surprise From MasterCard
Re: Re: Just a question
On the post: A Look At The Testimony Given At Today's SOPA Lovefest Congressional Hearings... With A Surprise From MasterCard
Re: Re: Re: Re: It's old fashioned, but...
What about the numerous false positives that got flagged as infringing by the media companies? Or are you going to deny it?
No, I know, you're going to ignore my reply to you.
On the post: A Look At The Testimony Given At Today's SOPA Lovefest Congressional Hearings... With A Surprise From MasterCard
Re: Re: Re: Re: Yay for "Maria Pallante, the Register of Copyrights"!
Meanwhile, in the real world, Mike (and many others here) have stated that this isn't about piracy in the first place, but the first amendment issues that this law DOES have. No matter what your bought-and-paid-for lawyer said.
On the post: A Look At The Testimony Given At Today's SOPA Lovefest Congressional Hearings... With A Surprise From MasterCard
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What part of Twitter is infringing? What part of Google is infringing? What part of Facebook is infringing? Do you have proof that they make money solely on infringing other people's copyright?
Yes, it's about greed, but not on the part of the web2.0 companies, but on the part of the media conglomerates that are desperately trying to get back into the golden 70s and 80s. When money was falling from the skies.
On the post: A Look At The Testimony Given At Today's SOPA Lovefest Congressional Hearings... With A Surprise From MasterCard
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On the post: A Look At The Testimony Given At Today's SOPA Lovefest Congressional Hearings... With A Surprise From MasterCard
Re: Just a question
On the post: A Look At The Testimony Given At Today's SOPA Lovefest Congressional Hearings... With A Surprise From MasterCard
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The tech companies don't make money off infringing on works. And that's also not what most tech companies are angry about.
The danger in SOPA is that any tech company can be accused of infringing, and then it's off the air for that tech company. And there is prior art that suggests that the MPAA and the RIAA will do that. (Re: the "rogue sites" list from the RIAA that contained websites that promoted the RIAA's artists, without distributing the music)
On the post: Want To See Peak Copyright? Here's What To Do
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When I buy blank DVDs, CDs, SD-cards, CF-cards, I pay a copyright tax. Even though NOTHING I put on those discs will contain copyright that isn't my own.
Thankfully they aren't allowed to introduce a copyright tax on mp3-players, harddrives and pcs. (which they were planning to do at some point)
If YOU want to make money, make products that people want to buy. Give us an offer we can't refuse. That sort of thing.
And not in the way of: "Nice internet you got there, would be a real shame if something were to happen to it. Now pay up or we'll torch the place."
But more in the way of: "Here, have some quality content."
The laws don't force us to do anything BUT PAY.
If we don't want copyright in our life, we'd have to kill ourselves, as EVERYTHING that's published, whether a blog post, a song, anything, is automatically copyrighted, due to the stupidity of your masters.
But you will never acknowledge that, as you love to live in La-la-land. As in: "La-la-la-la-la! I can't hear you!"
The world has changed since the golden 70s and 80s. But that too is something you don't want to see. You want the world to change back to the time where money flowed from the heavens.
Don't forget, most of the western world is in a deep recession, and your industry is barely noticing it.
On the post: Gamex Pulls The Welcome Mat Out From Under The Pirate Party
Re: Re: Re: we have standards
On the post: Luma Labs Discontinues Popular Product Line After Competitor Gets A Patent... Despite Prior Art Going Back Over A Century
Re: "This is indefensible." -- No, Luma Labs just isn't defending.
You're just as clueless as ever out_of_the_blue.
This is a small company without a lot of resources to go full scale against the patent.
Should they have sent the USPTO a notice saying that there was prior art? Perhaps, but the USPTO should've done THEIR due-diligence and notice that there was prior art going back for over a century, and deny the patent claim.
But since it's being rubber stamped anyway, what's the point of registering for patents again?
On the post: Attempts To Censor File Sharing Sites In The UK Demonstrate The Pointlessness Of SOPA's Blocks
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What the witch wanted was plenty clear.
But I am confused what the wardrobe wanted.
On the post: Attempts To Censor File Sharing Sites In The UK Demonstrate The Pointlessness Of SOPA's Blocks
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Or cross the street while the light is red?
Maybe Bubba should remind you why YOU should follow traffic law.
On the post: Attempts To Censor File Sharing Sites In The UK Demonstrate The Pointlessness Of SOPA's Blocks
Re: Re: Re: Re: Dear Copyright Maximalists
On the post: Want To See Peak Copyright? Here's What To Do
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On the post: Want To See Peak Copyright? Here's What To Do
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Clearly it's disadvantageous for you, if you released your works to the general public, as "they only steal it."
So stop publishing, that way no-one can "steal" it.
Do away with your audience.
Don't organize venues, don't air your stuff on radio/tv/movie screens, don't publish your books.
On the post: Gamex Pulls The Welcome Mat Out From Under The Pirate Party
Re: we have standards
What does the Pirate Party do that's so illegal?
On the post: House Judiciary Committee Refuses To Hear Wider Tech Industry Concerns About SOPA
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On the post: House Judiciary Committee Refuses To Hear Wider Tech Industry Concerns About SOPA
Re: Re: Re: Re: SOPA isn't for parasites of "the wider internet industry"!
On the post: House Judiciary Committee Refuses To Hear Wider Tech Industry Concerns About SOPA
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YOU make the erroneous assumption that we take your work. We don't even know who you are, anonymous coward.
YOU make the erroneous assumption that a single download is a single lost sale.
(hint: most so-called "pirates" (or assholes in your view) are also the biggest group that pay for their media consumption. A lot of downloads either resulted because of a sale (ie, stuff that doesn't work because of DRM, where the pirated stuff offered a better product) or will result in a sale (ooh I really like this, I'll go out and buy the dvd to support the artist.))
YOU are shooting yourself in the foot with this bill, because it'll take away your wide variety of self-promotion options. After this bill, you will only have the gatekeepers' approved distribution method, and that won't come cheap.
YOU make yourself look like a complete buffoon.
YOU are the asshole.
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