None is to be had.
IF you want competition, OPEN things up, NOT lock them down.
WE all know the old, beginnings from 2000 and the battles faught by allot of small groups to create things. And how many got SWATTED down, taken to court, COPIED another site and got taken away.
The Problem in the Real world is this hasnt happened to the Other corps. Forced competition, Get rid of contracts and handshakes, that Make each Corp Stay in their OWN corner. Non-compete Contracts are the Shame of Competition. We have more regs covering this crap in real sports and Olympics on TV, then we do in the real world.
What has stopped anyone from taking over the ATT/DSL area's in the USA? NO ONE WANTS TO BUILD IT, even after the gov. has PAID THEM to do it.
They are all bill collectors.
NOW, lets talk about the ones that are Supposed to be doing the work. Since the Main companies we can see ARNT. Why are we paying the ISP's money? When we could pay the companies that BUILD the infrastructure. After you give the money to the ISP, they just stick it in the pocket. They Arnt the builders.
Why are we fighting the Internals of the internet? the Ones that BUILT what is there?
How long did it take to build up the Cellphone system, even after we watched in on TV, on Hawaii 5-0. 1968? 30+ years. Who remembers ROAMING. Out of service areas? Tech has come along ways but it was the Building the system that took time. NOW we can have the Net build up fairly quickly, and Stomp on it? For doing what is Possible?
REALLY want to Adjust the net? GET the larger corps to QUIT fronting for other companies. Just cause it says Amazon or Walmart, dont mean you are getting it from there.
IF they keep messing around all we are going to have is a GIANT internet MALL.
Re: Telecommunications is an industry based on a lie
The infrastructure we have is Pre-1934 and then allow for updates in the 70's then 80's then the middle 1990's.
90% of it didnt really change allot.
PTLD, had a 6% coverage in town, in the 1990's then the internet hit hard, and they had to get it up to over 80%. took them about 8-12 months to wire up fiber to each of the relay stations. but does that cover everything? not really. Population growth sucks.
The interconnects are all the same as before the 1990's. A location where 1 system connects to another. The net isnt a NET, its a balls of strings, wrapped up into a mess of a ball and Tied knots all threw the ball. And a few loose strings still inside it.
The REAL updates to the infrastructure are based on What is broken. Nothing more. The Current group of ISP' owners are bill collectors, and not much else. If you arnt in a High pay district, they dont care much until someone gets a HOT poker out and Shoves them to get things done. But then they hire another group to do the work. ANd blame them if it aint done.
We might as well create a TON of jobs, and just get it all done and then sell it back or Sell access to the corps. Nothing in this nation was ever fully done by the corps, unless the gov. Backed it up with money or built it themselves.
Advertising: The FCC regulates and limits the ways in which companies can use telecommunications to contact consumers, including limiting automated calling systems (robocalls) and expectations from phone solicitors. The FCC teamed up with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to create the national Do-Not-Call list.
Accessibility: Through continued growth and regulation, the FCC also makes sure that telecommunications technologies are available to underserved populations, such as people with disabilities, rural communities, the poor, and small businesses.
" lawful content,"
In what country or USA state?
Bestiality is still legal in SOME states.
Spam isnt really illegal
Want to know whats illegal in the Muslim groups?? How about China? The Philippines?
HOW about whats LEGAL in Bangkok Thailand? in the red district?
What was that Problem the USA had problems with?>? OFF SHORE GAMBLING??
2
"lawful internet traffic"
I love most of this, as its NOT against the Internet corps, its mostly the Tier 1 and 2 sections of the internet, AND the ISP's.
For 1/2 of this see #1, Lawful?
the rest, is to DEFINE Access to the net. Min/max and WHAT the ISP's have to upgrade and KEEP accessible. AS well as how much they can charge.
After all of this, can the Internet Pass the buck to this person for all the Posting and DMCA running amok?
But its trying to find that Sub company of the Sub company.
Now lets ask how much of the Backbone in the USA has been updated.
No company in my life has ever given MORE for less, unless the company that OWNED that company was the next down the line, but then Over inflated the Cost, just to declare a loss or Not to show it was Less expensive.
Has the main backbone really improved? Or is it a rabbit hole with more restriction given to the users.
Lets say you get 100mbps, what should your Ping be between here and there. Then what is it at 150mbps or faster. When I had Dialup, I was at 300-400 ping. Im at 50 ping to most sites now. At over 200 times faster shouldnt it be abit better, if things are Supposed to be better>?
The BIG part of this tends to be, how fast the criminals figure out WHERE the info came from to get arrested.
Better to Collect TONS and years of data, then to let loose the idea that, 'That program was the only way I communicated, with others'.
And I really wonder sometimes, that as a Criminal, Why not get someone With abit of programming skill, LOOK at the program you are using BEFORE you use it. AND MAKE your OWN Chat program, QUIT using what is around and made by others.
The biggest thing about crime tends to be WORK.
NOT forced work. NEEDING to work to live. But being paid enough to live and have fun.
But when you consider that the cost of 1 person in jail is EQUAL to about $40k per year. Thats about $20 per hour for 1 person.
HOW many people could live on $20 per hour? how about $15 per hour Full time?
Do understand this, THATS WITHOUT TAXES. If you consider the taxes paid, that $20 is almost $30 per hour, then taking the Taxes makes it $20.
Which is easier? Giving State assistance worth about $10 per hour per person, or sending all of us to jail? and then the only ones making the money would be the jailers.
That hawks may watch over a field of mice, but there are STILL mice in the field?
Some of them may move to another field.
Some may die to the hawks.
But the mice get smarter, learn how to move around and NOT get caught.
Some goto being nocturnal. Some stay underground while a few forage to bring back food.
Some love the idea of A bunch run out and get everything, and 1-2 get caught, but they still got everything they need and only lost a few.
Some will stick closer to the trees, make it harder for the Hawks to fly and catch them.
Every Bar that has a music box or even live music, pays a Fee to do so.
If this is available to public use, WHY NOT add it to the use from a public site?
Even if you have to describe yourself as a Bar for recreational drinking.
For all of this, its Who owns what and who, and Who is gettng the money that What wants.
After the money goes threw more then 2-3 companies there shouldnt be much left. Or its another game of hide the pea.
I keep wondering WHO owns the Tier 1 access, as we keep hearing only 1- names.
(Old) centurylink (New) Lumen tech
Sprint
Verizon
Zayo Group
Some of the Info here is interesting, as it was funded and Supported by the Gov. Then was taken over by the corps. Then we started getting Charged for it.
PCCW
More at site.
DOnt totally match the first site list, unless They are owned from the other corps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_exchange_points
The Internet has 3 layers but the big part is Where they connect.
Look under Asia This is the Pacific islands, then the United states.
And you wondered Why you connected threw 6+ systems just to go from here to there. Look at the last section of the USA, where others tend to have a Group, ours is TBD. We dont really know how they all interconnect.
There are a ton of reasons Google gave up.
Including hte cities demanding HOW it had to be installed.
1 way to install was to go into the sewer system, but I think that was nix'ed as our water systems are about as NEW as 50-100 years old.
ANd
If the Movie system would upload THEIR data BEFORE the hackers do? They could have a Paid service and get things Done allot easier.
We have all been there, long ago, with Movie rentals.
Even if they released NEW, at $1 per play. They would make Billions. AND they wouldnt need different versions for Different locations(yes they do that), and instant Sub titles, as needed.
Ask Netflix'
"made clear that protecting copyright remains the top priority for the association."
Then protect it.
But you are trying to make more money then is based on CR. You want to make more money from what you have, and NOT from the Future of the market. IF you could you would still be getting royalties and payments for Books and publishing from the 1850's or even farther back in history.
Strange that the Most popular book ever, is given away, mostly for free.
So,
No time restriction
no Proof that they will Make money or A specific amount Greater than.
Does this work from other countries? Considering the USA MPAA/RIAA has been creating offices and getting laws passed in other countries.
Im not sure, but dont think there is Any international law about this.
Its interesting How the Major corps think they can make money from Control of a product THEY DONT distribute to every person THEMSELVES. And the companies that do that, still have to pay for it First.
the top of the internet corps are having a problem with?
Contracts and ENOUGH servers to CHARGE big corps MORE MONEY?
Arnt they willing to install their OWN server farms and Create their Own business on the internet? Not really.
They have this great idea to BUY an instant business that will Work under Their idea of doing business. Cut everything fromt he corp to make More money then they were before. NOT understanding that, That corp already did/does what it can to cut every corner.
Or over paying the management, so they dont have any more profit.
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For all the logic
None is to be had.
IF you want competition, OPEN things up, NOT lock them down.
WE all know the old, beginnings from 2000 and the battles faught by allot of small groups to create things. And how many got SWATTED down, taken to court, COPIED another site and got taken away.
The Problem in the Real world is this hasnt happened to the Other corps. Forced competition, Get rid of contracts and handshakes, that Make each Corp Stay in their OWN corner. Non-compete Contracts are the Shame of Competition. We have more regs covering this crap in real sports and Olympics on TV, then we do in the real world.
What has stopped anyone from taking over the ATT/DSL area's in the USA? NO ONE WANTS TO BUILD IT, even after the gov. has PAID THEM to do it.
They are all bill collectors.
NOW, lets talk about the ones that are Supposed to be doing the work. Since the Main companies we can see ARNT. Why are we paying the ISP's money? When we could pay the companies that BUILD the infrastructure. After you give the money to the ISP, they just stick it in the pocket. They Arnt the builders.
Why are we fighting the Internals of the internet? the Ones that BUILT what is there?
How long did it take to build up the Cellphone system, even after we watched in on TV, on Hawaii 5-0. 1968? 30+ years. Who remembers ROAMING. Out of service areas? Tech has come along ways but it was the Building the system that took time. NOW we can have the Net build up fairly quickly, and Stomp on it? For doing what is Possible?
REALLY want to Adjust the net? GET the larger corps to QUIT fronting for other companies. Just cause it says Amazon or Walmart, dont mean you are getting it from there.
IF they keep messing around all we are going to have is a GIANT internet MALL.
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Re: Re: Re: For once, a smart move by law enforcement
And making tons of money just making the communications app. to sell to the other crooks.
Thanks for the idea.
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Re: Telecommunications is an industry based on a lie
The infrastructure we have is Pre-1934 and then allow for updates in the 70's then 80's then the middle 1990's.
90% of it didnt really change allot.
PTLD, had a 6% coverage in town, in the 1990's then the internet hit hard, and they had to get it up to over 80%. took them about 8-12 months to wire up fiber to each of the relay stations. but does that cover everything? not really. Population growth sucks.
The interconnects are all the same as before the 1990's. A location where 1 system connects to another. The net isnt a NET, its a balls of strings, wrapped up into a mess of a ball and Tied knots all threw the ball. And a few loose strings still inside it.
The REAL updates to the infrastructure are based on What is broken. Nothing more. The Current group of ISP' owners are bill collectors, and not much else. If you arnt in a High pay district, they dont care much until someone gets a HOT poker out and Shoves them to get things done. But then they hire another group to do the work. ANd blame them if it aint done.
We might as well create a TON of jobs, and just get it all done and then sell it back or Sell access to the corps. Nothing in this nation was ever fully done by the corps, unless the gov. Backed it up with money or built it themselves.
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The biggest part
Tends to be ALL the things the FCC is supposed to do, THEY DIDNT DO.
https://www.fcc.gov/about-fcc/advisory-committees-fcc
https://www.cliffsnotes.com/cliffsnotes/su bjects/american-government/what-does-the-fcc-regulate
Advertising: The FCC regulates and limits the ways in which companies can use telecommunications to contact consumers, including limiting automated calling systems (robocalls) and expectations from phone solicitors. The FCC teamed up with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to create the national Do-Not-Call list.
Accessibility: Through continued growth and regulation, the FCC also makes sure that telecommunications technologies are available to underserved populations, such as people with disabilities, rural communities, the poor, and small businesses.
how many of these have been in the news recently?
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may not engage
1
" lawful content,"
In what country or USA state?
Bestiality is still legal in SOME states.
Spam isnt really illegal
Want to know whats illegal in the Muslim groups?? How about China? The Philippines?
HOW about whats LEGAL in Bangkok Thailand? in the red district?
What was that Problem the USA had problems with?>? OFF SHORE GAMBLING??
2
"lawful internet traffic"
I love most of this, as its NOT against the Internet corps, its mostly the Tier 1 and 2 sections of the internet, AND the ISP's.
For 1/2 of this see #1, Lawful?
the rest, is to DEFINE Access to the net. Min/max and WHAT the ISP's have to upgrade and KEEP accessible. AS well as how much they can charge.
After all of this, can the Internet Pass the buck to this person for all the Posting and DMCA running amok?
On the post: Detroit The Latest City Forced To Cobble Together Working Internet Thanks To Telecom Market Failure
Re: Re: Did some digging.
But its trying to find that Sub company of the Sub company.
Now lets ask how much of the Backbone in the USA has been updated.
No company in my life has ever given MORE for less, unless the company that OWNED that company was the next down the line, but then Over inflated the Cost, just to declare a loss or Not to show it was Less expensive.
Has the main backbone really improved? Or is it a rabbit hole with more restriction given to the users.
Lets say you get 100mbps, what should your Ping be between here and there. Then what is it at 150mbps or faster. When I had Dialup, I was at 300-400 ping. Im at 50 ping to most sites now. At over 200 times faster shouldnt it be abit better, if things are Supposed to be better>?
On the post: FBI, Australian Police Ran A Backdoored Encrypted Chat Service For Three Years
Re: For once, a smart move by law enforcement
The BIG part of this tends to be, how fast the criminals figure out WHERE the info came from to get arrested.
Better to Collect TONS and years of data, then to let loose the idea that, 'That program was the only way I communicated, with others'.
And I really wonder sometimes, that as a Criminal, Why not get someone With abit of programming skill, LOOK at the program you are using BEFORE you use it. AND MAKE your OWN Chat program, QUIT using what is around and made by others.
On the post: Florida Sheriff's 'Intelligence-Led Policing' Effort Is Nothing More Than A Targeted Harassment Program
Re: Why is it?
The biggest thing about crime tends to be WORK.
NOT forced work. NEEDING to work to live. But being paid enough to live and have fun.
But when you consider that the cost of 1 person in jail is EQUAL to about $40k per year. Thats about $20 per hour for 1 person.
HOW many people could live on $20 per hour? how about $15 per hour Full time?
Do understand this, THATS WITHOUT TAXES. If you consider the taxes paid, that $20 is almost $30 per hour, then taking the Taxes makes it $20.
Which is easier? Giving State assistance worth about $10 per hour per person, or sending all of us to jail? and then the only ones making the money would be the jailers.
On the post: Florida Sheriff's 'Intelligence-Led Policing' Effort Is Nothing More Than A Targeted Harassment Program
Why is it?
That hawks may watch over a field of mice, but there are STILL mice in the field?
Some of them may move to another field.
Some may die to the hawks.
But the mice get smarter, learn how to move around and NOT get caught.
Some goto being nocturnal. Some stay underground while a few forage to bring back food.
Some love the idea of A bunch run out and get everything, and 1-2 get caught, but they still got everything they need and only lost a few.
Some will stick closer to the trees, make it harder for the Hawks to fly and catch them.
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There MIGHT be a trick
Every Bar that has a music box or even live music, pays a Fee to do so.
If this is available to public use, WHY NOT add it to the use from a public site?
Even if you have to describe yourself as a Bar for recreational drinking.
On the post: Detroit The Latest City Forced To Cobble Together Working Internet Thanks To Telecom Market Failure
Re: Did some digging.
For all of this, its Who owns what and who, and Who is gettng the money that What wants.
After the money goes threw more then 2-3 companies there shouldnt be much left. Or its another game of hide the pea.
On the post: Detroit The Latest City Forced To Cobble Together Working Internet Thanks To Telecom Market Failure
Did some digging.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network
I keep wondering WHO owns the Tier 1 access, as we keep hearing only 1- names.
(Old) centurylink (New) Lumen tech
Sprint
Verizon
Zayo Group
Some of the Info here is interesting, as it was funded and Supported by the Gov. Then was taken over by the corps. Then we started getting Charged for it.
https://asrank.caida.org/
Service rank based on connections to other systems.
More at site.
DOnt totally match the first site list, unless They are owned from the other corps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_exchange_points
The Internet has 3 layers but the big part is Where they connect.
Look under Asia This is the Pacific islands, then the United states.
And you wondered Why you connected threw 6+ systems just to go from here to there. Look at the last section of the USA, where others tend to have a Group, ours is TBD. We dont really know how they all interconnect.
On the post: Detroit The Latest City Forced To Cobble Together Working Internet Thanks To Telecom Market Failure
Re: Re:
There are a ton of reasons Google gave up.
Including hte cities demanding HOW it had to be installed.
1 way to install was to go into the sewer system, but I think that was nix'ed as our water systems are about as NEW as 50-100 years old.
On the post: European Commission Betrays Internet Users By Cravenly Introducing Huge Loophole For Copyright Companies In Upload Filter Guidance
Re: Obvious (and probably wrong) answer
ANd
If the Movie system would upload THEIR data BEFORE the hackers do? They could have a Paid service and get things Done allot easier.
We have all been there, long ago, with Movie rentals.
Even if they released NEW, at $1 per play. They would make Billions. AND they wouldnt need different versions for Different locations(yes they do that), and instant Sub titles, as needed.
Ask Netflix'
On the post: Ohio Files Bizarre And Nonsensical Lawsuit Against Google, Claiming It's A Common Carrier; But What Does That Even Mean?
Google?
Gooogle do you do Plumbing?
HOuse painting?
Dog sitting?
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ideas?
"made clear that protecting copyright remains the top priority for the association."
Then protect it.
But you are trying to make more money then is based on CR. You want to make more money from what you have, and NOT from the Future of the market. IF you could you would still be getting royalties and payments for Books and publishing from the 1850's or even farther back in history.
Strange that the Most popular book ever, is given away, mostly for free.
On the post: Does Taking Down Content Lead Ignorant People To Believe It's More Likely To Be True?
Re: Re: Re: Re:
if you dont quit whacking it off, it will fall off, and we dont have replacements.
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Re: Why go to North Korea when you can get the same treatment he
Ever delt with a accident on the job?
Even if you become disabled, you get to deal with the Corp trying to get rid of you.
On the post: European Commission Betrays Internet Users By Cravenly Introducing Huge Loophole For Copyright Companies In Upload Filter Guidance
"cause significant economic harm "
So,
No time restriction
no Proof that they will Make money or A specific amount Greater than.
Does this work from other countries? Considering the USA MPAA/RIAA has been creating offices and getting laws passed in other countries.
Im not sure, but dont think there is Any international law about this.
Its interesting How the Major corps think they can make money from Control of a product THEY DONT distribute to every person THEMSELVES. And the companies that do that, still have to pay for it First.
On the post: CNET Amplifies FCC's Carr's Attempt To Force 'Big Tech' To Pay 'Big Telecom' For No Reason
So
the top of the internet corps are having a problem with?
Contracts and ENOUGH servers to CHARGE big corps MORE MONEY?
Arnt they willing to install their OWN server farms and Create their Own business on the internet? Not really.
They have this great idea to BUY an instant business that will Work under Their idea of doing business. Cut everything fromt he corp to make More money then they were before. NOT understanding that, That corp already did/does what it can to cut every corner.
Or over paying the management, so they dont have any more profit.
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