Re: Golden Rule: Those with the Gold make the Rules.
Perhaps a slight addition to the above is in order, considering recent events.
Martial law need not be declared if something else that accomplishes the same general result is available. I had naturally assumed that the phony "terrorist" card would be the means of takeover by the fascists, but the news is now filled to overflowing with the "imminent threat of a massive Ebola Epidemic spreading uncontrollably across America."
In my experience, continuous and massive news coverage is always designed to create fear in the public, so they will approve government atrocities claimed to be for their protection, such as the recent spate of ISIS/ISIL newsbytes which preceded the Government's announcement of its New War Plans (same as the old war plans) and escalation of drone attacks in the middle east. ISIS/ISIL also conveniently offered the Federal Government the excuse to Not "bring the troops home", as promised.
It is however, altogether possible that the new CDC patented Ebola(TM) Epidemic could actually be more than just a new way for the Petro-chemical Pharmaceutical Industry to make a couple trillion bux from the sale of the New CDC patented Ebola(TM) Inoculations, now rolling off the conveyor belts of most of the big pharma-phactories.
If the Government can convince the American Public that this is indeed a Kissinger-type "Threat From Beyond", that necessitates mass forced inoculations and mass forced quarantines, then they won't have to declare martial law at all.
With a Killer Bug on the loose, they can purge the whole country of every non-conformist, rebel, and dissenter with high precision and perfect plausible denial, leaving naught but the sheep and the broken, as future slave labor.
"Bad laws exist for a reason. They benefit somebody."
Thanks. I think that says it all. No other explanation I've seen to date explains it better certainly and nothing in actual law procedures explains it at all.
If it was a "just a few bad apples", there would be no problem for the Good Cops to put an end to the corruption.
Stopping internal corruption is only difficult when the bad guys greatly out-number the good guys and when the bad guys receive support and protection from a corrupt political and judicial system and the good guys do not.
If its on TV, its not entirely true and may indeed be entirely false.
If it is mostly or partly true, its because someone wants the true parts disseminated widely to support some other associated information that is false.
All commercial claims should be considered entirely false.
This is based on the ruling during the FOX TV case concerning reporting of truth about Genetically Modified Foods, where FOX won the case against the reporters when the judge stated that TV has no mandate requiring honesty and thus, there was no law against telling lies on TV.
Where there is no consequence for lying, there is no need for truth, unless a modicum of truth suits the broadcaster's need at the moment.
hehehehe - I would bet dollars to donuts that this is just Division X of the NSA dirty tricks department, doing what they do best - robbing the public of its money.
Easiest way to know if this is true, is if the scammers DO NOT GET CAUGHT, or if all news about them stops completely.
My hopes are that this idea of computerized, algorithmic mass auto-manufacturing something to gain copyright control over all possible iterations of that thing, and thus being able to sue anyone who ever does anything similar in the future, will force the courts and judges of the world to finally realize that copyright law is being massively abused by non-creators and needs to immediately be returned to its original state for its originally stated purpose.
Before this incredible corporations-and-lawyers-get-rich scheme started and copyright was only for the protection of creators for a very limited time, there were very few legal proceedings - compared to today - dealing with copyright infringement.
Now it is as much a daily occurrence as weather and almost NEVER has anything to do with protecting creators or their works.
Yes I realize that lawyers will need to buy smaller yachts and that politicians world wide will receive smaller graft checks thereafter, but hey, I think we can all live with that.
I was simply offering the "street" version of the most popular official method for not getting caught.
You're absolutely right of course, that it will be stated in the best of legaleeze wording, because it will be stated by the most expensive experts in the art of legaleeze wording.
My "street version" was offered in the hopes of expressing just how juvenile the excuse is, as it is only slightly removed from the "Dog ate my homework." level.
It gets really depressing when day after day, the authorities one depends on to NOT start World War Three, act like spoiled infants of 8-9 years of age. It is even more frustrating when every other institutional "authority" mimics this behavior and the courts accept it at face value over and over again.
Does anyone understand the mechanism behind the near impossibility of repealing a bad law?
It appears as though, the worse the law turns out to be, the harder it is to remove it from the books.
I find this odd because as far as I can tell, the removal of a law is not really all that difficult or involved and laws can be and are removed easily in many cases.
I misunderstood your statement. I thought you were stating that laws which are not designed to protect human rights were technically not laws.
My response was to inquire as to the label that should be used to describe the library of "legal rulings" created by the myriad rulers of city-states and nations over the vast majority of human history, who do not consider human rights beyond their own, to be worthy of legal protection.
Uh, we're sorry Yer Onner sir, but, um, the hard drive where we kept all them documents you wanted, fell off the table into a bucket of hot sauce and was completely wiped clean of all incriminating evidence. Err.. sorry bout that.
"Human Rights are not what's granted by laws, they are freestanding principals, yardsticks, by which laws are measured."
Pray tell then, what might we call those laws enacted by tyrants and dictators that deal with the movements and activities of those people who have no human rights?
"Has anyone ever had a discussion of rebuilding the ethical/legal structure from the ground up..."
Um, there's a serious problem here with this idea and its probably why you have found no place where its discussed.
You see, before you can replace something, you have to first realize and admit that its stopped working - not bent or twisted, but actually completely broken.
The kind of broken that voting another Corporate Clown into office will not fix.
The kind of broken that necessitates replacement, not repair.
Since nobody in America is yet willing to admit that their God Blessed System of Law and Order "Can Ever BE Broken", nobody has even considered the idea that it might need to be repaired, let alone replaced in its entirety.
However, I would like to encourage you to start precisely the sort of movement you describe and attempt through blogs and perhaps a website, to enlist the aid of others in the endeavour.
If nothing else comes of the effort, at least you will get to meet some of the people and their henchmen, who are currently hard at work abusing the system they helped to break, as it won't take them very long before they notice and try to put and end to your effort.
It is an extremely patriotic and somewhat dangerous endeavor, but extremely educational, as such ventures go.
"Increasingly, however, it seems like "the rule of law" is being used as a dangerous and misleading shield for some very corrupt behavior."
Well, I'll be damned!
If this kind of clear thinking keeps up, pretty soon people will start to realize that:
When Crooks Write the Laws, Only the Innocent need Fear the Hand of Law Enforcement.
Now if we could just get Americans to admit for once, that...
It Can Happen Here, And It Has Indeed Happened Here.
OK, you're right. That is far too much to expect from modern Americans.
The fascists will probably have to start shooting them in the streets first... oh wait, the militarized cops have already started doing that years ago....
I guess the only way that Americans are ever gonna be able to open their eyes, is after the fascists declare martial law and put their sorry asses in work camps, or to put it in simpler terms, after its too late.
"Abolish the FED, FDIC, FHA, HUD, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Repeal the Community Reinvestment Act. Abolish the Federal Reserve as we know it. Replace it with an automated system as Milton Friedman suggested until better solution is discovered."
Wow!!!
Now there's a list of shit that will absolutely never happen!
Seeing the heads of every crooked American politician, bankster and businessman adorning pikes along every Main Street in America has a far better chance of occurring.
In fact, the first event could never happen until after the second event took place.
The process would not be legal, but there might be no punishment meted out after the fact was accomplished, making it not really illegal either. And in the interim, it would indeed give those involved the ability to do as they needed, on the fly, without the threat of impeachment.
Very interesting. :)
I suspect much of the House Stink is designed to create the appearance of separation between it and the Most Transparent Administration In American History.
What we need now is a good war to put all these irritating questions to bed.
I wonder just how many "conspiracy theories" have to prove 100% true before We the People begin to realize there actually is a real conspiracy in effect that threatens the continued existence of the USA as a nation.
Probably all of them will have to prove true before even half the population wakes up from the American Dream, since reality is oh so much uglier than the fantasy We the People want to be real.
And nobody wants to even consider the notion that those in authority who We the People depend on for answers and solutions to real problems, might actually be working only for themselves and have nothing but contempt for those who are willing to "job-out" responsibility for their lives and livelihoods.
Oh well, not to worry. The Most Transparent Administration In American History has just rolled out its newest Terrorist Menace, ISIS, so, in no time at all, we will all be back to playing the most lucrative game in town, while the crooks in office eliminate any of We the People at home, who have posed a threat to Business As Usual.
Nothing allows the sweeping of unwanted ideas and persons under the carpet better than a good old fashioned war.
He'll likely just do what TV execs do when they produce a Dead-Dog TV show and want everyone to think its a Masterpiece Production - start numerous ad campaigns that lie about how much everyone loves the new show and how everyone is talking about it, in the hopes that everyone will want to be a part of this claimed majority and watch the new show and talk about it. Trick their herd instinct.
Or in Comcast's case, lie about how their new customer service is rated Number One by everyone that will accept bribes to write a glowing review, and then flood the blogs and social nets with sock puppet praise.
But fix the actual customer experience, by giving customers what they want... that idea will never actually occur to anyone in Comcast and would likely get the new guy fired in a heart's beat were he to suggest it.
Would it be possible for the members of the government to secretly cancel the constitution and bill of rights, using an invasion by foreign powers leading to war conditions as the excuse/rationale, and secretly replace them with a set of rules that stated pretty much the opposite, as far as what members of the government can do is concerned?
I assume that prior to 9/11, special executive orders had been secretly written that would allow the government, under direct threat of invasion by a foreign power, to end the validity of the constitution and bill of rights for the duration of the conflict and replace them with secret rules of conduct deemed necessary to defend against such an invasion by a foreign power.
Once the constitution and bill of rights were no longer considered to be in force, and a new set of rules allowing massive over-reach and extraordinary executive powers was secretly enacted, would it not then be legal for the government to carry on in the manner it has been since 9/11 with complete immunity from prosecution under the "old" rules of the constitution and bill of rights because they no longer applied - at least until after the condition of war was ended, or the invaders were defeated?
No really, you have got to be the best Fake Shill EVER!!
There is no way that you're a for real shill. You're simply way too obvious. I mean how predictable was that comment?
Personally, I think the work you do is awesome.
You never fail to point out just how absurd the official propaganda on every topic is, simply by pretending to be the purveyor of the official policy and stating their PR position in the most predictable and absurd manner possible.
There is an important addition to that rule that most people forget to include.
The short version you quoted was made popular by crooks and politicians for a very good reason.
The full version is as follows:
"Never ascribe to maliciousness that which can be attributed to stupidity or incompetence, unless money or politics is involved, then assume malicious intent."
The reason that these people keep doing this sort of thing is because people keep attributing their malicious intent to stupidity and incompetence, allowing them to simply resign or be promoted, rather than face criminal charges.
If it were actually stupidity and incompetence, then they would stumble onto correct behaviour as often as they stumble onto profitable criminal activity.
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Re: Golden Rule: Those with the Gold make the Rules.
Martial law need not be declared if something else that accomplishes the same general result is available. I had naturally assumed that the phony "terrorist" card would be the means of takeover by the fascists, but the news is now filled to overflowing with the "imminent threat of a massive Ebola Epidemic spreading uncontrollably across America."
In my experience, continuous and massive news coverage is always designed to create fear in the public, so they will approve government atrocities claimed to be for their protection, such as the recent spate of ISIS/ISIL newsbytes which preceded the Government's announcement of its New War Plans (same as the old war plans) and escalation of drone attacks in the middle east. ISIS/ISIL also conveniently offered the Federal Government the excuse to Not "bring the troops home", as promised.
It is however, altogether possible that the new CDC patented Ebola(TM) Epidemic could actually be more than just a new way for the Petro-chemical Pharmaceutical Industry to make a couple trillion bux from the sale of the New CDC patented Ebola(TM) Inoculations, now rolling off the conveyor belts of most of the big pharma-phactories.
If the Government can convince the American Public that this is indeed a Kissinger-type "Threat From Beyond", that necessitates mass forced inoculations and mass forced quarantines, then they won't have to declare martial law at all.
With a Killer Bug on the loose, they can purge the whole country of every non-conformist, rebel, and dissenter with high precision and perfect plausible denial, leaving naught but the sheep and the broken, as future slave labor.
Just saying.....
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Re: Re: Re: My summary
"Bad laws exist for a reason. They benefit somebody."
Thanks. I think that says it all. No other explanation I've seen to date explains it better certainly and nothing in actual law procedures explains it at all.
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Stopping internal corruption is only difficult when the bad guys greatly out-number the good guys and when the bad guys receive support and protection from a corrupt political and judicial system and the good guys do not.
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TV is a social engineering tool.
I have a very simple rule about TV:
If its on TV, its not entirely true and may indeed be entirely false.
If it is mostly or partly true, its because someone wants the true parts disseminated widely to support some other associated information that is false.
All commercial claims should be considered entirely false.
This is based on the ruling during the FOX TV case concerning reporting of truth about Genetically Modified Foods, where FOX won the case against the reporters when the judge stated that TV has no mandate requiring honesty and thus, there was no law against telling lies on TV.
Where there is no consequence for lying, there is no need for truth, unless a modicum of truth suits the broadcaster's need at the moment.
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Plausible Deniability to the rescue once again.
Easiest way to know if this is true, is if the scammers DO NOT GET CAUGHT, or if all news about them stops completely.
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Might be the best thing to happen to copyright.
Before this incredible corporations-and-lawyers-get-rich scheme started and copyright was only for the protection of creators for a very limited time, there were very few legal proceedings - compared to today - dealing with copyright infringement.
Now it is as much a daily occurrence as weather and almost NEVER has anything to do with protecting creators or their works.
Yes I realize that lawyers will need to buy smaller yachts and that politicians world wide will receive smaller graft checks thereafter, but hey, I think we can all live with that.
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Re: Re: let me guess.....
You're absolutely right of course, that it will be stated in the best of legaleeze wording, because it will be stated by the most expensive experts in the art of legaleeze wording.
My "street version" was offered in the hopes of expressing just how juvenile the excuse is, as it is only slightly removed from the "Dog ate my homework." level.
It gets really depressing when day after day, the authorities one depends on to NOT start World War Three, act like spoiled infants of 8-9 years of age. It is even more frustrating when every other institutional "authority" mimics this behavior and the courts accept it at face value over and over again.
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Re: My summary
It appears as though, the worse the law turns out to be, the harder it is to remove it from the books.
I find this odd because as far as I can tell, the removal of a law is not really all that difficult or involved and laws can be and are removed easily in many cases.
Is there a natural/simple reason for this?
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Re: Re: Re:
My response was to inquire as to the label that should be used to describe the library of "legal rulings" created by the myriad rulers of city-states and nations over the vast majority of human history, who do not consider human rights beyond their own, to be worthy of legal protection.
My apologies.
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let me guess.....
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Pray tell then, what might we call those laws enacted by tyrants and dictators that deal with the movements and activities of those people who have no human rights?
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Um, there's a serious problem here with this idea and its probably why you have found no place where its discussed.
You see, before you can replace something, you have to first realize and admit that its stopped working - not bent or twisted, but actually completely broken.
The kind of broken that voting another Corporate Clown into office will not fix.
The kind of broken that necessitates replacement, not repair.
Since nobody in America is yet willing to admit that their God Blessed System of Law and Order "Can Ever BE Broken", nobody has even considered the idea that it might need to be repaired, let alone replaced in its entirety.
However, I would like to encourage you to start precisely the sort of movement you describe and attempt through blogs and perhaps a website, to enlist the aid of others in the endeavour.
If nothing else comes of the effort, at least you will get to meet some of the people and their henchmen, who are currently hard at work abusing the system they helped to break, as it won't take them very long before they notice and try to put and end to your effort.
It is an extremely patriotic and somewhat dangerous endeavor, but extremely educational, as such ventures go.
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Golden Rule: Those with the Gold make the Rules.
Well, I'll be damned!
If this kind of clear thinking keeps up, pretty soon people will start to realize that:
When Crooks Write the Laws, Only the Innocent need Fear the Hand of Law Enforcement.
Now if we could just get Americans to admit for once, that...
It Can Happen Here, And It Has Indeed Happened Here.
OK, you're right. That is far too much to expect from modern Americans.
The fascists will probably have to start shooting them in the streets first... oh wait, the militarized cops have already started doing that years ago....
I guess the only way that Americans are ever gonna be able to open their eyes, is after the fascists declare martial law and put their sorry asses in work camps, or to put it in simpler terms, after its too late.
C'est la vie eh.
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Re: Solutions
Wow!!!
Now there's a list of shit that will absolutely never happen!
Seeing the heads of every crooked American politician, bankster and businessman adorning pikes along every Main Street in America has a far better chance of occurring.
In fact, the first event could never happen until after the second event took place.
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Re: Re: Re: NJ town...
Very interesting. :)
I suspect much of the House Stink is designed to create the appearance of separation between it and the Most Transparent Administration In American History.
Plausible Deniability as it were.
Thank you.
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What we need now is a good war to put all these irritating questions to bed.
Probably all of them will have to prove true before even half the population wakes up from the American Dream, since reality is oh so much uglier than the fantasy We the People want to be real.
And nobody wants to even consider the notion that those in authority who We the People depend on for answers and solutions to real problems, might actually be working only for themselves and have nothing but contempt for those who are willing to "job-out" responsibility for their lives and livelihoods.
Oh well, not to worry. The Most Transparent Administration In American History has just rolled out its newest Terrorist Menace, ISIS, so, in no time at all, we will all be back to playing the most lucrative game in town, while the crooks in office eliminate any of We the People at home, who have posed a threat to Business As Usual.
Nothing allows the sweeping of unwanted ideas and persons under the carpet better than a good old fashioned war.
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A brand new hat will solve the problem...
He'll likely just do what TV execs do when they produce a Dead-Dog TV show and want everyone to think its a Masterpiece Production - start numerous ad campaigns that lie about how much everyone loves the new show and how everyone is talking about it, in the hopes that everyone will want to be a part of this claimed majority and watch the new show and talk about it. Trick their herd instinct.
Or in Comcast's case, lie about how their new customer service is rated Number One by everyone that will accept bribes to write a glowing review, and then flood the blogs and social nets with sock puppet praise.
But fix the actual customer experience, by giving customers what they want... that idea will never actually occur to anyone in Comcast and would likely get the new guy fired in a heart's beat were he to suggest it.
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Re: NJ town...
Would it be possible for the members of the government to secretly cancel the constitution and bill of rights, using an invasion by foreign powers leading to war conditions as the excuse/rationale, and secretly replace them with a set of rules that stated pretty much the opposite, as far as what members of the government can do is concerned?
I assume that prior to 9/11, special executive orders had been secretly written that would allow the government, under direct threat of invasion by a foreign power, to end the validity of the constitution and bill of rights for the duration of the conflict and replace them with secret rules of conduct deemed necessary to defend against such an invasion by a foreign power.
Once the constitution and bill of rights were no longer considered to be in force, and a new set of rules allowing massive over-reach and extraordinary executive powers was secretly enacted, would it not then be legal for the government to carry on in the manner it has been since 9/11 with complete immunity from prosecution under the "old" rules of the constitution and bill of rights because they no longer applied - at least until after the condition of war was ended, or the invaders were defeated?
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Wutta Guy!
There is no way that you're a for real shill. You're simply way too obvious. I mean how predictable was that comment?
Personally, I think the work you do is awesome.
You never fail to point out just how absurd the official propaganda on every topic is, simply by pretending to be the purveyor of the official policy and stating their PR position in the most predictable and absurd manner possible.
I salute you.
Keep up the good work.
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Re:
The short version you quoted was made popular by crooks and politicians for a very good reason.
The full version is as follows:
"Never ascribe to maliciousness that which can be attributed to stupidity or incompetence, unless money or politics is involved, then assume malicious intent."
The reason that these people keep doing this sort of thing is because people keep attributing their malicious intent to stupidity and incompetence, allowing them to simply resign or be promoted, rather than face criminal charges.
If it were actually stupidity and incompetence, then they would stumble onto correct behaviour as often as they stumble onto profitable criminal activity.
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