Notwithstanding DHS' response the library has a legitimate concern about being charged with any wrongdoing based on IP tracking to their location.
That's a non-sequitor. Even the NSA complains that it's damned near impossible to track IPs in tor. Add a VPN connection on top, and it's ridiculous to even consider it.
Footnote, TOR or no TOR - only a goddamn fool goes to the library to do their naughty stuff.
Think harder. You're overly (and unnecessarily) paranoid. Carry your laptop in and boot Tails Linux from USB key. Tor's enabled (and even i2p if you prefer), and you sitting in a cubicle using a laptop isn't going to be visible with the CCTV cameras libraries use.
Add to this librarians are well known for being some of the best defenders of free expression and communication out there. They generally get this stuff (though their masters/managers may not).
"Lebanon terrorists want to use Tor in their endeavors."
As do Iran (or North Korean, or Chinese, ...) based human rights activists. Don't blame the gun (or tool). Blame the user or shooter who mis-uses (or abuses) it.
But repressive regimes do not want TOR to be in use. That is why DHS is trying to put an end to the use of TOR.
We have so many things to thank the Soviets for. Were it not for them freaking out the CIA and US' military, we wouldn't have tor (developed by the US Navy), or the Internet (created by DARPA), nor many crypto techs (ie. PGP). Nor would we have created NASA to put men on the moon. Of course, we need to thank the Nazis for that too (von Braun, et al). What a tangled web.
I often wonder if we were rooting for the wrong side all along. Perhaps Fidel and Che were right all along, and they were actually freedom fighters trying to free "We The People" from the fascists imposing tyranny to supplant democracy. What we see today from the overlords certainly suggests it.
I wish I could live long enough to see the real story when it's finally released. It'll be fascinating.
That seems a bit too convenient. We can't really tell who is civilian and who is military since we're not fighting another nation. So we can target whoever we think is fighting us by any means, but they can only target our military.
Our guys are wearing uniforms, making it easy for the enemy. If we want to call ourselves the good guys, we need to go the extra distance to determine combatants from civilians. The military has a responsibility to protect innocents, not just kill the enemy, else what's the point of war in the first place?
Spies not wearing uniforms can be shot on sight. They're not covered by Geneva Conventions. In Vietnam, that little kid running towards you offering a hug could have a live grenade her mother clipped under her dress. That's a horrible situation for a soldier to find theirself in.
War is hell, as it should be. The only way to win is not to play. The point of it is to win peace for civilians to live in peace. Otherwise, you're the aggressor, and everyone should be piling onto the effort to destroy you.
Except that, all that being said, this isn't a work of art we're talking about. Duchamp created his chess set so that he could play chess. It wasn't something he sought to reproduce for sale.
Did you miss point "2"?
2) The chess pieces themselves were created in 1917-1918 while Duchamp was in Argentina. He then brought the pieces back to France where he worked to market them.
I'm not quibbling or arguing copyright law minutia (I really don't care and think it's all very silly and unnecessary). I just think those two statements contradict each other.
It is very sad that there's people out there like the Duchamp heirs, and Tolkien's heirs, who've been given the power to muck up what we can do with our shared cultural heritage. It's doubly sad when they're pulling this only when someone else steps up and does something with it when they had no intention of doing so themselves. "Dog in a manger" comes very much to mind.
First difference: they were tried at a court (even if it may be a sham, at least they went through the procedure). They weren't assassinated by your special forces or their homes bombed.
Not for want of trying. My dad was a tail-gunner in one of the B-17s that were carpet bombing Germany.
BTW, I'm not suggesting I approve of this stuff. I hate the fact that civilians can be considered legitimate targets of war. That's a race to the bottom that no-one should want. That was the worst part of 9/11 for me. Those towers weren't a military installation, and those passengers in the planes weren't soldiers, nor were the first responders who were also killed in their collapse. The Pentagon was arguably a legit target, but not with a plane full of civvies.
... if we target their propaganda and recruitment centers, and we claim they are legitimate targets; the same can be done to us.
Like the Pentagon, I think they are legit targets. Not Twitter, et al, but recruitment centers and official mouthpieces of the regime (VoA?) are part of the regime's propaganda machine.
Things like the Charlie Hebdo strikes would be legitimized, as they could claim that they were doing anti-ISIS propaganda and thus, it's not terrorism but warfare.
No, because CH was civilians. They were expressing their ideas, not assisting in physically assaulting anyone. Even if they were supportive of the regime that is, they're civilians, not military, and not valid targets of war.
According to some, even speaking against what the US is doing in war zones should be considered an act of terrorism.
Yeah, and that's insane in a country that has freedom of speech in its primary document of law. People thought Jane Fonda should have been tried for treason, but if you let your military decide what's right or wrong, you may as well just burn that Constitution because it won't be needed any longer.
In short, in WWII, if the Allied forces would have wanted to exterminate all Germans and Japanese, it would have been legitimate to do so because all of them had a part in the enemy's actions against your country.
And that is what's wrong! The Nazis taking power in Germany shouldn't make everyone who failed to stop them complicit in their crimes. What power do we have to stop Obama's drone warfare, or the Neocons' regime change machinations? None whatsoever! Neither did civilians in Germany and Japan.
"Game Of Thrones" is a great title for that series. It's warring gangs fighting each other using us as cannon fodder. We civilians shouldn't be made complicit in their crimes when all we want to do is survive their game.
When all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Cops' focus is on criminality so anything that isn't criminality doesn't concern them, including free expression and association. Mentioning them merely confuses the issue for them.
This is why concentrations of power must be watched carefully and constrained from overreach. That fireplace of yours could burn down the whole building if you let it get out of your control.
I don't understand why we've allowed this lazy thinking to take control.
Turns out that wasn't the case, so now she needs to make sure that he can't just drop the case and refile constantly as a harassment and silencing tactic.
At which point he claims martyrdom: "See? They're out to get me!" Sadly, there's plenty of sponge brains out there who'll line up on his side (cf. Kim Davis).
I'm hoping he's looking a massive coronary or stroke straight in the eye in the not too distant future; evolution in action. It's getting very tedious having to share my planet with the likes of this.
Today I learned that the US military is run by psychos.
That's not exclusively a US military thing. Even Himmler found the mechanics of the Holocaust distasteful. Those concentration camp guards were kept drunk in hopes of maintaining their grip on sanity.
Either way, specifically targeting people for their speech, rather than their actions... you don't think that's problematic, even in war time?
I don't why you find this problematic. Propaganda's been used as a weapon of war forever. This includes the Bible.
There were official mouthpieces in both Japan and Germany whose job was to sow dissension in the ranks of the enemy. This even became a powerful meme in many Hollywood movies. I believe Germany's was a Brit who was even tried at Nuremburg after the war. I don't recall what happened to Japan's, but there were some who insisted she was forced to do it against her will.
Things continue to get worse because idiots keep paying for it. Break the cycle or shut the hell up...
There's a lot more idiots out there than knowledgeable thinking people. This is the same problem that democracy has. We get what they want, no matter how repellent or odious. We're hostages to all their vices. HRC/Cruz/Jeb/Trump, Walmart, Wall St., Democrat Hawks/Neocons/AIPAC, ...
The more I look at it, the less I believe we ever escaped feudalism, or even the Roman Empire. "Rome is the mob!" -- Gladiator.
The two are not mutually exclusive. Of course they're trying to protect their jobs. They're a union. They could, at the same time, be just as outraged as others seeing their employer fleecing taxpayers for work not done and services not provided & etc. They're taxpayers too you know.
Surely, that's one of the exemptions. Otherwise, I'm just going to laugh myself to death now. What a ridiculous law this is when we're even discussing this silliness.
That's revenue vs. expenditure. Revenue pays stockholder dividends now. Expenditure on infrastructure pays stockholder dividends more and reliably, but later. This being the age of the Quick Buck, it's an easy choice to make.
Thank the MBAs for gaining us this insight. We're in a race to the bottom, didn't you know? They learned all their insights from playing musical chairs in kindergarten. When the music stops, you need to have already grabbed onto your chair.
He commented at how annoying it was and that it didn't have up-to-date addresses.
I'm glad you survived. I hope your friend isn't credulous enough to blindly trust that thing. People have driven onto train tracks and off cliffs believing the things were infallible. Companies the size of Apple get this wrong.
This post 9/11 Government is using a manufactured fear of a squeaky mouse to drive tyrannical laws into force.
Ya know, I can even believe they have no idea that they're building tyranny. They likely honestly believe they're doing this stuff to protect the country from Visigoths invading from all sides.
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That's a non-sequitor. Even the NSA complains that it's damned near impossible to track IPs in tor. Add a VPN connection on top, and it's ridiculous to even consider it.
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Think harder. You're overly (and unnecessarily) paranoid. Carry your laptop in and boot Tails Linux from USB key. Tor's enabled (and even i2p if you prefer), and you sitting in a cubicle using a laptop isn't going to be visible with the CCTV cameras libraries use.
Add to this librarians are well known for being some of the best defenders of free expression and communication out there. They generally get this stuff (though their masters/managers may not).
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As do Iran (or North Korean, or Chinese, ...) based human rights activists. Don't blame the gun (or tool). Blame the user or shooter who mis-uses (or abuses) it.
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We have so many things to thank the Soviets for. Were it not for them freaking out the CIA and US' military, we wouldn't have tor (developed by the US Navy), or the Internet (created by DARPA), nor many crypto techs (ie. PGP). Nor would we have created NASA to put men on the moon. Of course, we need to thank the Nazis for that too (von Braun, et al). What a tangled web.
I often wonder if we were rooting for the wrong side all along. Perhaps Fidel and Che were right all along, and they were actually freedom fighters trying to free "We The People" from the fascists imposing tyranny to supplant democracy. What we see today from the overlords certainly suggests it.
I wish I could live long enough to see the real story when it's finally released. It'll be fascinating.
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Our guys are wearing uniforms, making it easy for the enemy. If we want to call ourselves the good guys, we need to go the extra distance to determine combatants from civilians. The military has a responsibility to protect innocents, not just kill the enemy, else what's the point of war in the first place?
Spies not wearing uniforms can be shot on sight. They're not covered by Geneva Conventions. In Vietnam, that little kid running towards you offering a hug could have a live grenade her mother clipped under her dress. That's a horrible situation for a soldier to find theirself in.
War is hell, as it should be. The only way to win is not to play. The point of it is to win peace for civilians to live in peace. Otherwise, you're the aggressor, and everyone should be piling onto the effort to destroy you.
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A nit or ambiguity perhaps?
Did you miss point "2"?
I'm not quibbling or arguing copyright law minutia (I really don't care and think it's all very silly and unnecessary). I just think those two statements contradict each other.
It is very sad that there's people out there like the Duchamp heirs, and Tolkien's heirs, who've been given the power to muck up what we can do with our shared cultural heritage. It's doubly sad when they're pulling this only when someone else steps up and does something with it when they had no intention of doing so themselves. "Dog in a manger" comes very much to mind.
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Not for want of trying. My dad was a tail-gunner in one of the B-17s that were carpet bombing Germany.
BTW, I'm not suggesting I approve of this stuff. I hate the fact that civilians can be considered legitimate targets of war. That's a race to the bottom that no-one should want. That was the worst part of 9/11 for me. Those towers weren't a military installation, and those passengers in the planes weren't soldiers, nor were the first responders who were also killed in their collapse. The Pentagon was arguably a legit target, but not with a plane full of civvies.
Like the Pentagon, I think they are legit targets. Not Twitter, et al, but recruitment centers and official mouthpieces of the regime (VoA?) are part of the regime's propaganda machine.
No, because CH was civilians. They were expressing their ideas, not assisting in physically assaulting anyone. Even if they were supportive of the regime that is, they're civilians, not military, and not valid targets of war.
Yeah, and that's insane in a country that has freedom of speech in its primary document of law. People thought Jane Fonda should have been tried for treason, but if you let your military decide what's right or wrong, you may as well just burn that Constitution because it won't be needed any longer.
And that is what's wrong! The Nazis taking power in Germany shouldn't make everyone who failed to stop them complicit in their crimes. What power do we have to stop Obama's drone warfare, or the Neocons' regime change machinations? None whatsoever! Neither did civilians in Germany and Japan.
"Game Of Thrones" is a great title for that series. It's warring gangs fighting each other using us as cannon fodder. We civilians shouldn't be made complicit in their crimes when all we want to do is survive their game.
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This is why concentrations of power must be watched carefully and constrained from overreach. That fireplace of yours could burn down the whole building if you let it get out of your control.
I don't understand why we've allowed this lazy thinking to take control.
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Re: Miller could actually be a real benifit to society.
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Add in that this affair has gone on for months since his first suit's filing, yet he's still ignorant of this?
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At which point he claims martyrdom: "See? They're out to get me!" Sadly, there's plenty of sponge brains out there who'll line up on his side (cf. Kim Davis).
I'm hoping he's looking a massive coronary or stroke straight in the eye in the not too distant future; evolution in action. It's getting very tedious having to share my planet with the likes of this.
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That's not exclusively a US military thing. Even Himmler found the mechanics of the Holocaust distasteful. Those concentration camp guards were kept drunk in hopes of maintaining their grip on sanity.
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I don't why you find this problematic. Propaganda's been used as a weapon of war forever. This includes the Bible.
There were official mouthpieces in both Japan and Germany whose job was to sow dissension in the ranks of the enemy. This even became a powerful meme in many Hollywood movies. I believe Germany's was a Brit who was even tried at Nuremburg after the war. I don't recall what happened to Japan's, but there were some who insisted she was forced to do it against her will.
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There's a lot more idiots out there than knowledgeable thinking people. This is the same problem that democracy has. We get what they want, no matter how repellent or odious. We're hostages to all their vices. HRC/Cruz/Jeb/Trump, Walmart, Wall St., Democrat Hawks/Neocons/AIPAC, ...
The more I look at it, the less I believe we ever escaped feudalism, or even the Roman Empire. "Rome is the mob!" -- Gladiator.
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What's next? "Sir, you're using your fork wrong!"
"I'm left-handed."
"You'll have to come with me sir."
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Thank the MBAs for gaining us this insight. We're in a race to the bottom, didn't you know? They learned all their insights from playing musical chairs in kindergarten. When the music stops, you need to have already grabbed onto your chair.
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My, what a compliant little consumer you are. Such a cutie!
What? Are you actually suggesting ignorance *isn't* bliss?!? Well, I never. I want my money back (or sumfin)!
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I'm glad you survived. I hope your friend isn't credulous enough to blindly trust that thing. People have driven onto train tracks and off cliffs believing the things were infallible. Companies the size of Apple get this wrong.
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Ya know, I can even believe they have no idea that they're building tyranny. They likely honestly believe they're doing this stuff to protect the country from Visigoths invading from all sides.
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