Trump has once again shown the world that he's unable to lead in anything that matters.
Trump has addressed one type of use of force, choke holds and nothing else. Even on that front he's left a police swat team sized hole. Trump's restriction on a use of force technique by the police is still allowed when an officer subjectively feels that his live is in danger. Which judging by how often our police forces in this country claim is the case must mean we have the most scared cops on the planet.
Of course Trump didn't speak about anything substantial, just one technique that he's heard about a lot recently (probably on Fox News). There's also the case of police running people over, and the ever popular shooting people. You know, shooting; beaten down homeless people, people sleeping in their beds, children, and the family dog. He might have mentioned something about that. Before I forget, there are the people fleeing cops, with or without a weapon.
Rayshard Brooks was running away from the police with a stolen taser. Remember, this is the same instrument that police have spent years swearing up and down is a non-lethal weapon (if you discount all those unfortunate cases of excited delirium of course). In the hands of a cop it's non-lethal, but in the hands of a young black man, well I am sure you can understand how it would magically transform into a lethal weapon.
If Trump was 0.01% of the President he thinks that he is in his own mind he would be backing the current Democratic bill in the House on police reform. He would express remorse, try to bring the country together and admit that the time has come for real reform in this country.
But who am I kidding. According to Trump, the real civil rights issue of our day, our year, our (large trumpian time span) is SCHOOL CHOICE. Yep, you heard that right. People have been matching in the streets (in the midst of a pandemic no less), not to protest systemic racism and a law enforcement that has oppressed people of all colors (non-whites most of all), but to protest for the right of elite members of society to siphon money from our public educational system (that provides the education for most of society) in order to subsidize the education of their already privileged children.
Of course, what was I thinking, it all makes perfect sense now.... not.
“Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
I think you might need to go back to school. I wrote;
"We don't need to defund the DEA, we need to abolish them."
That's the DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency), not the USA.
Other than that, there isn't much point in addressing the multitude of ad hominem attacks. If you have a coherent argument on why we should keep the DEA, please present it. I am sure we would all like to read it.
It's well past time to defund the DEA, that misbegotten spawn of the prohibition era. Alcohol was made illegal and we got a massive law enforcement apparatus built to enforce it. When alcohol was made legal again, we couldn't just disband a perfectly good law enforcement agency now could we? Let's just restask them.
We don't need to defund the DEA, we need to abolish them. Legalize all drugs. Treat them like alcohol and tobacco (and increasingly like marijuana) and regulate them. Just as most organized alcohol based crime went away with the end of prohibition, the same will happen when other substances become legal.
All that the DEA has managed to do is:
waste billions of dollars that could have been better spent elsewhere
fill up our jails and prisons
erode our constitutional rights
empower police and other law enforcement agencies to act like thugs
The DEA has long since past any usefulness they might have ever had.
I would agree if the bible (pick one, there are many) was the result of God telling someone to take a note and they just took divine dictation. It's a collection of works written by a variety of people over many many years. Even then, it was a gathered into a book by people.
Personally I believe that the bible in it's current form tells us more of our understanding of God and how that's changed and grown over time as opposed to any conflict between the father and the son or how he/they would need to "...get on the same page."
Remember:
"Any God small enough for you to understand, isn't big enough for the job."
There are far too many people these days claiming to be Christians, who don't act terribly Christian.
Four of the Gospels (Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John) all contain something similar to these words purported to come from Jesus: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
So basically, if you're a Christian and you follow the above faithfully, you're all set.
Re: Re: the National Guard is *trained* in crowd control...
I see your Posse Comitatus Act and raise you an Insurrection Act ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807 ) which gives the president the power to use the armed forces domestically. Traditionally with the request of the state legislation or governor.
Whether or not trump's actions would legally fall within the confines of the Insurrection Act remain to be seen.
The problem with the original poster is that he's confusing two different religions just because they happen to be in the same book.
aerinai started with a reference to Jesus from Christianity, when wevrem pointed out that he/she believed that Jesus would never condone harming people (or animals), aerinai tried to rebut it with a reference to Judaism.
My points are:
Judaism and Christianity are two different religions
to Christians the old testament rules no longer apply (stoning and animal sacrifice are completely out for example)
what man's understanding of what God may have done (from the old testament, especially to Christians) isn't indicative of what Christians, following the teachings of Jesus, should be doing.
the National Guard is *trained* in crowd control...
The Army National Guard at least receives explicit training in handling protests, crowd control, and riots. Unfortunately, as we have seen with various police forces, what they do with that training is often times something else entirely. Sadly it appears that Minnesota's National Guard aren't any better at respecting people's rights than the Minnesota State Police or the Minneapolis police were.
Personally I am much more concerned with the prospect of the Army or Marines being called out to fire on American citizens. Hopefully our military leaders refuse to follow any unlawful orders given to them by our commander in chief.
I hate to be pedantic, but you are quoting from the wrong testament. The original poster was quoting from the new testament, and your rebuttal is from the old testament. If you have read the Bible you would perhaps have noticed that the god of the old testament bares little resemblance to that of the new.
Contrary to what many may think, Jesus did away with many of the strictures of the old testament. It's why, unlike Jewish men, Christians are not required to be circumcised. Nor do Christians feel the need to sacrifice small animals to atone for their sins, since the death and resurrection of Christ put an end to that. At least as far as Christians are concerned.
If you want to try and use Christian teachings to rebut a Christian example, you'll have better luck with the portion of the bible that reflects the teachings of Jesus as opposed to their shared history with the Jews.
In this case it was just one officer that did the bad (illegal,immoral, evil) thing. His buddies just stood around and watched. A man accused of committing a crime. He never did get his day in court did he? Perhaps in your mind non-white == guilty when accused.
You would have to be willfully blind not to see just how out of control our law enforcement personnel have become. Every day there are reports of cops killing bystanders, stealing property, or just making things up. On a good day, all three (hello there Gerald Goines down in Houston). Don't even get me started on how many family dogs are shot and killed, just because they can.
Unfortunately the system is working as designed. It's designed to enforce high justice for the wealthy and well connected, and low justice for everyone else. Cops benefit the most from the current situation. We have legislators writing laws that protect them, and we have courts that go out of their way to excuse their actions. That is of course assuming that it ever gets that far. Most police departments clear their own, and the worse most bad apples can expect to endure is a paid vacation.
So when there's a no-knock raid, complete with flash bangs and riot gear to deliver unpaid utility bills, when cops completely demolish someone's home (after they've been given the keys to the front door), when cops think that the most effective means to help a mentally unstable person perched on a ledge threatening suicide is to taser them, your excuse that is's just a few bad apples rings hollow.
Yes, riots are counterproductive (in my opinion anyway). Mainly because they are often aimed at the wrong targets and co-opted by those who just revel in the chaos (like our current President unfortunately). I believe if you are going to riot, it needs to be against your oppressors; cops, and their buildings, vehicles, and enablers. Smashing bodegas, and burning Target in the end doesn't really accomplish much, except show the world that you are really really angry and don't have an appropriate outlet for your anger.
If the men in blue were the protectors you try to make them out to be, they would be protecting the little mom and pop stores (and the Targets). Instead they are indiscriminately shooting peaceful protesters and rioters alike. Arresting and attacking journalists (who have clearly identified themselves as such) for the sin of doing their jobs and reporting on what's going on.
Racism is a matter of perspective and location. It is much much worse in some parts of the country than in others. It's also dependent on whether or not you or someone you know/love are non-white. Finally, it's a matter of class, how rich or poor you are. If you are Kanye West, your experience with racism is probably going to differ from a black homeless man in skid row. But to say that is isn't nearly as bad as everyone thinks it is, well that's just way too much fail.
I believe the larger problem wasn't the anti-cheat software itself, even if it was created by Denuvo, it was how Id/Bethesda chose to implement it.
The developer either knew or strongly suspected that it would be unpopular with a significant portion of the gaming community. So, instead of including it at launch, where people would have known and potentially avoided the title for that reason, they tried to pull a fast one and add it post purchase as an update.
They got caught with their fingers in the cookie jar and had their hand slapped. Hopefully it's enough to prevent them from trying it again. At least in the near term.
If you look at the EFF page ( https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/10/google-changes-its-tune-when-it-comes-tracking-students ) discussing things, it looks like Google was tracking students via their student [Google Apps for Education] accounts and then using that data to build a profile used to market to them when the were using any other Google service outside of a very limited number that Google claimed were covered by their pledge.
Google initially argued that technically they were abiding by their privacy agreement, they didn't show ads within the Google Apps for Education apps.
Apparently in response to the EFF complaint they have stopped collecting data on student accounts. So while Mr. Hood may be able to complain about the past, it isn't ongoing. Other than some sort of monetary fine, there isn't anything for the courts to do.
When Google says that they have never and would never build such a system for the government they aren't strictly speaking lying.
They wouldn't have had to as they already have one. What do you think scans all of your GMail as part of their advertising operations?
Now I'm not saying that Google has been re-purposing their exiting software to serve the NSA or other LEO's, but it wouldn't be the first time government actors piggybacked on existing advertising infrastructure. Some of the documents released by Snowden outlined the NSA doing just that.
Perhaps Yahoo just found a way to get the government to pay for building the software to let them do with their email what Google's been doing with GMail all along.
Just like in the music industry, a blanket compulsory license to all major manufactures would limit their ability to discriminate like they currently can.
As things stand, they can demand that Tivo remove certain features, or not allow any content at all on Apple TV if they want. If the FCC's plan goes through, as long as the consumer has a cable subscription and that cable subscription includes those channels/movies, they can no longer say that XBOX and Roku are O.K., but PS3/4 and Apple TV are out.
The MPAA are all about the windows; staggered releases, different pricing depending on format and geography are unfortunately all to common.
Personally, the sooner we get to the point where they either release it everywhere at once or not at all, the better off we will all be.
I think people are getting a little too worked up a little too early in the process. This is a Motion to Dismiss, which [IANAL] I believe means that the judge is required to look at things in a way that is most favourable to the other party.
All the judge is basically saying is that if you squint and tilt your head sideways they might have a case. That's all they need to survive a motion to dismiss.
It might not be likely, but it's possible that Google maliciously removed this company from their search results and erroneously accused them of breaking one or more of Google's policies as the reason for that removal.
Because it might be true, he can't dismiss the case at this stage. This doesn't mean that they are right and Google's wrong, just that it's too early in the process to decide that.
While it's true that classical encryption won't let them have a system that's both completely secure and allows law enforcement to get at the unencrypted contents, there is such a system:
Quantum Encryption
Just like Schrödinger's cat, the data will be both encrypted and plaintext at the same time.
If presented with the owner's key or law enforcement's warrant the quantum encryption wave function will collapse into plaintext. For everyone else (especially the bad guys) the wave function will collapse into a state of encrypted data.
So, Senators Richard Burr and Dianne Feinstein are right. As soon as we get our brightest minds to develop this special blend of mathematics, quantum physics, and computer science everyone will be both safe and private.
On the post: Trump's 'Safe Policing' Executive Order Does Nothing To Address The Root Causes Of Police Misconduct
Trump's unable to lead.... in well anything
Trump has once again shown the world that he's unable to lead in anything that matters.
Trump has addressed one type of use of force, choke holds and nothing else. Even on that front he's left a police swat team sized hole. Trump's restriction on a use of force technique by the police is still allowed when an officer subjectively feels that his live is in danger. Which judging by how often our police forces in this country claim is the case must mean we have the most scared cops on the planet.
Of course Trump didn't speak about anything substantial, just one technique that he's heard about a lot recently (probably on Fox News). There's also the case of police running people over, and the ever popular shooting people. You know, shooting; beaten down homeless people, people sleeping in their beds, children, and the family dog. He might have mentioned something about that. Before I forget, there are the people fleeing cops, with or without a weapon.
Rayshard Brooks was running away from the police with a stolen taser. Remember, this is the same instrument that police have spent years swearing up and down is a non-lethal weapon (if you discount all those unfortunate cases of excited delirium of course). In the hands of a cop it's non-lethal, but in the hands of a young black man, well I am sure you can understand how it would magically transform into a lethal weapon.
If Trump was 0.01% of the President he thinks that he is in his own mind he would be backing the current Democratic bill in the House on police reform. He would express remorse, try to bring the country together and admit that the time has come for real reform in this country.
But who am I kidding. According to Trump, the real civil rights issue of our day, our year, our (large trumpian time span) is SCHOOL CHOICE. Yep, you heard that right. People have been matching in the streets (in the midst of a pandemic no less), not to protest systemic racism and a law enforcement that has oppressed people of all colors (non-whites most of all), but to protest for the right of elite members of society to siphon money from our public educational system (that provides the education for most of society) in order to subsidize the education of their already privileged children.
Of course, what was I thinking, it all makes perfect sense now.... not.
On the post: DEA Wants In On The Fun, Asks DOJ To Give It Permission To Surveil George Floyd Protests
Truer words are no more applicable than today....
“Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
On the post: DEA Wants In On The Fun, Asks DOJ To Give It Permission To Surveil George Floyd Protests
Re: Re: It's well past time
I think you might need to go back to school. I wrote;
That's the DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency), not the USA.
Other than that, there isn't much point in addressing the multitude of ad hominem attacks. If you have a coherent argument on why we should keep the DEA, please present it. I am sure we would all like to read it.
On the post: DEA Wants In On The Fun, Asks DOJ To Give It Permission To Surveil George Floyd Protests
It's well past time
It's well past time to defund the DEA, that misbegotten spawn of the prohibition era. Alcohol was made illegal and we got a massive law enforcement apparatus built to enforce it. When alcohol was made legal again, we couldn't just disband a perfectly good law enforcement agency now could we? Let's just restask them.
We don't need to defund the DEA, we need to abolish them. Legalize all drugs. Treat them like alcohol and tobacco (and increasingly like marijuana) and regulate them. Just as most organized alcohol based crime went away with the end of prohibition, the same will happen when other substances become legal.
All that the DEA has managed to do is:
The DEA has long since past any usefulness they might have ever had.
On the post: Let's Stop Pretending Peaceful Demonstrations Will Fix The System. 'Peace Officers' Don't Give A Shit About Peace.
Never more applicable than now...
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."[John F. Kennedy March 1962]
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."[George Santayana, 1905]
On the post: Let's Stop Pretending Peaceful Demonstrations Will Fix The System. 'Peace Officers' Don't Give A Shit About Peace.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [just a thought]
I would agree if the bible (pick one, there are many) was the result of God telling someone to take a note and they just took divine dictation. It's a collection of works written by a variety of people over many many years. Even then, it was a gathered into a book by people.
Personally I believe that the bible in it's current form tells us more of our understanding of God and how that's changed and grown over time as opposed to any conflict between the father and the son or how he/they would need to "...get on the same page."
Remember:
"Any God small enough for you to understand, isn't big enough for the job."
On the post: Let's Stop Pretending Peaceful Demonstrations Will Fix The System. 'Peace Officers' Don't Give A Shit About Peace.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [just a thought]
Sadly all too true.
There are far too many people these days claiming to be Christians, who don't act terribly Christian.
Four of the Gospels (Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John) all contain something similar to these words purported to come from Jesus:
“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”So basically, if you're a Christian and you follow the above faithfully, you're all set.
On the post: The Military Is Being Tapped To Handle Domestic Protests, Something It's Not Really Equipped To Handle
Re: Re: the National Guard is *trained* in crowd control...
I see your Posse Comitatus Act and raise you an Insurrection Act ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act_of_1807 ) which gives the president the power to use the armed forces domestically. Traditionally with the request of the state legislation or governor.
Whether or not trump's actions would legally fall within the confines of the Insurrection Act remain to be seen.
On the post: Let's Stop Pretending Peaceful Demonstrations Will Fix The System. 'Peace Officers' Don't Give A Shit About Peace.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [just a thought]
in a word yes.
The problem with the original poster is that he's confusing two different religions just because they happen to be in the same book.
aerinai started with a reference to Jesus from Christianity, when wevrem pointed out that he/she believed that Jesus would never condone harming people (or animals), aerinai tried to rebut it with a reference to Judaism.
My points are:
On the post: The Military Is Being Tapped To Handle Domestic Protests, Something It's Not Really Equipped To Handle
the National Guard is *trained* in crowd control...
The Army National Guard at least receives explicit training in handling protests, crowd control, and riots. Unfortunately, as we have seen with various police forces, what they do with that training is often times something else entirely. Sadly it appears that Minnesota's National Guard aren't any better at respecting people's rights than the Minnesota State Police or the Minneapolis police were.
Personally I am much more concerned with the prospect of the Army or Marines being called out to fire on American citizens. Hopefully our military leaders refuse to follow any unlawful orders given to them by our commander in chief.
On the post: Let's Stop Pretending Peaceful Demonstrations Will Fix The System. 'Peace Officers' Don't Give A Shit About Peace.
Re: Re: Re: Re: [just a thought]
I hate to be pedantic, but you are quoting from the wrong testament. The original poster was quoting from the new testament, and your rebuttal is from the old testament. If you have read the Bible you would perhaps have noticed that the god of the old testament bares little resemblance to that of the new.
Contrary to what many may think, Jesus did away with many of the strictures of the old testament. It's why, unlike Jewish men, Christians are not required to be circumcised. Nor do Christians feel the need to sacrifice small animals to atone for their sins, since the death and resurrection of Christ put an end to that. At least as far as Christians are concerned.
If you want to try and use Christian teachings to rebut a Christian example, you'll have better luck with the portion of the bible that reflects the teachings of Jesus as opposed to their shared history with the Jews.
Just a thought...
On the post: Let's Stop Pretending Peaceful Demonstrations Will Fix The System. 'Peace Officers' Don't Give A Shit About Peace.
Re: [just way too much fail]
In this case it was just one officer that did the bad (illegal,immoral, evil) thing. His buddies just stood around and watched. A man accused of committing a crime. He never did get his day in court did he? Perhaps in your mind non-white == guilty when accused.
You would have to be willfully blind not to see just how out of control our law enforcement personnel have become. Every day there are reports of cops killing bystanders, stealing property, or just making things up. On a good day, all three (hello there Gerald Goines down in Houston). Don't even get me started on how many family dogs are shot and killed, just because they can.
Unfortunately the system is working as designed. It's designed to enforce high justice for the wealthy and well connected, and low justice for everyone else. Cops benefit the most from the current situation. We have legislators writing laws that protect them, and we have courts that go out of their way to excuse their actions. That is of course assuming that it ever gets that far. Most police departments clear their own, and the worse most bad apples can expect to endure is a paid vacation.
So when there's a no-knock raid, complete with flash bangs and riot gear to deliver unpaid utility bills, when cops completely demolish someone's home (after they've been given the keys to the front door), when cops think that the most effective means to help a mentally unstable person perched on a ledge threatening suicide is to taser them, your excuse that is's just a few bad apples rings hollow.
Yes, riots are counterproductive (in my opinion anyway). Mainly because they are often aimed at the wrong targets and co-opted by those who just revel in the chaos (like our current President unfortunately). I believe if you are going to riot, it needs to be against your oppressors; cops, and their buildings, vehicles, and enablers. Smashing bodegas, and burning Target in the end doesn't really accomplish much, except show the world that you are really really angry and don't have an appropriate outlet for your anger.
If the men in blue were the protectors you try to make them out to be, they would be protecting the little mom and pop stores (and the Targets). Instead they are indiscriminately shooting peaceful protesters and rioters alike. Arresting and attacking journalists (who have clearly identified themselves as such) for the sin of doing their jobs and reporting on what's going on.
Racism is a matter of perspective and location. It is much much worse in some parts of the country than in others. It's also dependent on whether or not you or someone you know/love are non-white. Finally, it's a matter of class, how rich or poor you are. If you are Kanye West, your experience with racism is probably going to differ from a black homeless man in skid row. But to say that is isn't nearly as bad as everyone thinks it is, well that's just way too much fail.
On the post: Denuvo's Anti-Cheat Software Now Getting Ripped From Games At Record Speed Too
It's more than that...
I believe the larger problem wasn't the anti-cheat software itself, even if it was created by Denuvo, it was how Id/Bethesda chose to implement it.
The developer either knew or strongly suspected that it would be unpopular with a significant portion of the gaming community. So, instead of including it at launch, where people would have known and potentially avoided the title for that reason, they tried to pull a fast one and add it post purchase as an update.
They got caught with their fingers in the cookie jar and had their hand slapped. Hopefully it's enough to prevent them from trying it again. At least in the near term.
On the post: Google Hating Mississippi Attorney General Sues Company... With Ammo From EFF
Google stopped....
If you look at the EFF page ( https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/10/google-changes-its-tune-when-it-comes-tracking-students ) discussing things, it looks like Google was tracking students via their student [Google Apps for Education] accounts and then using that data to build a profile used to market to them when the were using any other Google service outside of a very limited number that Google claimed were covered by their pledge.
Google initially argued that technically they were abiding by their privacy agreement, they didn't show ads within the Google Apps for Education apps.
Apparently in response to the EFF complaint they have stopped collecting data on student accounts. So while Mr. Hood may be able to complain about the past, it isn't ongoing. Other than some sort of monetary fine, there isn't anything for the courts to do.
On the post: Basically All Big Tech Companies Deny Scanning Communications For NSA Like Yahoo Is Doing
They are just not doing it for the government....
They wouldn't have had to as they already have one. What do you think scans all of your GMail as part of their advertising operations?
Now I'm not saying that Google has been re-purposing their exiting software to serve the NSA or other LEO's, but it wouldn't be the first time government actors piggybacked on existing advertising infrastructure. Some of the documents released by Snowden outlined the NSA doing just that.
Perhaps Yahoo just found a way to get the government to pay for building the software to let them do with their email what Google's been doing with GMail all along.
On the post: MPAA Freaks Out In Response To FCC's Revised Set Top Box Plan
Compulsary licensing closes some windows
As things stand, they can demand that Tivo remove certain features, or not allow any content at all on Apple TV if they want. If the FCC's plan goes through, as long as the consumer has a cable subscription and that cable subscription includes those channels/movies, they can no longer say that XBOX and Roku are O.K., but PS3/4 and Apple TV are out.
The MPAA are all about the windows; staggered releases, different pricing depending on format and geography are unfortunately all to common.
Personally, the sooner we get to the point where they either release it everywhere at once or not at all, the better off we will all be.
On the post: Court Says Google Doesn't Have A First Amendment Right To Drop A Site From Its Search Results
Motion to Dismiss
All the judge is basically saying is that if you squint and tilt your head sideways they might have a case. That's all they need to survive a motion to dismiss.
It might not be likely, but it's possible that Google maliciously removed this company from their search results and erroneously accused them of breaking one or more of Google's policies as the reason for that removal.
Because it might be true, he can't dismiss the case at this stage. This doesn't mean that they are right and Google's wrong, just that it's too early in the process to decide that.
On the post: Senators Burr & Feinstein Write Ridiculous Ignorant Op-Ed To Go With Their Ridiculous Ignorant Bill
Quantum encryption will save them.
Just like Schrödinger's cat, the data will be both encrypted and plaintext at the same time.
If presented with the owner's key or law enforcement's warrant the quantum encryption wave function will collapse into plaintext. For everyone else (especially the bad guys) the wave function will collapse into a state of encrypted data.
So, Senators Richard Burr and Dianne Feinstein are right. As soon as we get our brightest minds to develop this special blend of mathematics, quantum physics, and computer science everyone will be both safe and private.
[ /sarc ]
On the post: Dov Seidman Now Suing His Agent Over The Use Of The Word 'How' By Third Party Ad Agency
I guess he should be careful about his representation as well.
On the post: The FCC Is Pushing A 'Nutrition Label' For Broadband Connections
the new normal.
You wrote:
Your advertised existing monthly broadband bill has now been relabelled profit.
The actual costs needed to build and sustain the service you are paying for are supported by all the fees they now charge.
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