The entertainment companies want copyright enforced. They have that right, by law.
There is already a system for enforcement in place. They want new ones. New horrible overreaching entirely unworkable and completely useless ones. They actually believe that if they are given the entire resources of the US (and others) government, they can win this war on piracy! Just like we won the war on drugs! Except the property is intangible and near impossible to track. Hmm..
If you don't like it, ask your elected representative to get copyright off the books.
I've tried that. I just get a form letter back. If I ever have a few spare million dollars to hire lobbiest, you can bet I'll do just that.
Please don't play dumb.
Why not? Don't you want someone to play with?
Adapt or die, as you would say.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!111! Repeating back thing that we say is not the same thing as understanding them. (Ha ha ha!!! I'm still laughing at this one!!! :D )
ICE could claim that the web domain is a property, and that property has committed a crime (by linking to piracy)
It's an interesting argument. The main flaw that I see (and I hope that someone in authority to make these determinations sees it too) is that there is no law suggesting that linking is a crime. At least not yet. So no crime has been committed by the domains that have been seized.
You can jerk yourselves off all you like with assertions of Constitutional violations, but until a court says it- it just doesn't matter.
Dude. You have weird proclivities if you associate constitution discussions with sexual arousal, even if it's indirectly.
Anyway, you're argument is: "It's not unconstitutional unless a court says it is." I'm going to give your analysis all the attention it deserves. Wow. That's dumb. Read your statement yourself and see if you can find out where you went wrong.
Ha! Why is your name FUDbuster when all you do is spread it.
I love how you pretend that it's a foregone conclusion that these seizures are unconstitutional. You full well know that it's not so black-and-white and that no court has ever ruled either way.
Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. Your post is the very definition of the later two, as you are spreading uncertainty and doubt. As for the fear part, I think ICE already has that covered.
It's funny how the 'pirates' seem to understand the constitution better than the ICE.
1. The Government Seizes The Domains Without Prior Notice And Hearing.
2. Seizures of Protected Speech Without a Hearing Violates The First Amendment.
3. There Is No Concern That The Accused Will Flee With Their Domains.
4. There Is An Unacceptable Risk Of Wrongful Seizure.
5. Targeted Sites Are Not Given An Immediate Opportunity To Reclaim Their Domain.
Any of these items would indicate that the seizures are not lawful, but taken all together, ICE seems to be skating on thin, well. Ice.
It was obviously written for the perspective of someone who has never spend years creating something of value that many people want
How about written from the perspective of someone who is sick and tired of creativity being all about lawsuits. There is more creativity in the way copyright law is asserted than there is in 98% of the movies made by Hollywood last year.
Or it could be written from the perspective of someone who is sick and tired of the whining from the creators who only want total control of their "property". I absolutely support you in your quest for total control. Next time you create something, keep it to yourself.
Honestly. Let go of your government charity and stop acting like the universe has entitled you charge money for rehashing some story that was written and rewritten centuries ago.
customers willing to pay = market
customers not willing to pay != market
if market >= cost to produce product then product = valid
if market < cost to produce product then product = invalid
You won't make any money wishing the market behaved differently, and the standard industry response of seeking-rents to increase their revenue has become ineffective.
The only thing new is ICE inventing new powers for itself. They can't have case law or any law to back them up because there isn't any. If they want new laws to give them these powers they need congress to pass some. I really think they were expecting that to happen and proceeded as if it already had. But it didn't, and now they are trying to justify their actions by twisting existing laws until they snap.
I think it's exactly that bad. In the magazine cover, the only thing copied is the feel of it. Somehow, the publisher thinks it should be able to copyright a feeling.
If you write a screenplay that duplicates the Twilight movie without using the same character names or any of the dialog, then I would say there isn't a problem. It then becomes a question of who did it better? What's wrong with that?
I gotta say it's really discouraging to see that non-literal copying is recognized in law. It completely goes against the concept that you can't copyright an idea. Is it really that much of a problem that one work has the same ideas as another? That's really the history of creativity, isn't it?
I was going to mark you funny, but then reread and found from the tone that you may have been serious. I think you invented a new term "non-literal copying". So should they be sued for non-literal infringement? I mean, they weren't literally infringing, just figuratively.
It all smacks of grade-school-type complaining. "Judge! Timmy copied my idea!"
So a human warrior encounters a draenei female. She gets a sign from the Naaru that he is special, so she offers him an escort quest in which he must follow her back to her village without aggroing any mobs. Once he completes the quest and speaks with the faction leaders (one of whom is a draenei shaman), he goes from unfriendly to neutral. He then completes a series of quests every day which raise his esteem, or reputation, with the faction. Quests include the typical 'go here and kill this' types as well as gathering quests.
Once he reaches honored status, he is offered a quest which gives him his ground mount. Completing ground mount quest opens new dailies. After grinding those, he reaches revered and he must travel to Nagrand(!) to the floating rocks there and complete a quest for his flying mount. After some more daily quest grinding he reaches exalted and is accepted as a member of the faction. The most important faction reward is that the Epic Flight quest chain is unlocked, in which is he awarded a bigger, badder, faster, epic flying mount.
Finally he grows tired of playing a human warrior and pays Blizzard to change his race permanently to draenei. During the change, of course, his character is unavailable for play until the process is complete.
Blizzard should sue! Seems pretty cut and dried to me. Or maybe I just play too much.
I really wasn't offended. You have to have kind of a thick skin as a Mormon on the internet. There's a whole lot of vitriol out there directed at us. I only replied because I wanted to make clear my church is not my government. Our legislators might make decisions based on their beliefs, and they might consider themselves Mormon, but sometimes I would swear that they actually belong to some other church that shares nothing with mine except a name.
Thanks for the apology, though! Are we friends now? :)
I know your are just trolling, so I probably shouldn't even reply, but I know for a fact that my church has not advocated patenting microbes. Or warrantless searches. Or global warming denial.
You may have legitimate critisms of my religion, but I doubt any of them have a place in this discussion. Don't group it with these neo-conservative nutjobs.
As a Utahn, I don't know why we elect these wackos. Seriously, none of my neighbors or anyone else I've talked to support these positions. Why do our represetatives?
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There is already a system for enforcement in place. They want new ones. New horrible overreaching entirely unworkable and completely useless ones. They actually believe that if they are given the entire resources of the US (and others) government, they can win this war on piracy! Just like we won the war on drugs! Except the property is intangible and near impossible to track. Hmm..
If you don't like it, ask your elected representative to get copyright off the books.
I've tried that. I just get a form letter back. If I ever have a few spare million dollars to hire lobbiest, you can bet I'll do just that.
Please don't play dumb.
Why not? Don't you want someone to play with?
Adapt or die, as you would say.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!111! Repeating back thing that we say is not the same thing as understanding them. (Ha ha ha!!! I'm still laughing at this one!!! :D )
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High school flashback
How many times did you hear that one?
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Re: The constitutional
It's an interesting argument. The main flaw that I see (and I hope that someone in authority to make these determinations sees it too) is that there is no law suggesting that linking is a crime. At least not yet. So no crime has been committed by the domains that have been seized.
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Dude. You have weird proclivities if you associate constitution discussions with sexual arousal, even if it's indirectly.
Anyway, you're argument is: "It's not unconstitutional unless a court says it is." I'm going to give your analysis all the attention it deserves. Wow. That's dumb. Read your statement yourself and see if you can find out where you went wrong.
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I love how you pretend that it's a foregone conclusion that these seizures are unconstitutional. You full well know that it's not so black-and-white and that no court has ever ruled either way.
Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. Your post is the very definition of the later two, as you are spreading uncertainty and doubt. As for the fear part, I think ICE already has that covered.
It's funny how the 'pirates' seem to understand the constitution better than the ICE.
1. The Government Seizes The Domains Without Prior Notice And Hearing.
2. Seizures of Protected Speech Without a Hearing Violates The First Amendment.
3. There Is No Concern That The Accused Will Flee With Their Domains.
4. There Is An Unacceptable Risk Of Wrongful Seizure.
5. Targeted Sites Are Not Given An Immediate Opportunity To Reclaim Their Domain.
Any of these items would indicate that the seizures are not lawful, but taken all together, ICE seems to be skating on thin, well. Ice.
In depth reasoning on each point here: http://torrentfreak.com/5-reasons-why-the-us-domain-seizures-are-unconstitutional-110312/
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Much Too Imaginary
How about written from the perspective of someone who is sick and tired of creativity being all about lawsuits. There is more creativity in the way copyright law is asserted than there is in 98% of the movies made by Hollywood last year.
Or it could be written from the perspective of someone who is sick and tired of the whining from the creators who only want total control of their "property". I absolutely support you in your quest for total control. Next time you create something, keep it to yourself.
Honestly. Let go of your government charity and stop acting like the universe has entitled you charge money for rehashing some story that was written and rewritten centuries ago.
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As much as I'd like them to get it...
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Marketing 101
customers not willing to pay != market
if market >= cost to produce product then product = valid
if market < cost to produce product then product = invalid
You won't make any money wishing the market behaved differently, and the standard industry response of seeking-rents to increase their revenue has become ineffective.
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Re: Re: Um, case law?
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If you write a screenplay that duplicates the Twilight movie without using the same character names or any of the dialog, then I would say there isn't a problem. It then becomes a question of who did it better? What's wrong with that?
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Ha!
It all smacks of grade-school-type complaining. "Judge! Timmy copied my idea!"
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Nicely said
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I thought it was a World of Warcraft movie...
Once he reaches honored status, he is offered a quest which gives him his ground mount. Completing ground mount quest opens new dailies. After grinding those, he reaches revered and he must travel to Nagrand(!) to the floating rocks there and complete a quest for his flying mount. After some more daily quest grinding he reaches exalted and is accepted as a member of the faction. The most important faction reward is that the Epic Flight quest chain is unlocked, in which is he awarded a bigger, badder, faster, epic flying mount.
Finally he grows tired of playing a human warrior and pays Blizzard to change his race permanently to draenei. During the change, of course, his character is unavailable for play until the process is complete.
Blizzard should sue! Seems pretty cut and dried to me. Or maybe I just play too much.
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Re: Even Bigger Sigh
Thanks for the apology, though! Are we friends now? :)
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Even Bigger Sigh
You may have legitimate critisms of my religion, but I doubt any of them have a place in this discussion. Don't group it with these neo-conservative nutjobs.
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Big Sigh
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