It is specifically used, NOT so much for punishing the victim - as its most often a quick death - but to scare the witnesses.
Most forms of public execution are designed to frighten the witnesses into obedience or compliance, or in this case, simply to frighten them into renewing their support for the multi-billion dollar a year Anti-Terrorist Businesses and Tax Fed Government Operations in the US and Britain.
The CIA - when not masquerading as the enemy - has likely never used beheading as a means of murder, because they work in secret and do not display their actions. Such displays are always reserved for false flag operations such as this, where the CIA poses as the enemy.
However, to believe that the CIA has not committed multiple and mass murder in a variety of other fashions, is a fool's dream.
Personally, I thinks its far more likely that the reason ISIS is using the CIA's patented torture methods, is simply because its the CIA that's currently teaching them how to best scare the hell out of people.
Already its been shown that as much as 20% of ISIS's membership is made up of masked British citizens, who were recently threatened with the loss of those citizenships by the British government for being ISIS members.
How easily it would be for the CIA, (along with Special Ops forces, like the British Special Ops teams caught wearing Afghani Terrorist garb in Afghanistan), to once again, train another terrorist organization like Al Queda in the use of CIA terror methods, when everyone conveniently wears masks.
As I said before, you're all being Pearl Harbored again.
Hey, when your the government working under the secretly initiated War Measures Act, you can interpret and re-interpret ANY law in ANY way, as often as you like, in order to make it conform to whatever you need to get the job done. After all, one cannot allow one's own laws to interfere with the assault on the enemy, or in this case, the "adversary".
So constitution shmonstition - we got a war to win.
Favourite part of that movie actually, but I miss your point.
Ever since the US made conventional warfare obsolete by introducing nuclear weapons to the equation, its been impossible to get a decent sized war started when all of the big players have nukes. One cannot spend radio-active gold and raping radio-active women and children is not recommended by the military, so warfare and nukes simply do not mix well.
It has thus been absolutely necessary for the US Military Industrial Complex to earn its War-Bucks by waging war on tiny, disadvantaged, (usually Muslim) nations where the highest level of technology is the wheel, in order to insure that the victims of US corporate agression would not be able to retaliate in a nuclear fashion.
This is why they invented the Terrorist Crisis - so that attacking tiny villages with high explosive (but not nukes) bombs could be shown as defending America from the Invisible Terrorist Menace, rather than simply as testing million dollar bombs on innocent foreign peasants.
Great side effect of drone bombing tiny muslim villages is that the survivors will be really angry and thus make great photo-op images of the members of the Invisible Terrorist Menace you need the US Public to fear and loathe.
In lieu of having a really big war, its still a win win situation for the American Industrial War Machine.
Actually, after examining the images above of the documents and their "redactions", it appears as though they are simply loading the text files as jpgs into Microsoft's Paint program, or something similar, and using the box tool to cover whatever areas are deemed to be "not for public consumption".
Methinks they have found an economic method of redaction which means they expect to be doing a serious shit-load of redacting into the future and realize there probably isn't enough actual black ink available in the USA to do the job.
Re: Before we react to the content of the video...
Another Faked Video...... Makes complete sense.
Hollywood Terrorists make a Hollywood Beheading Movie.
After all, the idea is to scare the bejeezus outta Brit and Yank civilians and that's exactly what Hollywood has been trying to do for decades... usually gorier than the real thing too.
So the masked Brits are weapons and warfare training experts and the masked Americans are Hollywood directors and special effects technicians.
Just heard on - of all places - the TV, that a large percentage of the ISIS is made up of Brits!!
Well hooda thunk it eh. :)
Seems they wear those masks because they really aint what they appear to be. Wonder how many of them are Yanks.
Eventually they'll make enough mistakes that even die hard US & Brit "Capital P" patriots will be unable to avoid the obvious.
In the meantime, lots of folks will be killed and maimed for the sake of instilling terror into the hearts of American and British civilians, so the fascists they trust can carry on carrying on, while the public begs them to take away the last of their rights - for their own protection.
So, no more thinking now! Back under the bed, quickly, before the spanking brand new Hollywood boogie man sneaks into your bedrooms. After all, you're paying for the new boogie-man's masks, guns, bombs, videos and wages, so you might as well act the part of the terrorized public and get your money's worth.
I was thinking more along the lines of redundancy than integrity, but you're likely correct in that an outside public watchdog would be needed, considering the levels they have already reached in their dereliction of duty and destruction of evidence.
I saw the PD HQ connection as a back-up, since cops generally keep their HQ informed of their whereabouts and their actions anyway, simply for their own safety.
If a cop reports his/her intended actions to HQ, then both the body cam and the HQ monitor system record the events as they unfold. Losing BOTH copies should alert an honest court to intentional obfuscation.
Of course, if a cop turns the camera off, all you have is the report that the cop turned the camera off. I suppose the cameras could be manufactured without an OFF button to prevent this. But then the cops will simply smash them against a wall, or crush them underfoot, unless they're made to extremely damage resistant standards.
Of course, truly criminal cops who use their badge as a pry-bar to extort money, drugs and services from people and steal shit, won't report their intentions to HQ anyway, so only those in cruisers would be affected by the automatic on switch when leaving the vehicle.
Lots of "IF/THEN"s of course, that only time and experience might solve....
Perhaps the best way to get cops to use these devices properly, is to start a TV show called COPCAM, and air the best "positive" clips 5 days a week in a one hour show, naming and profiling the individual cops whose clips are aired.
If we can't trust their integrity, perhaps we can use their lust for notoriety and fame.
Police Body Cams should automatically trigger upon the cop leaving the vehicle, for all patrol-car based cops. The triggering should also alert the PD HQ and show a broadcast of the event on a monitor there.
Pedestrian Cops should have their cameras triggered as soon as they radio in their intentions to investigate something, and the feed should be displayed at PD HQ as well.
In both cases, there should be a manual ON switch to allow a cop to record any event at any time and all such records are again broadcast directly to a monitor at PD HQ.
Turning the camera OFF should signal a report to the PD HQ that a unit has been disabled. PD HQ has the ability to turn any unit On or OFF remotely.
All such body cameras and HQ monitor units should have a 4 terabyte hard drive minimum.
Oh how I wish what you wrote was true. But, it is you that is dreaming, not I.
Elections will, as always, get you only the newest brand of corporate clown, who will do to you precisely what Nixon, Bush, Reagan, Clinton and now Obama have done. Talk sweet and pick your pocket.
You state that they will not resign willingly. Did you think then that they would leave a loophole that the people could use to fire them, such as an election? Get serious.
Do you really believe they have NOT fixed the elections in such a fashion as to insure the outcome?
Its the Vote Counters, not the Vote Casters, who (s)elect the winner.
I cannot believe you can be old enough to have witnessed the 2 faked elections of GWBush and still not realize that elections are simply a placebo designed to make the public think they are participating in the creation of their government.
Elections are now simply Selections, made by Corporate American for Corporate America.
The Vote is merely the best way to blame the results on the American Public.
Its funny in a way that you should mention "shoot them" as an alternative to dissolving their jobs, because in truth, that just might end up being what they do to YOU.
Did you think they were militarizing the police across the USA in preparation for an alien invasion from Mars - a Hollywood REDs invasion by Russians or Chinese via helicopter.... Godzilla??
But really, the give away in your missive above is this line:
"You want to treat them like an employee you're letting go, fine. What do you do to the ones who won't leave, which is probably going to be, oh I don't know, all of them?"
Did you forget that they ARE supposed to be employees of the American People? Even you now realize that they will no longer obey the laws that govern the conduct of "elected" officials and will simply refuse to go quietly into obscurity.
Even you know that there is no legal procedure available to the American Public to rid itself of bad government.
Down deep you already know that an election is as futile as pissing into the wind, but your still too afraid to admit the awful truth.
Your government no longer works for you.
It is now a corporate entity designed to milk the American People of their tax money and use it keep them in chains until they are no longer needed, and then they will be disposed of like old broken machinery.
Vote all you want. It will change absolutely nothing, save the name of your oppressors' figurehead.
I think you're looking at this backwards actually.
False Arrest is the easiest way to disenfranchise any civilian that you don't like, or that interferes with business as usual, or just for the sheer joy of destroying people's lives.
It is set up legally so that any cop can pull it off on any person of limited means - the only type who are considered "adversaries" of the state in an Ownership Society - and the law absolutely protects the cop from any and all repercussions, while insuring that the innocent victim suffers the full extent of the law.
Did it ever occur to you that Liar IS his job classification?
After all, when you're pretending to be a government, you will obviously need a large number of silver tongued liars to keep the public believing that you really are a government.
I suspect his real internal title is Assistant Liar In Chief, since Liar In Chief is obviously reserved for the position of POTUS.
No criminal worth his salt is going to assist in the proving of his crimes. In the case of the NSA, you have a full "nest" of criminals hiding behind the legal barriers set up by the people who rewrote the laws so that they would protect only the guilty - themselves.
It is simply natural for them to use the methods at their disposal to prevent the public from discerning their misdeeds. The amount they use those methods - redaction, exclusion of and destruction of incriminating documents, etc., shows the depth and breadth of their criminal activity, albeit while preventing realization of the details. However the details are truly unimportant once you realize the goal and the methods being used to reach that goal.
For me, all of this merely points out the plain fact that government as we know it today, is completely obsolete and should be done away with altogether, perhaps replaced with something that actually answers to the people.
When you have a government whose only concern is self preservation, you actually have an enemy inside the gates, and in truth, you have no government at all. This has been the situation for decades almost globally - at least in the case of the members of the Five Eyes.
Since they have proven by their lack of participation in the running of the country, as it was designed to be run, and through their machinations to secure their own future, that the country can carry on quite well without a functioning government, they have in my opinion, signed their own resignation forms and should be dismissed with prejudice as soon as possible.
Surely, we of the present, can create a far better form of national management than that which has been passed down to us from centuries ago, and which has proven itself to be both incompetent, corrupt and a burden to those it pretends to support.
By the way, in case I wasn't plain enough, the above scenario means that it was your own government, and/or the British government, that decided to pull off the video beheading, strictly for its guaranteed Lucitania Effect.
I mean, hell, they blew up a marathon in Boston and hardly anyone crawled under their beds. Its time to up the ante and put the face of horror back on Terrorism... before people decide to put a stop to the waste of taxpayer's wealth called the War on Terror.
To keep those Multi-Billions of Tax Payer Dollars a Year coming in for the Phony War Against Non-existent Muslim Terrorists, the US and British Federal governments and their corporate cronies in power would happily kill thousands of British and American civilians.
Again.
And again.
And again.
You're all being Pearl Harboured once again folks.
He speaks real good, is sort of suave looking I guess, and he apparently doesn't know shit about anything his administration is doing at any time, until after he reads it here on TechDirt.
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It is specifically used, NOT so much for punishing the victim - as its most often a quick death - but to scare the witnesses.
Most forms of public execution are designed to frighten the witnesses into obedience or compliance, or in this case, simply to frighten them into renewing their support for the multi-billion dollar a year Anti-Terrorist Businesses and Tax Fed Government Operations in the US and Britain.
The CIA - when not masquerading as the enemy - has likely never used beheading as a means of murder, because they work in secret and do not display their actions. Such displays are always reserved for false flag operations such as this, where the CIA poses as the enemy.
However, to believe that the CIA has not committed multiple and mass murder in a variety of other fashions, is a fool's dream.
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December 7th is my birthday!!!
Personally, I thinks its far more likely that the reason ISIS is using the CIA's patented torture methods, is simply because its the CIA that's currently teaching them how to best scare the hell out of people.
Already its been shown that as much as 20% of ISIS's membership is made up of masked British citizens, who were recently threatened with the loss of those citizenships by the British government for being ISIS members.
How easily it would be for the CIA, (along with Special Ops forces, like the British Special Ops teams caught wearing Afghani Terrorist garb in Afghanistan), to once again, train another terrorist organization like Al Queda in the use of CIA terror methods, when everyone conveniently wears masks.
As I said before, you're all being Pearl Harbored again.
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Its all perfectly legal
So constitution shmonstition - we got a war to win.
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Re: Youtube warfare
Ever since the US made conventional warfare obsolete by introducing nuclear weapons to the equation, its been impossible to get a decent sized war started when all of the big players have nukes. One cannot spend radio-active gold and raping radio-active women and children is not recommended by the military, so warfare and nukes simply do not mix well.
It has thus been absolutely necessary for the US Military Industrial Complex to earn its War-Bucks by waging war on tiny, disadvantaged, (usually Muslim) nations where the highest level of technology is the wheel, in order to insure that the victims of US corporate agression would not be able to retaliate in a nuclear fashion.
This is why they invented the Terrorist Crisis - so that attacking tiny villages with high explosive (but not nukes) bombs could be shown as defending America from the Invisible Terrorist Menace, rather than simply as testing million dollar bombs on innocent foreign peasants.
Great side effect of drone bombing tiny muslim villages is that the survivors will be really angry and thus make great photo-op images of the members of the Invisible Terrorist Menace you need the US Public to fear and loathe.
In lieu of having a really big war, its still a win win situation for the American Industrial War Machine.
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Economics 101
Methinks they have found an economic method of redaction which means they expect to be doing a serious shit-load of redacting into the future and realize there probably isn't enough actual black ink available in the USA to do the job.
So.... Paint.
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Re: Before we react to the content of the video...
Makes complete sense.
Hollywood Terrorists make a Hollywood Beheading Movie.
After all, the idea is to scare the bejeezus outta Brit and Yank civilians and that's exactly what Hollywood has been trying to do for decades... usually gorier than the real thing too.
So the masked Brits are weapons and warfare training experts and the masked Americans are Hollywood directors and special effects technicians.
No surprises here.
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Re: Re: addendum
Just heard on - of all places - the TV, that a large percentage of the ISIS is made up of Brits!!
Well hooda thunk it eh. :)
Seems they wear those masks because they really aint what they appear to be. Wonder how many of them are Yanks.
Eventually they'll make enough mistakes that even die hard US & Brit "Capital P" patriots will be unable to avoid the obvious.
In the meantime, lots of folks will be killed and maimed for the sake of instilling terror into the hearts of American and British civilians, so the fascists they trust can carry on carrying on, while the public begs them to take away the last of their rights - for their own protection.
So, no more thinking now! Back under the bed, quickly, before the spanking brand new Hollywood boogie man sneaks into your bedrooms. After all, you're paying for the new boogie-man's masks, guns, bombs, videos and wages, so you might as well act the part of the terrorized public and get your money's worth.
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Re: Re: Suggestions
I saw the PD HQ connection as a back-up, since cops generally keep their HQ informed of their whereabouts and their actions anyway, simply for their own safety.
If a cop reports his/her intended actions to HQ, then both the body cam and the HQ monitor system record the events as they unfold. Losing BOTH copies should alert an honest court to intentional obfuscation.
Of course, if a cop turns the camera off, all you have is the report that the cop turned the camera off. I suppose the cameras could be manufactured without an OFF button to prevent this. But then the cops will simply smash them against a wall, or crush them underfoot, unless they're made to extremely damage resistant standards.
Of course, truly criminal cops who use their badge as a pry-bar to extort money, drugs and services from people and steal shit, won't report their intentions to HQ anyway, so only those in cruisers would be affected by the automatic on switch when leaving the vehicle.
Lots of "IF/THEN"s of course, that only time and experience might solve....
Perhaps the best way to get cops to use these devices properly, is to start a TV show called COPCAM, and air the best "positive" clips 5 days a week in a one hour show, naming and profiling the individual cops whose clips are aired.
If we can't trust their integrity, perhaps we can use their lust for notoriety and fame.
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Suggestions
Pedestrian Cops should have their cameras triggered as soon as they radio in their intentions to investigate something, and the feed should be displayed at PD HQ as well.
In both cases, there should be a manual ON switch to allow a cop to record any event at any time and all such records are again broadcast directly to a monitor at PD HQ.
Turning the camera OFF should signal a report to the PD HQ that a unit has been disabled. PD HQ has the ability to turn any unit On or OFF remotely.
All such body cameras and HQ monitor units should have a 4 terabyte hard drive minimum.
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I'd have thought this was exactly the sort of discussion his handlers would want to see disrupted.
Maybe they finally caught on that he was telling the truth by making his lies blatantly obvious, and fired his ass!
C'est la vie eh!
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Re: Re:
A truly enlightening post and a truly frightening example of what We The People have lost this century to the forces of fascism.
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Re: New think and old words
Fascinating how well one can do in an argument when everything your opponent says is actually the opposite of what he believes he is saying. :)
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Re: Re: Time for change
But, it is you that is dreaming, not I.
Elections will, as always, get you only the newest brand of corporate clown, who will do to you precisely what Nixon, Bush, Reagan, Clinton and now Obama have done. Talk sweet and pick your pocket.
You state that they will not resign willingly. Did you think then that they would leave a loophole that the people could use to fire them, such as an election? Get serious.
Do you really believe they have NOT fixed the elections in such a fashion as to insure the outcome?
Its the Vote Counters, not the Vote Casters, who (s)elect the winner.
I cannot believe you can be old enough to have witnessed the 2 faked elections of GWBush and still not realize that elections are simply a placebo designed to make the public think they are participating in the creation of their government.
Elections are now simply Selections, made by Corporate American for Corporate America.
The Vote is merely the best way to blame the results on the American Public.
Its funny in a way that you should mention "shoot them" as an alternative to dissolving their jobs, because in truth, that just might end up being what they do to YOU.
Did you think they were militarizing the police across the USA in preparation for an alien invasion from Mars - a Hollywood REDs invasion by Russians or Chinese via helicopter.... Godzilla??
But really, the give away in your missive above is this line:
"You want to treat them like an employee you're letting go, fine. What do you do to the ones who won't leave, which is probably going to be, oh I don't know, all of them?"
Did you forget that they ARE supposed to be employees of the American People? Even you now realize that they will no longer obey the laws that govern the conduct of "elected" officials and will simply refuse to go quietly into obscurity.
Even you know that there is no legal procedure available to the American Public to rid itself of bad government.
Down deep you already know that an election is as futile as pissing into the wind, but your still too afraid to admit the awful truth.
Your government no longer works for you.
It is now a corporate entity designed to milk the American People of their tax money and use it keep them in chains until they are no longer needed, and then they will be disposed of like old broken machinery.
Vote all you want. It will change absolutely nothing, save the name of your oppressors' figurehead.
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A matter of perspective
False Arrest is the easiest way to disenfranchise any civilian that you don't like, or that interferes with business as usual, or just for the sheer joy of destroying people's lives.
It is set up legally so that any cop can pull it off on any person of limited means - the only type who are considered "adversaries" of the state in an Ownership Society - and the law absolutely protects the cop from any and all repercussions, while insuring that the innocent victim suffers the full extent of the law.
This is not a mistake.
This is social engineering.
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After all, when you're pretending to be a government, you will obviously need a large number of silver tongued liars to keep the public believing that you really are a government.
I suspect his real internal title is Assistant Liar In Chief, since Liar In Chief is obviously reserved for the position of POTUS.
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Time for change
It is simply natural for them to use the methods at their disposal to prevent the public from discerning their misdeeds. The amount they use those methods - redaction, exclusion of and destruction of incriminating documents, etc., shows the depth and breadth of their criminal activity, albeit while preventing realization of the details. However the details are truly unimportant once you realize the goal and the methods being used to reach that goal.
For me, all of this merely points out the plain fact that government as we know it today, is completely obsolete and should be done away with altogether, perhaps replaced with something that actually answers to the people.
When you have a government whose only concern is self preservation, you actually have an enemy inside the gates, and in truth, you have no government at all. This has been the situation for decades almost globally - at least in the case of the members of the Five Eyes.
Since they have proven by their lack of participation in the running of the country, as it was designed to be run, and through their machinations to secure their own future, that the country can carry on quite well without a functioning government, they have in my opinion, signed their own resignation forms and should be dismissed with prejudice as soon as possible.
Surely, we of the present, can create a far better form of national management than that which has been passed down to us from centuries ago, and which has proven itself to be both incompetent, corrupt and a burden to those it pretends to support.
---
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addendum
I mean, hell, they blew up a marathon in Boston and hardly anyone crawled under their beds. Its time to up the ante and put the face of horror back on Terrorism... before people decide to put a stop to the waste of taxpayer's wealth called the War on Terror.
To keep those Multi-Billions of Tax Payer Dollars a Year coming in for the Phony War Against Non-existent Muslim Terrorists, the US and British Federal governments and their corporate cronies in power would happily kill thousands of British and American civilians.
Again.
And again.
And again.
You're all being Pearl Harboured once again folks.
---
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Re:
He speaks real good, is sort of suave looking I guess, and he apparently doesn't know shit about anything his administration is doing at any time, until after he reads it here on TechDirt.
Obviously the perfect man for the job.
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