Re: Toll Free / Zero Rated Data Apps = Likely 1st Amendment Free Speech
"With a network independent app, the mobile carrier literally can’t see whether the app requesting data from the network is subsidized or not by the app creator (the app acts to make the carrier “blind” as to which apps are subsidized and which are not — ergo no discrimination / app favoritism is possible). "
But that is favoritism. Just because it isn't the carriers directly deciding who is going to be granted privileged access doesn't mean there isn't a serious issue with the idea.
As an aside,, there's no way that the carriers wouldn't have a say about it. We can fully expect that they'll continue to be underhanded and deceptive just as they always have been.
Well, since it's an ad that Sprint bought and paid for, and presumably approved the use of, then yes -- why is it a bad thing to mock Sprint for something they did?
Which is truly hilarious, because it wasn't the people talking who decided that was the 30 seconds (or what was undoubtedly a few hours of footage) that should be edited into a commercial and aired.
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I mean "immoral" according to their own moral codes. In that worldview, they are not immoral at all. "Moral" is maximizing profit. "Immoral" is minimizing profit. "Amoral" would be not caring about profit one way or the other, I suppose.
I think that corporations do have a moral code, but it's a very simple one that is centered on profit-making. Given that we have decided to create artificial entities whose entire purpose is profit creation, it's hard to fault them for being so focused.
What I think is a problem is that we are allowing these companies to operate far too freely and to have far too much power. If we're going to pretend they're people, as they seem to want so badly, then we need to acknowledge that they are dangerous sociopaths.
This isn't about Sprint in particular, but is a mainstay fixture of tons of companies. They have no idea what "listening" means.
From that ad, it's clear they think "listening" means "holding a focus group". Which is wrong on many levels, but especially so when that focus group is clearly going to be fed a very nice meal afterwards (based on the place settings).
I honestly don't think they do. I suspect that they are True Believers in Absolute Capitalism, and so the only immoral or evil thing they could do is to allow potential profit to remain uncaptured.
Oh, I see our disconnect! You're saying that because New Balance offered a bribe in exchange for a "chance to compete" rather than for a guaranteed contract, then it's all good.
I disagree. They're both the same thing. Systemic corruption in action.
Someone should tell that to New Balance's public affairs VP:
“We swallowed the poison pill that is TPP so we could have a chance to bid on these contracts,” said Matt LeBretton, New Balance’s vice president of public affairs. “We were assured this would be a top-down approach at the Department of Defense if we agreed to either support or remain neutral on TPP. [But] the chances of the Department of Defense buying shoes that are made in the USA are slim to none while Obama is president.”
If it makes a company think twice about questionable actions in the future, then it probably helps someone, at least a little. Very, little, true, but it's all we got right now.
Your point here can be paraphrased as "It's the way it is, so sit down, shut up, and take it."
"Considering that every intelligence agency on the planet claimed that Iraq had WMD"
This is highly misleading. The US claimed that Iraq had WMD, and most everyone else pretty much just took that as proof and parroted the line. An awful lot of them even expressed doubts, but thought that maybe the US knew something they didn't.
But outside of governments (who had a bit of a conflict of interest on the matter), pretty much nobody thought it was actually true. Ans especially not the agencies who were in the best position to know.
I'm not watching it because of the one-two punch of it being both Disney and an Abrams project. While I'll admit that Star Wars is something Abrams is probably well-suited to do, I still haven't forgiven him for Star Trek.
I agree that systemic corruption is, by orders of magnitude, the largest problem we have -- and that it directly impacts literally everything else.
But fixing that corruption is something that will take a very long time, generations, if it's possible at all. In the meantime, we have to find a way to get on as best we can and work around as much of the corruption as possible.
Title II classification and the empowerment of the FCC around it is, as you say, nothing remotely like a panacea. But it would help some amount, and there's no other avenue open right now.
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Re: Toll Free / Zero Rated Data Apps = Likely 1st Amendment Free Speech
But that is favoritism. Just because it isn't the carriers directly deciding who is going to be granted privileged access doesn't mean there isn't a serious issue with the idea.
As an aside,, there's no way that the carriers wouldn't have a say about it. We can fully expect that they'll continue to be underhanded and deceptive just as they always have been.
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Re: Yes. Sprint sucks....but
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To you.
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Although the US has lots of laws that are based entirely on religion.
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Ominous
This sounds like they came up with an improved method of doing the same (or even worse) tracking. Probably one that's harder to notice.
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Which is truly hilarious, because it wasn't the people talking who decided that was the 30 seconds (or what was undoubtedly a few hours of footage) that should be edited into a commercial and aired.
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I think that corporations do have a moral code, but it's a very simple one that is centered on profit-making. Given that we have decided to create artificial entities whose entire purpose is profit creation, it's hard to fault them for being so focused.
What I think is a problem is that we are allowing these companies to operate far too freely and to have far too much power. If we're going to pretend they're people, as they seem to want so badly, then we need to acknowledge that they are dangerous sociopaths.
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The corporate idea of "listening"
From that ad, it's clear they think "listening" means "holding a focus group". Which is wrong on many levels, but especially so when that focus group is clearly going to be fed a very nice meal afterwards (based on the place settings).
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Re: does anyone influential at an ISP read this?
I honestly don't think they do. I suspect that they are True Believers in Absolute Capitalism, and so the only immoral or evil thing they could do is to allow potential profit to remain uncaptured.
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I disagree. They're both the same thing. Systemic corruption in action.
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If it makes a company think twice about questionable actions in the future, then it probably helps someone, at least a little. Very, little, true, but it's all we got right now.
Your point here can be paraphrased as "It's the way it is, so sit down, shut up, and take it."
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Just did a quick search
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This is highly misleading. The US claimed that Iraq had WMD, and most everyone else pretty much just took that as proof and parroted the line. An awful lot of them even expressed doubts, but thought that maybe the US knew something they didn't.
But outside of governments (who had a bit of a conflict of interest on the matter), pretty much nobody thought it was actually true. Ans especially not the agencies who were in the best position to know.
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I'm glad they left it out
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Hard to feel sorry for New Balance
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But fixing that corruption is something that will take a very long time, generations, if it's possible at all. In the meantime, we have to find a way to get on as best we can and work around as much of the corruption as possible.
Title II classification and the empowerment of the FCC around it is, as you say, nothing remotely like a panacea. But it would help some amount, and there's no other avenue open right now.
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