Koby, you're misinterpreting c(1) directly below a comment that quoted it. Nobody is going to fall for your obvious lie. And if even if you weren't lying about that, you're talking about a court case that clearly said the good faith requirement in c(2) is no problem here. Vimeo easily met the conditions for c(2) protection because "good faith" doesn't mean "doesn't hurt Koby's feelings".
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Corporations exist ONLY by gov't / Public pe
I am old enough to still used smileys. And I thought about an emoticon or sarc tag, but decided (incorrectly as it turns out) that it wouldn't be needed.
Re: Re: Re: Corporations exist ONLY by gov't / Public permission
Nothing in what you said gives any reason in principle not to make political neutrality a requirement of incorporation in some or all cases either
Based on current first amendment law, I doubt that would pass muster. It would infringe on the political speech rights of the corporation and, by extension, its members. Not to mention the practical nightmare of a government agency deciding what is and what is not "politically neutral".
SESTA-FOSTA is “a death sentence for me,” said one sex worker. “We watched people literally walk back to their pimps, knowing they had lost any bit of autonomy they had,” Munoz told Rolling Stone. “We watched members of our community disappear.”
Would it be too cynical to speculate that that could have been a desired outcome of the bill?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If Maz ever wants a gun, he'll rely
Jeez, this is a toughie. Just can't figure it out. Maybe if instead we looked at whole continents, that might help. Let's see...
So I'm thinking where you're going with this is that places with a lot of black people have a lot of crime, so it must be because of black people. I hope I'm wrong.
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What you're ignoring, as most do, is that mass shootings are a blip in gun deaths in the US. Most gun deaths are by handgun. IIRC correctly most of them, or at least close to it, are suicides not homicides. Suicides become more likely, even with no change in mental health situation, when a gun is present. Most gun murders are of a single person.
The problem is not big scary rifles, it's handguns. And as far as I can tell there is nobody trying to do anything about those. And of course anything one might do about future sales would also be ineffective, because there are already so many millions of them out there, and they last a long time. Good luck getting rid of the bulk of handguns in the US in the current political climate.
Re: Re: If Maz ever wants a gun, he'll rely on 2nd Amendment.
I'm not a fan of the good guy with a gun theory, but this seems like a bit of a straw man. I don't think the argument is that shootings are impossible because a good guy with a gun will stop them. All you're demonstrating there is that shootings happen, which yes of course they do. The argument is that the most effective measure to stop them is other people being armed.
The problem is that this is very difficult to either prove or disprove. There are definitely incidents where someone pulls out a gun, and armed bystanders / potential victims chase them off. The thing is, this results in a non-shooting, which doesn't tend to be very newsworthy. How often does this happen, compared to the frequency of attempted mass shootings? How often are there armed people in the area who fail to stop a mass shooting? The claim is that "a good guy with a gun" is the best solution, so that raises the question of what are the other possible solutions, and how well might they work? These are not easy questions to answer factually.
If Section 230 were revoked, our defamation liability exposure would likely require us to be much more conservative about who and what types of content we allowed to post on our services.
I would phrase that a little differently, because as it is idiots will say "Yes! We want you to be more conservative!"
It's telling that you think the victims of police violence are the ones who need to change their behavior. Especially since black people are being killed for the crime of sleeping in their own homes and walking down the street.
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Koby, you're misinterpreting c(1) directly below a comment that quoted it. Nobody is going to fall for your obvious lie. And if even if you weren't lying about that, you're talking about a court case that clearly said the good faith requirement in c(2) is no problem here. Vimeo easily met the conditions for c(2) protection because "good faith" doesn't mean "doesn't hurt Koby's feelings".
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Corporations exist ONLY by gov't / Public pe
I am old enough to still used smileys. And I thought about an emoticon or sarc tag, but decided (incorrectly as it turns out) that it wouldn't be needed.
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Re: As a drone pilot for a survey firm in another country
Yeah, well this is the land of the... um... free, where the government stays out of... uh, never mind.
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Re: Re: Re: Corporations exist ONLY by gov't / Public permission
Based on current first amendment law, I doubt that would pass muster. It would infringe on the political speech rights of the corporation and, by extension, its members. Not to mention the practical nightmare of a government agency deciding what is and what is not "politically neutral".
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Re: Do NOT interact with ICE
As though anyone interacts with ICE willingly.
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Feature?
Would it be too cynical to speculate that that could have been a desired outcome of the bill?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: If Maz ever wants a gun, he'll rely on 2nd Amend
"Best leave it vague and unstated as to who does and doesn't commit violent crime, nationally and worldwide."
Yeah pretty sure he's going for "the problem is dark people." And he's right, most techdirters would reject that quite firmly.
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Re: Re:
Are you the same AC who just said you're not looking for 100% accuracy, and would be fine with >50%, or a different one?
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Re: Re: Re: Corporations exist ONLY by gov't / Public permission
Please tell me you knew that was a joke... I was hoping I didn't need to make it explicit.
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Re: Corporations exist ONLY by gov't / Public permission, TO SER
Food companies have to put nutrition labels on their products, so we should make Twitter host Nazis too because that's the same!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If Maz ever wants a gun, he'll rely
So I'm thinking where you're going with this is that places with a lot of black people have a lot of crime, so it must be because of black people. I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If Maz ever wants a gun, he'll rely on 2
What you're ignoring, as most do, is that mass shootings are a blip in gun deaths in the US. Most gun deaths are by handgun. IIRC correctly most of them, or at least close to it, are suicides not homicides. Suicides become more likely, even with no change in mental health situation, when a gun is present. Most gun murders are of a single person.
The problem is not big scary rifles, it's handguns. And as far as I can tell there is nobody trying to do anything about those. And of course anything one might do about future sales would also be ineffective, because there are already so many millions of them out there, and they last a long time. Good luck getting rid of the bulk of handguns in the US in the current political climate.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: If Maz ever wants a gun, he'll rely on 2nd Amend
You're saying there can be no good faith argument for more stringent gun control?
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Re: Schooling
So you reject the results from counties that voted for Trump using Dominion machines, right?
"In other words, if you eliminated every county that used Dominion systems, Biden still got more votes."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/01/swing-state-counties-that-used-domin ion-voting-machines-mostly-voted-trump/
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Re: Re: If Maz ever wants a gun, he'll rely on 2nd Amendment.
I'm not a fan of the good guy with a gun theory, but this seems like a bit of a straw man. I don't think the argument is that shootings are impossible because a good guy with a gun will stop them. All you're demonstrating there is that shootings happen, which yes of course they do. The argument is that the most effective measure to stop them is other people being armed.
The problem is that this is very difficult to either prove or disprove. There are definitely incidents where someone pulls out a gun, and armed bystanders / potential victims chase them off. The thing is, this results in a non-shooting, which doesn't tend to be very newsworthy. How often does this happen, compared to the frequency of attempted mass shootings? How often are there armed people in the area who fail to stop a mass shooting? The claim is that "a good guy with a gun" is the best solution, so that raises the question of what are the other possible solutions, and how well might they work? These are not easy questions to answer factually.
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Drones
Something tells me many police departments would LOVE to deploy one of these on drug raids.
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Actually he wasn't. But then, you knew that, right?
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Conservative
I would phrase that a little differently, because as it is idiots will say "Yes! We want you to be more conservative!"
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Or...
will other museums decide not to do such scans in the first place, to avoid having to release them?
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It's telling that you think the victims of police violence are the ones who need to change their behavior. Especially since black people are being killed for the crime of sleeping in their own homes and walking down the street.
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