There does remain fair use and fair dealing, though it's something you have trouble wrapping your head around.
Even with CC licenses and purchased licenses for reproduced material sites and authors have been accused of piracy so, again, who decides what exactly "non-pirated" material is. Is my recent essay on the history of the second battle of the Ardenne (known to Americans as the Battle of the Bulge) "non-pirated" if I give it to a friend to read and post on their blog? Keep in mind that I'm making no claim to copyright on my work one way or another and all quotes and citations are properly noted.
As I note above there are such things as fair use and fair dealing which have been used since copyright first appeared to highlight something from a work and then discuss it all of which ACTA wants made criminal in spite of wide spread use in journalism and academia.
Your biggest problem is seeing beyond that big C in a circle at the end of your nose to the real world. It ain't all that simple.
CSIS has refused comment as it's not allowed by legislation to spy on Canadians.
Doesn't mean they don't try out the lastest and greatest technologies domestically. But please understand they're just tests. It isn't spying. We promise!
Teows has a long standing habit of engaging mouth before engaging brain. Basically what the Bill says is that the police can go to a judge, get a warrant, essentially in secret and never, ever disclose what they intercepted even, it seems, to the defense should a criminal case follow which by the Criminal Code of Canada they must. Now Teows is the attack dog of the Tory "base" so how much of this is hot air and how much will actually make it through the House and Senate unscathed.
Not to mention past 13 Privacy Commissioners and one Supreme Court of Canada if it survives Provincial Supreme and Appeal Courts where this will certainly end up if it's as bad as Geist says it will be though he is a reliable source.
And no, I'm not on the side of kiddy porn downloaders or kiddy porn of any description. Nor do I want to kick a puppy. The Honourable Minister's left kneecap does seem a tempting target at the moment though.
Oh well, given that this started in 1999 under a Liberal administration like, in the United States all we've proven now is that there is NO difference between our two main political parties. Not so much as a eyebrow hair.
That you make such a blanket statement without actually seeing or listening to any of this but just from a knee jerk reaction then perhaps YOU have nothing important to say.
Or perhaps you've never read Jonathon Swift or Evelyn Waugh who did some remixing of their own in their books. So I guess they had nothing to say either.
The Dutch position actually makes perfect sense given that, as the minister says, most of the works are social or political commentary or absurdities and that none can be mistaken for or replace the "real" thing.
This is similar to a pre IP purist article I found in the October 1998 edition of Biblio Magazine in an article about Commomplace Books where the author makes the point that the notes, quotes and sampling done in these old books led to remixing that accelerated the Renaissance and compared it to Web hypertext where he says that "I our postmodern sense of hypertextuality, hypertext technology offers a vast spectrum of literary wisdom for the creation of unique works." This is quite the opposite of IP minimalist stances which, somehow, seem to claim the opposite.
In this sense the Dutch government is on the right side of culture and freedom whereas ACTA is anything but.
You're not a pirate. You bought the damned book, it's yours and you have every natural right to break the DRM and move your book to a more convenient device if that's what you want to do with it. Not all that much different than choosing a new spot in the bookshelf.
One would think that the publishing industry would have learned from their cousins in Hollywood that DRM doesn't work.
But they haven't. One of the reasons I haven't lept in to the wonder world of ebooks is DRM forcing me to use a Kindle and forcing me, essentially, to purchase from Amazon.
(Not that I have anything against Amazon, at least not to tjhe extent I do with Chapters/Indigo up here in Canada. Something is very wrong when I can find more books on Canada, Canadian history and the history of my province at Amazon's site than I can at Chapters bricks and mortar stores or at their web site.
Just don't try to leash me to a Kindle, please and thanks!
Actually it was fashion designers as their skinny models don't have feet big enough for loafers and the genuine leather elbow patches were a male only preserve. What was also found were decayed high gloss magazines which expounded the latest in the world shaking fashions from Dior, Chanel and whomever.
There were also some bones found that showed serious signs of self starvation and deprivation of nutritional needs, a few cartons of oil soaked cigarettes along side a few mysterious bags of silicon for which anthropologists have found no explanation. It has been determined that microbes feeding from these remains were themselves starved to death as there was no real food or nutritional value left in them at the time of death.
Not to be overly argumentative but taxation is the way in which governments pay for services such as roads, air and sea traffic control and expensive stuff like a military.
I have a real problem being taxed in any form to support private business, particularly when those businesses are still very profitable without the levy.
Nor is it that the entertainment/content industry have made their goods easily or reasonably available on line which is the sort of thing that gives rise to a black market in the first place.
People are copying and sharing which is something human beings have always done. it's given rise to things like agriculture, civilization, trade, writing and other things we take so much for granted now. Given that people are finding ways of sharing "entertainment/content" that is not otherwise affordable or easily acquired.
If. in fact, she made them available for further sharing. There was no evidence that she did that. So the fine was just for downloading the songs. For all any of us know she only listened to the songs herself or with her children.
Even then, and now, there is no need to prove or establish damages in any form. That becomes worse under SOPA/PIPA and much worse under secret treaties like ACTA/TPP.
As noted in both Mike's post the damages, if any at all, were inflicted (to use a very bad word for it) were for expected profits not for anything real. It's like me trying to sue you for the pint of milk you never bought from my store thereby depriving me of that expected profit. It makes no sense.
Of course our trolling AC's don't see any of that all they do is regurgitate the RIAA and MPAA's line over and over and over again.
That's it. Keep focusing on Google. It makes the battle easier when the opposition focuses on a chimera rather than something real. Like all the real people who were pissed at SOPA/PIPA and who took the time to say so. And continue to take the time to do so.
And I'm sure that this site and the people here are part of your dreamed of professional piracy apologist groups who received funding from Google and others. After all we are all freetards who want something for nothing and will stop at nothing to get it. (Which must mean that somehow we acquire powerful computers, get sites for nothing and pay for cable or teleco connections with air or an endless supply of pirated gift cards.
The table in Congress was set by Hollywood, mostly behind the scenes, the hearings about SOPA and PIPA were largely bad jokes because those testifying, if that's the right word, were hand picked. Even then support was tepid and when real experts on how the internet functions and works were opposed across the board when one of then snuck in.
If Google set that table I can tell you they have lots to learn about setting tables up.
The game changer was the word getting out about what SOPA/PIPA actually contain despite the flurry of propaganda that denied it and still denies it.
In all the time the debate went on until the blackout day there wasn't one person not employed directly or indirectly by the self proclaimed "content industry" who spoke out in favour of either bill. And most made it clear that the bills would not accomplish their goals while making the internet less transparent, endangering free speech and messing around directly with the architecture of the Internet without knowing what they were doing.
All while there was no evidence at all that the so-called "content industry" was suffering at all from piracy.
What I'm forced to conclude is that, as far as you're concerned anyone who disagrees with your position and that of your employers must be somehow "disinformed" by Google and being led around by the nose by Google.
Sadly, for whatever reason, American elections rarely see the kind of carnage English and Canadian ones do when the electorate feels it's times to throw the bastards out.
Mostly I suspect it's the difference between the Parliamentary and Congressional systems where MPs are very closely identified with the party the electorate is so pissed at when the housecleaning takes place.
Though if this sort of thing keeps up the days of electoral carnage may not be that far off in the States when the electorate realizes that tossing the bastards out en masse every once in a while is necessary to remind them who they serve and it's not the lobbyists.
I don't know that either party will endear itself to the internet generation, if I can call it that.
It's still a matter of who has been bought and paid for and who think they're safe come the next time they're up for election.
I sincerely hope they're wrong about the safe part though realistically I'd say no. The electorate will still be stuck with choosing between tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum on election day.
I'd agree with Mike that this isn't as much a party thing as individuals who are behind this silliness no matter how they try to explain it.
Other than that does he seriously think that SOPA will stop some Chinese companies from making and selling fake IGT gaming machines? If they're making money at it they'll keep doing it.
And just what is this "intellectual property industry" be mentions in paragraph 8?
Strikes me that any company holding so much as a single patent would be part of that and he also seems blissfully unaware that the tech industry relies on copyright for both closed and open source software a reliance that hasn't changed since the 1950s. Which would make them part of said industry too though a majority of the tech industry opposed SOPA/PIPA.
It would be more correct for him to have referred to what's now being called "the content industry" rather than Hollywood which has a nicer ring to it and is less likely to get people wondering just what Hollywood needs protection from THIS time.
Nice to know that some assistant actually read your letter/email enough to hit the function key on his/her computer to dash off this dandy form letter in return.
You're being sarcastic, right? I mean you have to be to have written something this inane.
And just who decides who is or is not a musician? You want to limit it to professionals but I know tons of amateurs who can play circles around pros in different genres but mostly just do it for fun so they never perform or play for money.
And you the hell are you to say they're not musicians? Or the RIAA for that matter.
Oh heck, it wasn't all that long ago, pre-iTunes that you did have do download various and sundry codecs to get the music to play. Even from the gatekeepers, along with DRM and host of other crap.
Then came Napster and the mp3, sonic vomit that it is.
It may be a situation where a gatekeeper may (just may) be a good idea. The problem here is that the gatekeeper is the RIAA and they don't give a damn about musicians or their customers or the musicians fans.
The reality is that with RIAA member companies there's lots to be negative about. Their track record is enough, SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, TPP and other nonsense is more then enough to be negative about them and their intentions.
She may have burned herself out on drugs and what have we but she's right on in what she says about the recording industry and the RIAA and what happens to the vast majority of musicians.
Ahh, "real life" can get so busy. I just read the interview I must admit he does understand the Internet better than most I've heard from and he does understand the international reach far better than others.
Most of my concern with politicians is that they sometimes lose track of the values and outlooks they were elected on. I do know that people grow in the job but all to often, no matter the system, the values they espouse and outlooks they once had seem to get lost in the shuffle. That's my hope for this man. That he doesn't allow that to happen to him.
Politics, of course, is the art of the possible. That is getting bills passed that are possible to pass rather than go down with a position or outlook. All that said some of the politicians I admire most would often do just that because they couldn't and wouldn't compromise on an issue. I may disagree with them, but I admire them for their loyalty to their values. It's too early in his career in poltics yet to tell about Rep Polis. But on this issue he's holding to his ground, his values and his worldview. So I congratulate him on that.
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Even with CC licenses and purchased licenses for reproduced material sites and authors have been accused of piracy so, again, who decides what exactly "non-pirated" material is. Is my recent essay on the history of the second battle of the Ardenne (known to Americans as the Battle of the Bulge) "non-pirated" if I give it to a friend to read and post on their blog? Keep in mind that I'm making no claim to copyright on my work one way or another and all quotes and citations are properly noted.
As I note above there are such things as fair use and fair dealing which have been used since copyright first appeared to highlight something from a work and then discuss it all of which ACTA wants made criminal in spite of wide spread use in journalism and academia.
Your biggest problem is seeing beyond that big C in a circle at the end of your nose to the real world. It ain't all that simple.
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The former is possible, the latter is more of wishful thinking I think though I'd love to be proven wrong :)
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Doesn't mean they don't try out the lastest and greatest technologies domestically. But please understand they're just tests. It isn't spying. We promise!
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Not to mention past 13 Privacy Commissioners and one Supreme Court of Canada if it survives Provincial Supreme and Appeal Courts where this will certainly end up if it's as bad as Geist says it will be though he is a reliable source.
And no, I'm not on the side of kiddy porn downloaders or kiddy porn of any description. Nor do I want to kick a puppy. The Honourable Minister's left kneecap does seem a tempting target at the moment though.
Oh well, given that this started in 1999 under a Liberal administration like, in the United States all we've proven now is that there is NO difference between our two main political parties. Not so much as a eyebrow hair.
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Or perhaps you've never read Jonathon Swift or Evelyn Waugh who did some remixing of their own in their books. So I guess they had nothing to say either.
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This is similar to a pre IP purist article I found in the October 1998 edition of Biblio Magazine in an article about Commomplace Books where the author makes the point that the notes, quotes and sampling done in these old books led to remixing that accelerated the Renaissance and compared it to Web hypertext where he says that "I our postmodern sense of hypertextuality, hypertext technology offers a vast spectrum of literary wisdom for the creation of unique works." This is quite the opposite of IP minimalist stances which, somehow, seem to claim the opposite.
In this sense the Dutch government is on the right side of culture and freedom whereas ACTA is anything but.
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One would think that the publishing industry would have learned from their cousins in Hollywood that DRM doesn't work.
But they haven't. One of the reasons I haven't lept in to the wonder world of ebooks is DRM forcing me to use a Kindle and forcing me, essentially, to purchase from Amazon.
(Not that I have anything against Amazon, at least not to tjhe extent I do with Chapters/Indigo up here in Canada. Something is very wrong when I can find more books on Canada, Canadian history and the history of my province at Amazon's site than I can at Chapters bricks and mortar stores or at their web site.
Just don't try to leash me to a Kindle, please and thanks!
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There were also some bones found that showed serious signs of self starvation and deprivation of nutritional needs, a few cartons of oil soaked cigarettes along side a few mysterious bags of silicon for which anthropologists have found no explanation. It has been determined that microbes feeding from these remains were themselves starved to death as there was no real food or nutritional value left in them at the time of death.
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In this case, a good thing.
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I have a real problem being taxed in any form to support private business, particularly when those businesses are still very profitable without the levy.
Nor is it that the entertainment/content industry have made their goods easily or reasonably available on line which is the sort of thing that gives rise to a black market in the first place.
People are copying and sharing which is something human beings have always done. it's given rise to things like agriculture, civilization, trade, writing and other things we take so much for granted now. Given that people are finding ways of sharing "entertainment/content" that is not otherwise affordable or easily acquired.
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Even then, and now, there is no need to prove or establish damages in any form. That becomes worse under SOPA/PIPA and much worse under secret treaties like ACTA/TPP.
As noted in both Mike's post the damages, if any at all, were inflicted (to use a very bad word for it) were for expected profits not for anything real. It's like me trying to sue you for the pint of milk you never bought from my store thereby depriving me of that expected profit. It makes no sense.
Of course our trolling AC's don't see any of that all they do is regurgitate the RIAA and MPAA's line over and over and over again.
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And I'm sure that this site and the people here are part of your dreamed of professional piracy apologist groups who received funding from Google and others. After all we are all freetards who want something for nothing and will stop at nothing to get it. (Which must mean that somehow we acquire powerful computers, get sites for nothing and pay for cable or teleco connections with air or an endless supply of pirated gift cards.
The table in Congress was set by Hollywood, mostly behind the scenes, the hearings about SOPA and PIPA were largely bad jokes because those testifying, if that's the right word, were hand picked. Even then support was tepid and when real experts on how the internet functions and works were opposed across the board when one of then snuck in.
If Google set that table I can tell you they have lots to learn about setting tables up.
The game changer was the word getting out about what SOPA/PIPA actually contain despite the flurry of propaganda that denied it and still denies it.
In all the time the debate went on until the blackout day there wasn't one person not employed directly or indirectly by the self proclaimed "content industry" who spoke out in favour of either bill. And most made it clear that the bills would not accomplish their goals while making the internet less transparent, endangering free speech and messing around directly with the architecture of the Internet without knowing what they were doing.
All while there was no evidence at all that the so-called "content industry" was suffering at all from piracy.
What I'm forced to conclude is that, as far as you're concerned anyone who disagrees with your position and that of your employers must be somehow "disinformed" by Google and being led around by the nose by Google.
You're wrong.
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Mostly I suspect it's the difference between the Parliamentary and Congressional systems where MPs are very closely identified with the party the electorate is so pissed at when the housecleaning takes place.
Though if this sort of thing keeps up the days of electoral carnage may not be that far off in the States when the electorate realizes that tossing the bastards out en masse every once in a while is necessary to remind them who they serve and it's not the lobbyists.
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It's still a matter of who has been bought and paid for and who think they're safe come the next time they're up for election.
I sincerely hope they're wrong about the safe part though realistically I'd say no. The electorate will still be stuck with choosing between tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum on election day.
I'd agree with Mike that this isn't as much a party thing as individuals who are behind this silliness no matter how they try to explain it.
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Other than that does he seriously think that SOPA will stop some Chinese companies from making and selling fake IGT gaming machines? If they're making money at it they'll keep doing it.
And just what is this "intellectual property industry" be mentions in paragraph 8?
Strikes me that any company holding so much as a single patent would be part of that and he also seems blissfully unaware that the tech industry relies on copyright for both closed and open source software a reliance that hasn't changed since the 1950s. Which would make them part of said industry too though a majority of the tech industry opposed SOPA/PIPA.
It would be more correct for him to have referred to what's now being called "the content industry" rather than Hollywood which has a nicer ring to it and is less likely to get people wondering just what Hollywood needs protection from THIS time.
Nice to know that some assistant actually read your letter/email enough to hit the function key on his/her computer to dash off this dandy form letter in return.
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And just who decides who is or is not a musician? You want to limit it to professionals but I know tons of amateurs who can play circles around pros in different genres but mostly just do it for fun so they never perform or play for money.
And you the hell are you to say they're not musicians? Or the RIAA for that matter.
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Then came Napster and the mp3, sonic vomit that it is.
It may be a situation where a gatekeeper may (just may) be a good idea. The problem here is that the gatekeeper is the RIAA and they don't give a damn about musicians or their customers or the musicians fans.
The reality is that with RIAA member companies there's lots to be negative about. Their track record is enough, SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, TPP and other nonsense is more then enough to be negative about them and their intentions.
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Most of my concern with politicians is that they sometimes lose track of the values and outlooks they were elected on. I do know that people grow in the job but all to often, no matter the system, the values they espouse and outlooks they once had seem to get lost in the shuffle. That's my hope for this man. That he doesn't allow that to happen to him.
Politics, of course, is the art of the possible. That is getting bills passed that are possible to pass rather than go down with a position or outlook. All that said some of the politicians I admire most would often do just that because they couldn't and wouldn't compromise on an issue. I may disagree with them, but I admire them for their loyalty to their values. It's too early in his career in poltics yet to tell about Rep Polis. But on this issue he's holding to his ground, his values and his worldview. So I congratulate him on that.
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