interesting, when i turn off openzone, BT FON still runs (they're almost the same thing).
if i turn off the wifi, openzone AND BT FON still run.
glad to hear that there are separate IPs but im still not entirely happy about sharing bandwidth. although saying that, im on the third floor of my house and we either have lead-lined walls or wifi signals are rubbish because you cant get a wifi signal in the downstairs rooms... outside the front is another matter
umm i would but... as per my above comment, EVEN if i do turn off the normal wifi, BT have a signal being broadcast all the time which i need to "opt-out" of. ive tried but for some reason my BT login details dont work on the BT FON website.
just as an additional thought... If i own an iphone and a netbook and neither have a wired network card, turning off the wifi would not help me it would just prevent me from using my internet on my devices.
not exactly a "simple fix" to turn it off as im sure there are people out there who dont have wired networking built in to all of their network(ed) devices.
It would help if they had "invested" that much in the stories to start with. news happens whether the newspapers report it or not. we all hear about things happening through word of mouth and (surprise surprise) the internet. journalists dont pay much for the material, it comes to them for a relatively low cost and is printed/posted for a lot less than the mainstream media would have you believe.
plus no suggestion of "giving it away" just realising that income streams come in various guises, to charge for what others provide for free is plain silly when you look at consumer choices (ie taking the free over the costly).
your reference to how advertising doesnt make enough to sustain the online business model is old and frankly wrong. maybe some links to back up your troll-a-like comment would be handy.
or alternatively maybe you could just be honest and admit that you work for the very people who are being referred to in the article.
The point here is not that people are trying harder to "steal stuff" as you so eloquently put it.
most of us will follow the VPN/IP hiding route because we're sick of government agencies and industry lobbyists monitoring EVERY DAMN THING WE DO.
is it not bad enough that you cant walk through most large cities without being constantly monitored on CCTV?!
now we're having every movement, every detail, in fact EVERYTHING (mobile phones, wireless connections, credit cards, passports, credit history, car licence plate, IP address, email addresses) monitored and filtered to enable big industry and our own governments to make more money out of us (whether through marketing, taxes or obscene lawsuits).
I WILL hide my personal details when im using the internet because well yes i on occasion may download a pirate file (in order to assess whether i should buy it ;-) ) but more because its getting ridiculous how much our free speech/human rights are suffering and being abused.
Evidently as you post anonymously you dont want YOUR details being monitored by people online so maybe you should think before you make such silly off-hand remarks. either that or you could just post who you are and base your comment on fact as opposed to taking the side of the big companies who are trying to shaft EVERYONE (artists/performers included BTW!).
unless of course you are on their payroll in which case read and learn about your customers.
Oh yeah and gotta slip this one in for the record... Mandelson (UK politician) is a crook
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Re: Re: the funny thing is...
if i turn off the wifi, openzone AND BT FON still run.
glad to hear that there are separate IPs but im still not entirely happy about sharing bandwidth. although saying that, im on the third floor of my house and we either have lead-lined walls or wifi signals are rubbish because you cant get a wifi signal in the downstairs rooms... outside the front is another matter
Re:
just as an additional thought... If i own an iphone and a netbook and neither have a wired network card, turning off the wifi would not help me it would just prevent me from using my internet on my devices.
not exactly a "simple fix" to turn it off as im sure there are people out there who dont have wired networking built in to all of their network(ed) devices.
Re:
plus no suggestion of "giving it away" just realising that income streams come in various guises, to charge for what others provide for free is plain silly when you look at consumer choices (ie taking the free over the costly).
your reference to how advertising doesnt make enough to sustain the online business model is old and frankly wrong. maybe some links to back up your troll-a-like comment would be handy.
or alternatively maybe you could just be honest and admit that you work for the very people who are being referred to in the article.
Re: Re: Re: Re: history repeats itself
thanks for the advice. guess being worried about these things is stupid really. not like we have any control over what happens these days anyway.
the so-called "elected" parties just do as they please regardless of our (the "electors") opinions.
oh, and thanks for the trolling. good to see you can make a statement of your own that bears some relevance to the point in question...
Re: Re: history repeats itself
most of us will follow the VPN/IP hiding route because we're sick of government agencies and industry lobbyists monitoring EVERY DAMN THING WE DO.
is it not bad enough that you cant walk through most large cities without being constantly monitored on CCTV?!
now we're having every movement, every detail, in fact EVERYTHING (mobile phones, wireless connections, credit cards, passports, credit history, car licence plate, IP address, email addresses) monitored and filtered to enable big industry and our own governments to make more money out of us (whether through marketing, taxes or obscene lawsuits).
I WILL hide my personal details when im using the internet because well yes i on occasion may download a pirate file (in order to assess whether i should buy it ;-) ) but more because its getting ridiculous how much our free speech/human rights are suffering and being abused.
Evidently as you post anonymously you dont want YOUR details being monitored by people online so maybe you should think before you make such silly off-hand remarks. either that or you could just post who you are and base your comment on fact as opposed to taking the side of the big companies who are trying to shaft EVERYONE (artists/performers included BTW!).
unless of course you are on their payroll in which case read and learn about your customers.
Oh yeah and gotta slip this one in for the record... Mandelson (UK politician) is a crook
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