Who are YOU? Who is THEM? Who are the so-called "Tech Czars"? Seriously -- this isn't about you (nobody) or them (nobodies) or Tech Czars (not a thing).
Isnt[sic] it time we[WHUT?] start lopping off heads?
I don't know what's in your pocket, but what "we" are you talking about that will lop off heads? Whose murder do you advocate? Why do you feel your opinion matters? Use big words and avoid the pronouns.
Then trump wouldnt even listen to his OWN Top doctors about things.
So... trump isn't capitalized but Oprah Winfrey's Network and a missing apostrophe makes it all good but the whole thing is not a sentence. Did you finish first grade???
Normally TD responses are literate, intelligent, provide background... but this one is a duesy.
We need to make a stand
What we is this?
Show them WE are the Employer
What we is this. Whom do you think you employ, you illiterate rat-bait.
Update: The FAA has issued an airworthiness directive (AD) to operators of Boeing 747 and 777 aircraft. This will require updates to procedures, the pilot's operating handbook (POH), and training.
For all the "but it works in Europe" people the difference is that in the US the frequencies are different, provide less of a "buffer" (guard band) between 5G and radar altimeters, and the US regulator (FAA) is more rigorous in testing.
This AD should pretty much end the debate on whether 5G interferes with radalts. Yes, it does.
a small but vocal minority that simply cannot bring themselves to believe their president got voted out of office.
Freedictionary says the modern interpretation means that yeah, that fat blustering moron got voted out of office.
Quora says that no, a sitting US President cannot be "voted out office" by anything.
I think perhaps a guilty verdict in a US Senate vote in an impeachment hearing counts... and we didn't have that here -- twice.
But hey, no tetrapyloctomy here. That previous guy was a divisive lying blowhard. His friend MPG is a divisive lying crack-addict-brain-addled blowhard.
Comingling corporate resources (including TV airtime, interviews, conventions, etc.) is a clear opening to piercing the corporate veil. MPG has put MP, Inc. in an untenable position, and no matter how you dress up and pose a stuffed pig... it's still a pig.
Is MPG a joke? Is CT a joke? Is the loser in the elections a joke? Did anyone violate any statutes or laws in this general absurdity of post-election head/sand interaction? The US Senate says no. I guess I'm hopeful the courts rule otherwise.
Anyone who says "I have nothing to hide" please fill this out:
Debit card # and PIN
Code to open your car, office, home, and any alarm codes if extant
Mother's maiden name and all passwords you have saved unencrypted
Full list of any traffic violations, civil blunders, or criminal acts you either committed, will one day commit, or already dealing with, including all those part that say how you f'd it up
If you want to frame it as "I have nothing to hide" provide the data you don't need to hide.
Me - like papa poster, encrypt everything. Let God sort it out.
Clearly the problem is that people in the UK are having children, and then failing to protect them. Rather than dealing with their own responsibilities, these people want law-enforcement, government, and private websites to nanny their kids.
If those who don't want to parent their kid would just stop having kids ... within 20 years none of their children would need that parental protection -- that they don't have -- and then the rest of us wouldn't have to hear about. Worked for China.
CAPS for emphasis and standing out... not yelling.
Thoughts about this article, attitude of irresponsible parents, and those who want to eat the dinner but not wash the plates:
end to end encryption is bad for children.
Too hard to have children, not take care of them, and then blame everyone else in the world because... encryption.
child abuse, trafficking, sexual misconduct, underage selfies, school resource officers... these are all big societal costs, and will be avoided... when there are no more children.
I'm sorry the UK is a "Nanny State." Nevertheless, I offer a solution:
DO NOT HAVE KIDS
or if you do
PARENT THOSE KIDS as if THEY WERE YOUR OWN DAMN KIDS
or if you're unable
GIVE UP YOUR KIDS and say "I can't raise these kids... they play video games on the Internet, watch Twitch, IG, FB, and YT... and bad people encrypt things so I can't watch what they're doing... but I HAVEN'T TRIED and HAVE NO INTENTION of doing so."
Don't petition law enforcement or the government to make up for your failure at your DUTY to parent the kids YOU CHOSE to have.
It's great to have kids... just realize your DUTY as their parent is to keep them healthy and away from harm... until they can do so themselves. Cops, government, laws, schools, that helps... but the real job is at home. This has nothing to do with the value of encryption.
The article speaks for itself. An abbreviated opinionated summary is here only for those who don't want to read original material. CNN is a great resource... why not read it?
Ehud
The FAA has now approved 80% of specific aircraft to operate within range of now-lower-power 5G facilities. Regional carriers who use Bombardier (who bought Learjet and others) are not so blessed.
The airline CEOs who never "freaked out" are happy. The passengers who didn't care, don't care, won't care, and just want to go home for Christmas (well they did, but now have to wait for next Christmas) don't care
The FAA is still working on this, yes, late and slow. The point has been made that they're late and slow. They get called "FAA".
The Federal Communication Commission somehow escaped being a TLA and is called by its non acronym name. They enjoyed being wined and dined by Big Telco... and now they're "supporting their donors" by insisting that really... let's just go 5Ging and Flying and see if anybody dies.
...that worries me at how "easy" it would be to endanger a flight...
There's a reason that shining a laser at an aircraft is punishable by fines in the tens of thousands of dollars. If it catches on the cockpit window it may spread reflections all over the cockpit instruments and cause the pilots temporary blindness. https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/lasers/laws
There's a reason that bringing items prohibited by the TSA will get the person bringing it in a lot of hot water. Unfortunately, the TSA doesn't find all the contraband, and -- worse yet -- you ARE ALLOWED to bring A DISPOSABLE RAZOR, so Florida Man can hold that razor to a flight attendant's neck... and at the least the flight WILL be diverted. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/sharp-objects
As someone who used to have badged access to the Sterile Area (past the security-theater) and the Air Operations Area, I can tell you that it's not impossible to get in there without a badge, and plant whatever you want wherever you want... until you get caught.
People do crazy stuff: https://www.kold.com/2021/12/28/woman-runs-onto-phoenix-tarmac-stop-plane-she-missed/
You can also take one of the luggage carts in the airport parking lot, cut a small hole in one of the metal tubes (like a shopping cart handle), and fill the tube with rounds of ammunition. Seal with some tissue paper so they don't rattle or fall out. You can take them out in the restroom stall. Then take a pistol that is almost entirely invisible to X-rays like Polymer 2 (what Glock pistols are made of), disassemble it. The spring is metal but allowed. The slide is metal so you can put it in a thermos (allowed) which will conceal the contents. Use the same restroom stall to assemble the weapon, load the rounds into the magazine, and chamber a round.
There are many other attack vectors.
On the other hand, how did you get to the airport? Was it in a land vehicle? Last year in the first 10 months 38,400+ people died in vehicular accidents. In contrast 137 people died in airline crashes
LittleCupcakes shows no sign of lowering their hallucinogen intake.
When all you have to add is disparaging someone's comment, and worse yet, labeling them as criminal (no hallucinogens are legal in the US) and insane (people being accused of having "hallucinogen intake" are not participating in this world... merely their hallucination of it... you make a big stink to discredit the comment.
And yet, what did you add? Nothing. Ok. If there was a problem with LittleCupcakes could you point out what it was and what the "non-hallucenogenic" reality you believe is different?
No links.
No claims.
No evidence.
Just the left-field "hallucinogen" thing.
TL;DR - altimeters and radar altimeters do different tasks, show different numbers, and only one is subject to RFI. Also yes the FAA is slow. Show is DoT that won't let us have laser headlights because in the 1960s they decided headlights have to be capable of a regular and bright light... and have a bulb.
Analysis for those who care:
...after causing a few days of mayhem, the FAA clears 62% of the US fleet to use the altimeters...
In the nature of comparing apples to apples, altimeters use ram-air through the pitot tube, comparing pressure to the static pressure port (ambient outside air pressure) and providing an approximation of HEIGHT ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL (MSL). There is an adjustable pressure level ("Kollsman Knob") so that as the aircraft transitions from one air mass to another the difference can be handled. These are not impacted by radio frequency interference (RFI) from ground towers.
RADAR altimeters, sometimes referred to as "radio" altimeters send a radio signal to the ground, pick up the return signal, and based on the round trip time (RTT) indicate the HEIGHT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL (AGL). These ARE possibly affected and that's where the issue under discussion begins.
The FAA has been slow. Not making excuses for them, but their focus is 100% on safety. Your safety, my safety, and our lobsters from Maine on that FedEx plane are more important than pleasing AT&T and Verizon Wireless. The FCC, on the other hand, really want to please those who wine and dine them.
One other comment. It's not 62% of the "US fleet". It's 62% of all aircraft operating in our national airspace system (NAS). That includes non-US carriers, general aviation, hot air balloons, gyrocopters, helicopters, etc.
Even the NYT got the altimeter vs radar altimeter thing wrong... but knowing the difference is important for two reasons:
Every aircraft piloted in our NAS has to have a working altimeter. See 14 CFR § 91.411
RADAR altimeters are optional for private flying, and a requirement for any commecial (Part 121, 135) flying.
The former display MSL (overall altitude above sea level)
The latter display AGL (height above the ground)
The latter are also used in automated flight landing systems
It's pretty clear everyone has an opinion, but this isn't about your right to move your mouth, make noise, and irritate the adults at the higher table. This is a discussion of a scientific nature on how RFI can make aircraft landing dangerous.
The FAA did not do their tests quickly. The FCC did no tests. The airlines did NOTHING. The manufacturers (Boeing, Airbus, etc.) were waiting on the regulatory agencies. The media were lying about how if it's safe in Europe it's safe in the US. Unfortunately not so, since the frequencies are different.
If you have nothing to contribute other than
I blame the FAA
I know nothing about frequenices, and, um "Europe!"
AT&T and Verizona paid a lot so it's cool
Realize you're contributing nothing to human lives and safety. Time to let the adults talk at the adult table. Would you like some more sparkling cider?
The Japanese have a saying -- don't look as to whom to blame. Look to solve the problem.
Yeah, the FAA took their sweet time and if they did anything there's no work product to show for it.
HOWEVER, that provides no excuse to risk people's lives. Better to take the time now and test things and ensure lower risk.
Sophistry aside, this is an ephemeral issue, and once resolved will be forgotten... until the next time an incompetent government agency seeks to make money they're not entitled to under their charter, and other government agencies and a broad swath of a vertical industry have to handle it.
Yeah. the FAA didn't do this for two years. Another two months won't matter. Sorry, AT&T, Verizon, and other ripoff cellular carriers.
Good summary, although mistaken on several fronts, but as this is not a discussion of radio frequencies, spectra being a temporary distraction until non-analog transmission methods exist and replace today's all analog transmission.
We can agree to disagree, if you like. Bandpass filters have been around for ages, and sadly they haven't improved much. RFI and EMI is a thing, will be a thing, and is a serious factor to consider WHEN the data is such that interference can be fatal.
Anecdotal evidence is weak when compared to scientific studies. Sadly "use of 5g towers" vis a vis proximity to radar altimiter usage on short final is not a good fit for a lab study.
Did it seem I was ranting? Not enough hyperlinks with data? Didn't like my faa link but don't want to say why? Consider the dialogue... and if we're here to argue with each other OR educate those who could use it.
But hey, if you'd rather cut me down, ignore the science, use statistics that the agency entrusted with keeping us safe rejected, that's your right.
TL;DR -Ranting without background knowledge and no research is not a good way to educate or inform. US and EU "5G" frequency bands are different. The FAA has only approved slightly less than two thirds of aircraft to use radar altimeters on final approach next to "5G" towers.
Are "airline CEOs freak[ing] out" -- NO.
Is there "limited evidence" -- NO.
Aircraft manufacturers [not "airline" and not "CEOs"] have been told by the FAA not to do certain things. Reading about it before opining is probably a good idea. Here's one article that is factual and doesn't make up any false story or suggest anyone is "freaking out."
There's a reason for this dichotomy of "Well it works in Europe" cry:
Europe uses different frequencies, so "5G" in the US is different from "5G" in Europe. Quote from the previous link:
The aviation industry is worried that US 5G service is too close to the spectrum used by radar altimeters, which is between 4.2 and 4.4 GHz. Europe does not face the same risk, according to the industry, because there is a much larger buffer between the spectrum used by radar altimeters...
If you want to get the FAA comments on how by now 62% of aircraft ARE certificated to operate close to US 5G towers, and 38% ARE NOT YET, check out: https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-statements-5g
I've said it before, and because some are too slow to pick up on it, I'll say it again:
The FAA is tasked with safety. Their decisions are based on empirical and scientific research to reach that goal. The FCC is a toothless organization that sells NFTs/Cryptocurrency/Other-fake-stuff called "spectrum." They pretend it's finite, and you better pay for it now or lose it.
Every frequency has harmonics. Some are a multiple of the frequency, and some are fractions of that frequency. Those are largely unregulated, a function of reality, and tend to cause RFI regardless of the license-holder's equipment. What does the FCC do? -- nothing. What does the FAA do -- promulgate regulations to make it more safe for air traffic (passengers and cargo).
In reality radio spectrum is infinite. The "microwave towers" of yesterday are at a lower frequency than bluetooth, WiFi, and any of the wave multiplexed fiber transmissions. Tomorrow's will be higher, and one day we'll do more than CWDM, DWDM, etc. OTA.
The whole concept of "one frequency" is obsolete, and so is "spectrum licensing". However, the FCC sells it, carriers buy it, and there's your market for the emperor's clothes. Even your old analog FM stereo radio picked up two frequencies for every station (R+L, R-L) so it could demultiplex the two sides but monophonic radios would only pick up (R+L). We're decades past that and still it continues.
Summary in TL;DR above.
Ehud
FAA certificated commercial helicopter pilot
FCC certificated amateur radio operator - Tech+
"While it's true that, in rejecting the DMCA takedown notice, Google has given up its DMCA safe harbor for those videos, "
No, it has not.
The DMCA safe harbors, weak as they are, stand just fine in this case. Your lack of understanding of it adds to the media pretending this is a precipice.
It's not.
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Oh yeah, IANAL either. But I know 17USC very very very well. Try reading it sometime. English required.
Please provide your SSN, full address, DOB, bank account #s, and PINs.
If you have nothing to hide from the authorities (wtf is that) or the government, you should be happy to do so. Chop chop. Do it.
You are WELCOME to give away your rights and give your private information away. You are strongly dissuaded from trying to give mine away. That's the difference between Pussy and Citizen.
Give away what you will. Don't come near me, family, friends, or rights. Nobody who values their rights will value your life when you attempt to remove those rights.
To be fair, yes, your anonymity is working after all. Your efforts are yours to do or not. I was commenting on -what appeared to me- to be laissez faire approach to it. My apologies should that impression have been a false one.
We all have things we can and should do. Those who are doing things... I salute you and us. Because we must stand and not give in... not to copyright maximalists, not to bullies, not to litigious trolls (Yeah, Peter Thiel, you), not Republican gerrymanderists, not anyone who abuses the system to the detriment of those who can not or are not able to be represented.
Re: Re:
Who are YOU? Who is THEM? Who are the so-called "Tech Czars"? Seriously -- this isn't about you (nobody) or them (nobodies) or Tech Czars (not a thing).
I don't know what's in your pocket, but what "we" are you talking about that will lop off heads? Whose murder do you advocate? Why do you feel your opinion matters? Use big words and avoid the pronouns.
So... trump isn't capitalized but Oprah Winfrey's Network and a missing apostrophe makes it all good but the whole thing is not a sentence. Did you finish first grade???
Normally TD responses are literate, intelligent, provide background... but this one is a duesy.
What we is this?
What we is this. Whom do you think you employ, you illiterate rat-bait.
Yeah, no, you're not.
Go back to your room and finish your homework.
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Spam, Turing Tests, and A-holes
Time to Turing-test these comments. The last three are clearly outside the scope of typical TD posters.
FAA AD issued 20220126
Update: The FAA has issued an airworthiness directive (AD) to operators of Boeing 747 and 777 aircraft. This will require updates to procedures, the pilot's operating handbook (POH), and training.
For all the "but it works in Europe" people the difference is that in the US the frequencies are different, provide less of a "buffer" (guard band) between 5G and radar altimeters, and the US regulator (FAA) is more rigorous in testing.
This AD should pretty much end the debate on whether 5G interferes with radalts. Yes, it does.
Alex Jones
But did it?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/28/alex-jones-infowars-loses-primary-custody-his-kid s/101017394/
From the article:
Freedictionary says the modern interpretation means that yeah, that fat blustering moron got voted out of office.
Quora says that no, a sitting US President cannot be "voted out office" by anything.
I think perhaps a guilty verdict in a US Senate vote in an impeachment hearing counts... and we didn't have that here -- twice.
But hey, no tetrapyloctomy here. That previous guy was a divisive lying blowhard. His friend MPG is a divisive lying crack-addict-brain-addled blowhard.
Comingling corporate resources (including TV airtime, interviews, conventions, etc.) is a clear opening to piercing the corporate veil. MPG has put MP, Inc. in an untenable position, and no matter how you dress up and pose a stuffed pig... it's still a pig.
Is MPG a joke? Is CT a joke? Is the loser in the elections a joke? Did anyone violate any statutes or laws in this general absurdity of post-election head/sand interaction? The US Senate says no. I guess I'm hopeful the courts rule otherwise.
Ehud
Sense of smell
Do you think they can smell child sex abuse from a car going the opposite direction at speed with the windows up?
Can they smell it if the odor is in the UK and not encrypted?
Can they then ticket the sex abuser via a text message?
I tried researching it and got caught by this guy:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7231#section-6.5.2
I guess I'll just have to go make a 5G call at the airport before one of my confidantes betrays me to Dan Ball from OAN.
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Encrypted drives and Compliant Passive Citizens
Anyone who says "I have nothing to hide" please fill this out:
If you want to frame it as "I have nothing to hide" provide the data you don't need to hide.
Me - like papa poster, encrypt everything. Let God sort it out.
Enough with the children
Clearly the problem is that people in the UK are having children, and then failing to protect them. Rather than dealing with their own responsibilities, these people want law-enforcement, government, and private websites to nanny their kids.
If those who don't want to parent their kid would just stop having kids ... within 20 years none of their children would need that parental protection -- that they don't have -- and then the rest of us wouldn't have to hear about. Worked for China.
CAPS for emphasis and standing out... not yelling.
Thoughts about this article, attitude of irresponsible parents, and those who want to eat the dinner but not wash the plates:
end to end encryption is bad for children.
Too hard to have children, not take care of them, and then blame everyone else in the world because... encryption.
I'm sorry the UK is a "Nanny State." Nevertheless, I offer a solution:
or if you do
or if you're unable
It's great to have kids... just realize your DUTY as their parent is to keep them healthy and away from harm... until they can do so themselves. Cops, government, laws, schools, that helps... but the real job is at home. This has nothing to do with the value of encryption.
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Progress? 200220122
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/22/tech/5g-airlines-crisis-what-happened/index.html
The article speaks for itself. An abbreviated opinionated summary is here only for those who don't want to read original material. CNN is a great resource... why not read it?
Ehud
The FAA has now approved 80% of specific aircraft to operate within range of now-lower-power 5G facilities. Regional carriers who use Bombardier (who bought Learjet and others) are not so blessed.
The airline CEOs who never "freaked out" are happy. The passengers who didn't care, don't care, won't care, and just want to go home for Christmas (well they did, but now have to wait for next Christmas) don't care
The FAA is still working on this, yes, late and slow. The point has been made that they're late and slow. They get called "FAA".
The Federal Communication Commission somehow escaped being a TLA and is called by its non acronym name. They enjoyed being wined and dined by Big Telco... and now they're "supporting their donors" by insisting that really... let's just go 5Ging and Flying and see if anybody dies.
Res ipsa loquitur
The dangers of flying...
There's a reason that shining a laser at an aircraft is punishable by fines in the tens of thousands of dollars. If it catches on the cockpit window it may spread reflections all over the cockpit instruments and cause the pilots temporary blindness.
https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/lasers/laws
There's a reason that bringing items prohibited by the TSA will get the person bringing it in a lot of hot water. Unfortunately, the TSA doesn't find all the contraband, and -- worse yet -- you ARE ALLOWED to bring A DISPOSABLE RAZOR, so Florida Man can hold that razor to a flight attendant's neck... and at the least the flight WILL be diverted.
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/sharp-objects
As someone who used to have badged access to the Sterile Area (past the security-theater) and the Air Operations Area, I can tell you that it's not impossible to get in there without a badge, and plant whatever you want wherever you want... until you get caught.
People do crazy stuff: https://www.kold.com/2021/12/28/woman-runs-onto-phoenix-tarmac-stop-plane-she-missed/
You can also take one of the luggage carts in the airport parking lot, cut a small hole in one of the metal tubes (like a shopping cart handle), and fill the tube with rounds of ammunition. Seal with some tissue paper so they don't rattle or fall out. You can take them out in the restroom stall. Then take a pistol that is almost entirely invisible to X-rays like Polymer 2 (what Glock pistols are made of), disassemble it. The spring is metal but allowed. The slide is metal so you can put it in a thermos (allowed) which will conceal the contents. Use the same restroom stall to assemble the weapon, load the rounds into the magazine, and chamber a round.
There are many other attack vectors.
On the other hand, how did you get to the airport? Was it in a land vehicle? Last year in the first 10 months 38,400+ people died in vehicular accidents. In contrast 137 people died in airline crashes
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/preliminary-monthly-estimates/
https://ww w.statista.com/statistics/263443/worldwide-air-traffic-fatalities/
Maybe so, and you have that right, but the FAA is still working to keep it safe.
Ehud
Drugs?
When all you have to add is disparaging someone's comment, and worse yet, labeling them as criminal (no hallucinogens are legal in the US) and insane (people being accused of having "hallucinogen intake" are not participating in this world... merely their hallucination of it... you make a big stink to discredit the comment.
And yet, what did you add? Nothing. Ok. If there was a problem with LittleCupcakes could you point out what it was and what the "non-hallucenogenic" reality you believe is different?
No links.
No claims.
No evidence.
Just the left-field "hallucinogen" thing.
Step off, kid.
FAA slow to deliver on research
TL;DR - altimeters and radar altimeters do different tasks, show different numbers, and only one is subject to RFI. Also yes the FAA is slow. Show is DoT that won't let us have laser headlights because in the 1960s they decided headlights have to be capable of a regular and bright light... and have a bulb.
Analysis for those who care:
In the nature of comparing apples to apples, altimeters use ram-air through the pitot tube, comparing pressure to the static pressure port (ambient outside air pressure) and providing an approximation of HEIGHT ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL (MSL). There is an adjustable pressure level ("Kollsman Knob") so that as the aircraft transitions from one air mass to another the difference can be handled. These are not impacted by radio frequency interference (RFI) from ground towers.
RADAR altimeters, sometimes referred to as "radio" altimeters send a radio signal to the ground, pick up the return signal, and based on the round trip time (RTT) indicate the HEIGHT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL (AGL). These ARE possibly affected and that's where the issue under discussion begins.
The FAA has been slow. Not making excuses for them, but their focus is 100% on safety. Your safety, my safety, and our lobsters from Maine on that FedEx plane are more important than pleasing AT&T and Verizon Wireless. The FCC, on the other hand, really want to please those who wine and dine them.
One other comment. It's not 62% of the "US fleet". It's 62% of all aircraft operating in our national airspace system (NAS). That includes non-US carriers, general aviation, hot air balloons, gyrocopters, helicopters, etc.
Even the NYT got the altimeter vs radar altimeter thing wrong... but knowing the difference is important for two reasons:
If you don't understand radio please go back to the small table.
It's pretty clear everyone has an opinion, but this isn't about your right to move your mouth, make noise, and irritate the adults at the higher table. This is a discussion of a scientific nature on how RFI can make aircraft landing dangerous.
The FAA did not do their tests quickly. The FCC did no tests. The airlines did NOTHING. The manufacturers (Boeing, Airbus, etc.) were waiting on the regulatory agencies. The media were lying about how if it's safe in Europe it's safe in the US. Unfortunately not so, since the frequencies are different.
If you have nothing to contribute other than
Realize you're contributing nothing to human lives and safety. Time to let the adults talk at the adult table. Would you like some more sparkling cider?
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Japanese saying
The Japanese have a saying -- don't look as to whom to blame. Look to solve the problem.
Yeah, the FAA took their sweet time and if they did anything there's no work product to show for it.
HOWEVER, that provides no excuse to risk people's lives. Better to take the time now and test things and ensure lower risk.
Sophistry aside, this is an ephemeral issue, and once resolved will be forgotten... until the next time an incompetent government agency seeks to make money they're not entitled to under their charter, and other government agencies and a broad swath of a vertical industry have to handle it.
Yeah. the FAA didn't do this for two years. Another two months won't matter. Sorry, AT&T, Verizon, and other ripoff cellular carriers.
E
Re: Re: Blowing smoke
Good summary, although mistaken on several fronts, but as this is not a discussion of radio frequencies, spectra being a temporary distraction until non-analog transmission methods exist and replace today's all analog transmission.
We can agree to disagree, if you like. Bandpass filters have been around for ages, and sadly they haven't improved much. RFI and EMI is a thing, will be a thing, and is a serious factor to consider WHEN the data is such that interference can be fatal.
Anecdotal evidence is weak when compared to scientific studies. Sadly "use of 5g towers" vis a vis proximity to radar altimiter usage on short final is not a good fit for a lab study.
Did it seem I was ranting? Not enough hyperlinks with data? Didn't like my faa link but don't want to say why? Consider the dialogue... and if we're here to argue with each other OR educate those who could use it.
But hey, if you'd rather cut me down, ignore the science, use statistics that the agency entrusted with keeping us safe rejected, that's your right.
E
Blowing smoke
TL;DR -Ranting without background knowledge and no research is not a good way to educate or inform. US and EU "5G" frequency bands are different. The FAA has only approved slightly less than two thirds of aircraft to use radar altimeters on final approach next to "5G" towers.
Are "airline CEOs freak[ing] out" -- NO.
Is there "limited evidence" -- NO.
Aircraft manufacturers [not "airline" and not "CEOs"] have been told by the FAA not to do certain things. Reading about it before opining is probably a good idea. Here's one article that is factual and doesn't make up any false story or suggest anyone is "freaking out."
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/business/5g-aviation-safety-europe/index.html
There's a reason for this dichotomy of "Well it works in Europe" cry:
Europe uses different frequencies, so "5G" in the US is different from "5G" in Europe. Quote from the previous link:
If you want to get the FAA comments on how by now 62% of aircraft ARE certificated to operate close to US 5G towers, and 38% ARE NOT YET, check out:
https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-statements-5g
I've said it before, and because some are too slow to pick up on it, I'll say it again:
The FAA is tasked with safety. Their decisions are based on empirical and scientific research to reach that goal. The FCC is a toothless organization that sells NFTs/Cryptocurrency/Other-fake-stuff called "spectrum." They pretend it's finite, and you better pay for it now or lose it.
Every frequency has harmonics. Some are a multiple of the frequency, and some are fractions of that frequency. Those are largely unregulated, a function of reality, and tend to cause RFI regardless of the license-holder's equipment. What does the FCC do? -- nothing. What does the FAA do -- promulgate regulations to make it more safe for air traffic (passengers and cargo).
In reality radio spectrum is infinite. The "microwave towers" of yesterday are at a lower frequency than bluetooth, WiFi, and any of the wave multiplexed fiber transmissions. Tomorrow's will be higher, and one day we'll do more than CWDM, DWDM, etc. OTA.
The whole concept of "one frequency" is obsolete, and so is "spectrum licensing". However, the FCC sells it, carriers buy it, and there's your market for the emperor's clothes. Even your old analog FM stereo radio picked up two frequencies for every station (R+L, R-L) so it could demultiplex the two sides but monophonic radios would only pick up (R+L). We're decades past that and still it continues.
Summary in TL;DR above.
Ehud
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That's not how the law works.
"While it's true that, in rejecting the DMCA takedown notice, Google has given up its DMCA safe harbor for those videos, "
No, it has not.
The DMCA safe harbors, weak as they are, stand just fine in this case. Your lack of understanding of it adds to the media pretending this is a precipice.
It's not.
E
Oh yeah, IANAL either. But I know 17USC very very very well. Try reading it sometime. English required.
Re: 'Fear privacy! Down with walls! A camera in every window!'
South Park did it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRquaeH8kfQ
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What do you have to hide?
Please provide your SSN, full address, DOB, bank account #s, and PINs.
If you have nothing to hide from the authorities (wtf is that) or the government, you should be happy to do so. Chop chop. Do it.
You are WELCOME to give away your rights and give your private information away. You are strongly dissuaded from trying to give mine away. That's the difference between Pussy and Citizen.
Give away what you will. Don't come near me, family, friends, or rights. Nobody who values their rights will value your life when you attempt to remove those rights.
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Nationalistic slurs
"...the UK government — possibly the nosiest humans on earth ..."
Possibly? This slur that has no basis, no support, and in no way helps the story certainly isn't worthy of TD.
The war against end to end encryption didn't start with the "possibly nosiest UK government" people, and it won't end there.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 'You broke the deal, we're returning the favor.'
To be fair, yes, your anonymity is working after all. Your efforts are yours to do or not. I was commenting on -what appeared to me- to be laissez faire approach to it. My apologies should that impression have been a false one.
We all have things we can and should do. Those who are doing things... I salute you and us. Because we must stand and not give in... not to copyright maximalists, not to bullies, not to litigious trolls (Yeah, Peter Thiel, you), not Republican gerrymanderists, not anyone who abuses the system to the detriment of those who can not or are not able to be represented.
My apologies, sir or ma'am :)
Ehud
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