It's the American people as a group who are responsible for these things, well known at the time they were happening, for not having used their votes to bring down the Bush torture and murder club and replace it with an Administration that would prosecute them. But it's even worse than that.
There were many crimes committed by the Bushies in addition to torture and murder. Of particular note is the illegal and utterly immoral invasion of Iraw...I call it the crime of the century.
I demonstrated against it before it started and was very vocal about my opposition when the WMD lies unraveled. It wasn't the government that came after me for doing so. It was my fellow citizens.
My property was vandalized in the night. My family and particularly my young children were threatened with the most vicious forms of torture and death. And, we were forced to arm ourselves to protect our children and to adopt a level of vigilance and distrust of our neighbors that was unthinkable before Bush was President.
It is the people themselves who are rotten in this country. The government is but an extension of that rot.
And here's something else I believe. 9/11 was well-deserved.
I chose Switzerland because they're not subject to the Patriot act or NSLs, because they employ high-level encryption of all my data, because they are not subject to EU laws, because they have a long-standing and well-respected tradition of providing private services internationally and because I don't like paying any U.S. service which may very well have stealthily conspired with the government to share my data.
Quawonk said, "All things are tappable, backdoorable.
Snowden said, "If they went in they'll get in."
Longfisher says, as long as I receive a subpoena or a particularized NSA I would gladly cooperate and turnover what the government needed.
The part I get upset about is the fishing expeditions.
To extend the fishing analogy, my moving my data and services overseas is not too different from a landowner becoming frustrated with the trespassing on his lake even though he posted no trespassing signs so he erects a high wire fence.
It's not impossible to still trespass and fish the farmer's lake But it's a lot harder and those who would breech a wire fence just to pull in a bass have to be highly motivated.
I think the NSA will leave my foreign-hosted data alone because I'm making it harder for them to fish it. They can much more easily just ask me for it and show particularized reasons for me turning it over to them.
"only the people who want to hid things...really care."
Nope. I've nothing to hide. I care deeply.
If for only the reason that I'm an adult, an accomplished citizen, an honorably discharged Vietnam era Marine infantry officer, a Ph.D., a scientist, a businessman and a doting father and I don't need supervision or looking after.
It's offensive to me that someone thinks so little of who I am and what I am to think that they have the right to pry into my private or business affairs at will.
There are two elements that argue in favor or moving your data.
The first is that overseas those countries would not be subject to NSLs or even subpoenas under the Patriot Act. I chose Switzerland and eliminated all my state-side online and off-site data contracts (but for a FAX service) within 60 days of learning of the NSAs spying. It was simple and cheap.
The second is that I responded to the NSAs excesses in much the same way that I responded to the excesses of the major U.S. banks. I moved my money then to punish the banks. I moved my data and online services to punish the telcoms and IT companies in the U.S.
Neither deserves my business. And, I'd feel like I were a serf or, worse yet, someone's b*tch if I didn't fight back.
Given how much a frightened America would forward the Israeli aparthied state and how much evidence exists for Israeli advanced knowledge of the attacks one must wonder if the Israelis may have influenced the NSA to keep their knowledge of the 9/11 hijacker's presence and plans secret
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It's the American people as a group who are responsible for these things, well known at the time they were happening, for not having used their votes to bring down the Bush torture and murder club and replace it with an Administration that would prosecute them. But it's even worse than that.
There were many crimes committed by the Bushies in addition to torture and murder. Of particular note is the illegal and utterly immoral invasion of Iraw...I call it the crime of the century.
I demonstrated against it before it started and was very vocal about my opposition when the WMD lies unraveled. It wasn't the government that came after me for doing so. It was my fellow citizens.
My property was vandalized in the night. My family and particularly my young children were threatened with the most vicious forms of torture and death. And, we were forced to arm ourselves to protect our children and to adopt a level of vigilance and distrust of our neighbors that was unthinkable before Bush was President.
It is the people themselves who are rotten in this country. The government is but an extension of that rot.
And here's something else I believe. 9/11 was well-deserved.
LF
Trust in other Countries
That's just too many positives to ignore.
Longfisher
Difficult but not Unassailable
Snowden said, "If they went in they'll get in."
Longfisher says, as long as I receive a subpoena or a particularized NSA I would gladly cooperate and turnover what the government needed.
The part I get upset about is the fishing expeditions.
To extend the fishing analogy, my moving my data and services overseas is not too different from a landowner becoming frustrated with the trespassing on his lake even though he posted no trespassing signs so he erects a high wire fence.
It's not impossible to still trespass and fish the farmer's lake But it's a lot harder and those who would breech a wire fence just to pull in a bass have to be highly motivated.
I think the NSA will leave my foreign-hosted data alone because I'm making it harder for them to fish it. They can much more easily just ask me for it and show particularized reasons for me turning it over to them.
After all, I have nothing to hide.
LF
Re: Anonymous Coward
Nope. I've nothing to hide. I care deeply.
If for only the reason that I'm an adult, an accomplished citizen, an honorably discharged Vietnam era Marine infantry officer, a Ph.D., a scientist, a businessman and a doting father and I don't need supervision or looking after.
It's offensive to me that someone thinks so little of who I am and what I am to think that they have the right to pry into my private or business affairs at will.
And, it makes me feel less free.
LF
Moved already
The first is that overseas those countries would not be subject to NSLs or even subpoenas under the Patriot Act. I chose Switzerland and eliminated all my state-side online and off-site data contracts (but for a FAX service) within 60 days of learning of the NSAs spying. It was simple and cheap.
The second is that I responded to the NSAs excesses in much the same way that I responded to the excesses of the major U.S. banks. I moved my money then to punish the banks. I moved my data and online services to punish the telcoms and IT companies in the U.S.
Neither deserves my business. And, I'd feel like I were a serf or, worse yet, someone's b*tch if I didn't fight back.
Why?
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