This week these groups shed a little more detail on the new effort, which it claims is the first step in reinstilling some degree of trust in the internet of very broken things. The standard is still very much under development, and the groups are looking for your help in spreading the word.
I couldn't figure out from the PDF linked to in the article text above what the context of this was. Here's the blog post announcing the PDF:
The computing world we live in today would likely be very, very different if there had never been a Doug Engelbart.
Maybe very, very, considering the path dependency of computing development, in detail. But so what, would it have been very, very delayed or otherwise worse? I doubt it very much. Independent contemporaneous invention and all that.
Yes, apparently the way to "increase the value" is to no longer allow Creative Commons content to "circulate freely" because it might compete with other business models
That reading isn't obvious to me, but I'm only reading the translation.
Could just as easily mean that cracking down on not-explicitly-permitted noncommercial sharing increases the value of explicit permission, eg public licenses. I don't want to see public licenses value increased in such a manner, but it is a more charitable reading than the implication of preventing circulation of public licensed material.
If the uncharitable reading is correct, and they see a real threat from public licensed works, GREAT! Now to push forward and realize that threat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denham_Tracts cites Michael D.C. Drout, ed., J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia: Scholarship and Critical Assessment, Routledge (2006), p. 121. ISBN 0-415-96942-5 as saying Tolkien may have gotten the term from the Denham Tracts.
Only if your business is selling copies, ie you=publisher (which is indeed what the linked column assumes). But if you=artist or anything else, competing with free isn't a must (though you can) and competing with free is the wrong way to see free. Often you want to, um, leverage free to connect with fans, and give them reasons to buy stuff that complements free. :-)
I guess the last paragraph of this post can be read to say that, but "deal with" still sounds pretty negative -- "leverage" would be the (maybe equally inaccurate) positive spin.
There's two issues: the copyrighted work restricted by DRM, and the DRM system itself. Often the entity that can give permissions around the first doesn't control the second. But I think it is socially responsible to give whatever permissions one can to circumvent DRM given the horrible policy environment. If you look closely at GPLv3 it addresses both cases as best it can (2nd if someone is silly enough to use GPLv3 code in a DRM implementation). See section 3 of https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html ... hopefully CC 4.0 licenses will do something along these lines as well.
You or another AC quoted relevant text above. Regarding whether language implicitly allows parallel distribution, maybe. A lawyer that worked for CC in 2006 gave the following non-opinion on that:
This argument can certainly be
made. CC does not feel that it, as
license steward, should opine on the
likelihood with which a court in any
jurisdiction would uphold this
argument if the issue were litigated.
If those things are not "inherent in copyright," then the copyright holder has no legal basis to impose it as a condition.
Exactly why "impose" is the wrong way to think about it. Permissions can be conditioned on things that aren't inherent in copyright. That's exactly what conditions on no DRM, or requiring source revelation (GPL) do.
If someone thinks they can outright plagiarize a CC0 work, then it's up to people like us to set them straight.
No attribution does not always equal plagiarism, depends on context. Just to set the record straight. :)
Actually I think imposing (more accurately, conditioning permissions upon) restrictions are quite the same thing as granting permissions (successfully or not). Conditions can be things not inherent in copyright. DRM conditions discussed in other comments being an example. A bit more on this at http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2012/01/31/copyleft-regulates/
Also, I look forward to the day when someone uses a work under CC0 without attribution and gets sued by the CC0 licensor/affirmer in Europe. Really, it'll be a curiosity.
(And I realize you're not trying to rag on CC, but don't mind if anyone does, and does so well.)
It was launched by legal scholar Lawrence Lessig, who indeed was dismissive, even contemptuous, of the potential of fair use to address copyright imbalance.
I'm sorry to hear that.
I've interacted with lots of the people involved in CC and the range of opinions on fair use (and other exceptions & limitations; it is a global project) from respect to fangirlism. Personally, I'm for fair use maximalism. :)
Even people who depend upon CC licenses, such as the makers of open educational resources—scholarly materials of all kinds, available free on the web—still sometimes need fair use. That is because most new work refers to existing culture. When that happens, people need to exercise their right of fair use, because most work is not in the copyright-light, fenced-in zone.
Indeed. For reasons similar to those that make most people using public licenses for software oppose software patents, people using public licenses for other works need to demand broader fair use -- otherwise publicly licensed works must be impoverished with workarounds.
This makes CC a copyright-light zone rather than copyright-free zone,
It's worth mentioning that CC0 gets as close as legally possible to a copyright-free zone.
and of course it does nothing (and doesn’t pretend to) to loosen long and strong copyright policy—rather, it depends upon it.
CC licenses only depend on copyright to the extent one views them as not contracts, which is the preferred view, but one Europeans tend to violently disagree with, and more substantially, to the extent one views their conditions as more important than the permissions they carve out. Granted without copyright or similar, those permissions would be superfluous, but in the way a bandage is superfluous if one is not wounded -- great, hardly a critique of the bandage.
Furthermore, only under a narrow and unimaginative interpretation of doing something to influence copyright policy can CC licenses (and other public licenses mostly used for software) be said to be doing nothing. The whole policy environment isn't just the letter of copyright and related law. Public licenses (more directly, projects that use them) are evidence in favor of loosening copyright, and give policymakers easy choices for effectively loosening copyright in specific areas, eg products of public funding by mandating such projects be released under public licenses, as is happening increasingly.
A CC license, intended to promote circulation of work, may limit it to the alternative CC world it was born into. This is precisely because it is designed to be an alternative to rather than a feature of the copyrighted environment.
CC licenses are non-exclusive and I'm not sure how they supposedly depend on copyright (see above) but are not a feature of the copyrighted environment.
CC licenses thus far don't permit DRM so long as non-DRM version is included. This is known as a "parallel distribution" option and has been rejected, but there's some small chance could be tweaked in version 4.0 of the licenses which are being developed now, see http://wiki.creativecommons.org/4.0/Technical_protection_measures
In any case, CC licenses are non-exclusive, so the DVD publisher could get different terms from the copyright holder/licensor.
South Korean legislation did not allow 40 bit encryption for online transactions (and Bill Clinton did not allow for the export of 128 bit encryption until December 1999) and the demand for 128 bit encryption was so great that the South Korean government funded (via the Korean Information Security Agency) a block cipher called SEED.
Why can't people dedicate their entries to the public domain with a Public Domain Mark or a CC0 license, or retain their rights but make the submission freely available?
CC-BY-SA is nonexclusive, so anyone who wants to can also offer other terms. If I were to make a submission, it would additionally be dedicated to the public domain (using CC0; the Public Domain Mark is not relevant, as it is not a license or dedication and is only for marking works already in the public domain). These are just nits that don't fully address your complaint of bias, but then I saw no intention of eliminating bias, of which there are many sources, from the sponsors to the announced judges to the name of the contest.
(untitled comment)
I couldn't figure out from the PDF linked to in the article text above what the context of this was. Here's the blog post announcing the PDF:
https://www.newamerica.org/oti/blog/raising-standard/ (March 23)
The only new detail shed is that they're starting a promotional effort for The Digital Standard. Which is good!
link to impacted photos on Wikimedia Commons
10,060 photos. Some could be old enough to not be impacted, but at a glance those are a small proportion.
Re: Blacklist the BSA
condolences, but stay out of the Great Man gutter
Maybe very, very, considering the path dependency of computing development, in detail. But so what, would it have been very, very delayed or otherwise worse? I doubt it very much. Independent contemporaneous invention and all that.
(untitled comment)
That reading isn't obvious to me, but I'm only reading the translation.
Could just as easily mean that cracking down on not-explicitly-permitted noncommercial sharing increases the value of explicit permission, eg public licenses. I don't want to see public licenses value increased in such a manner, but it is a more charitable reading than the implication of preventing circulation of public licensed material.
If the uncharitable reading is correct, and they see a real threat from public licensed works, GREAT! Now to push forward and realize that threat.
(untitled comment)
Re: Exceptions to exceptions
compete?
I guess the last paragraph of this post can be read to say that, but "deal with" still sounds pretty negative -- "leverage" would be the (maybe equally inaccurate) positive spin.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DRM restrictions in CC license?
But the general issue remains, eg with Blu-Ray.
Re: Re: Re: DRM restrictions in CC license?
Re: Re: Re: Re: DRM restrictions in CC license?
from first answer in http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/attachments/20060908/da9db6a3/attachment.pdf
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CC0 ?
Exactly why "impose" is the wrong way to think about it. Permissions can be conditioned on things that aren't inherent in copyright. That's exactly what conditions on no DRM, or requiring source revelation (GPL) do.
No attribution does not always equal plagiarism, depends on context. Just to set the record straight. :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: CC0 ?
Also, I look forward to the day when someone uses a work under CC0 without attribution and gets sued by the CC0 licensor/affirmer in Europe. Really, it'll be a curiosity.
(And I realize you're not trying to rag on CC, but don't mind if anyone does, and does so well.)
ps
I'm sorry to hear that.
I've interacted with lots of the people involved in CC and the range of opinions on fair use (and other exceptions & limitations; it is a global project) from respect to fangirlism. Personally, I'm for fair use maximalism. :)
Indeed. For reasons similar to those that make most people using public licenses for software oppose software patents, people using public licenses for other works need to demand broader fair use -- otherwise publicly licensed works must be impoverished with workarounds.
CC and other public licenses do loosen policy
It's worth mentioning that CC0 gets as close as legally possible to a copyright-free zone.
CC licenses only depend on copyright to the extent one views them as not contracts, which is the preferred view, but one Europeans tend to violently disagree with, and more substantially, to the extent one views their conditions as more important than the permissions they carve out. Granted without copyright or similar, those permissions would be superfluous, but in the way a bandage is superfluous if one is not wounded -- great, hardly a critique of the bandage.
Furthermore, only under a narrow and unimaginative interpretation of doing something to influence copyright policy can CC licenses (and other public licenses mostly used for software) be said to be doing nothing. The whole policy environment isn't just the letter of copyright and related law. Public licenses (more directly, projects that use them) are evidence in favor of loosening copyright, and give policymakers easy choices for effectively loosening copyright in specific areas, eg products of public funding by mandating such projects be released under public licenses, as is happening increasingly.
CC licenses are non-exclusive and I'm not sure how they supposedly depend on copyright (see above) but are not a feature of the copyrighted environment.
Re: Re: DRM restrictions in CC license?
In any case, CC licenses are non-exclusive, so the DVD publisher could get different terms from the copyright holder/licensor.
Re: Re: CC0 ?
it gets even better...
Why was SEED developed in the first place?
Those export controls keep biting.
(untitled comment)
CC-BY-SA is nonexclusive, so anyone who wants to can also offer other terms. If I were to make a submission, it would additionally be dedicated to the public domain (using CC0; the Public Domain Mark is not relevant, as it is not a license or dedication and is only for marking works already in the public domain). These are just nits that don't fully address your complaint of bias, but then I saw no intention of eliminating bias, of which there are many sources, from the sponsors to the announced judges to the name of the contest.
(untitled comment)
More comments from Mike Linksvayer >>
Techdirt has not posted any stories submitted by Mike Linksvayer.
Submit a story now.
Tools & Services
TwitterFacebook
RSS
Podcast
Research & Reports
Company
About UsAdvertising Policies
Privacy
Contact
Help & FeedbackMedia Kit
Sponsor/Advertise
Submit a Story
More
Copia InstituteInsider Shop
Support Techdirt