The only way we can make General Mills regret this action is to speak loudly and often. I'll join the FB movement and spread the word as best as I can.
Dude... #1 - I am not a Comcast customer. I switched long, long ago.
#2 - I did not ever say that I followed or condoned their rules.
#3 - You're the one who came here whining that you couldn't make your server work on residential service, not me. All my servers work just as they should.
#4 - Yes, your own level of intelligence - or lack thereof, in this case.
You really DO need help. I despise Comcast as much as the next person, but being upset at them for actually figuring out how to prevent you from doing what they tell you very plainly you can't do on their service is flat out stupid.
You can say "F you", but that doesn't change your own level of intelligence.
Not that I'm ever one to side with the media conglomerates, but the Anonymous One's point is kind of valid, IMHO. You're quick to include their initial fronting for the tour support, but then you totally discount the money the band makes from that investment.
We all know you side with the people, Mike - but you don't have to hide evidence that doesn't fit. The evidence is still plain enough without it.
If you're not going to include the profits that the band [and/or label] makes from the tour, don't include the money they get fronted for it. It still comes out looking quite bad.
...is really all about trying to taunt the guy into trying to bully Techdirt, right? I mean, how many times did Mike actually use the offending term in his one-paragraph article?
LOL well good luck. Taunting is fair use, of course, right? ;)
Claiming that everyone you're spouting your misinformation to is wrong and that it's truth because that's what you were taught is pretty revealing. Being taught something is only half the war, Anti-Mike. Once a thing is learned, you should not blindly accept it as truth, but put it to the test. I know the media groups don't like to follow or promote that sort of thinking, but the rest of the world usually does.
Obviously you have been taught half-truths and even fictions in some cases. P2P is so widely used simply because it IS faster. I routinely download my WoW updates at over 2MB/sec. Two MEGABYTES A SECOND. Find me a server that'll do that for me, I beg you.
Not all end-users are peers. They need software for that. So do clients, actually. And servers. But any two end-users COULD be peers, and the more there are, the better peering could be. Don't let yourself get confused by deceit.
Spreading incorrect "facts" and misleading lies here won't work. There's too many of us who can see through the BS you're trying to spread.
You can also usually set windows computers up to fake the mac address, too, so not really all that big a deal for anyone who knows wtf they're doing.. but the point is, it inconveniences the fucknuts ruining the world one dumb law at a time, and that's just fun. :)
As the parent of a student who was threatened with suspension for pretending a broken-off pencil point could turn into a sword, I can only shake my head.
These morons do serve a valid purpose, however - it teaches us to get our children OUT OF THERE. Private schools don't play these stupid games where families, values, and teaching come last.
There's certainly little sympathy out there for these companies, let alone loyalty, and they simply don't care. It's the craziest business model in the world, like a collander on wheels, and just keep lumbering on, even as the noodles continually slide right out the holes.
I hope and pray Google fights this, because if they cave, especially if/when it gets to court, it's gonna set some crazy precedent that will affect all of us. :(
One last thing, after reading the original article (which is to say, the article that this article reported on references yet another article (stopthecap.com) - it does say that the cable company and ESI are in discussions over the situation, trying to find ways to make the solution work for all involved. I didn't see that point covered here, so I thought I'd point that out.
Subsidies exist to spur development. This isn't YOUR tax dollars competing with you, Michial (and others), but OUR tax dollars stimulating an economy in an under-served market.
And Sinan, while I understand your POV, why wouldn't we support a company with an idea to provide them with broadband which is not currently provided? Your mentality that they choose to be farmers equates to them giving up internet service is flat out stupid.
In this case, ESI asked for $3M funding to construct infrastructure from government funds set up FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE. If you disagree with the government subsidizing infrastructure, well.. sorry about that, but that's what government does. They're not asking the government to pay for their subscription fees, or give them free cable tv - they're asking for funding to offer such services.
In a perfect world, we might all like to see this sort of thing financed by third-party VC or loans, but in poor economies, one does what one must, and if approved, this WOULD create wanted services and jobs.
The thing is, it IS the same thing. An accidental download (and piracy has nothing to do with that) is the same thing as an accidental posting, photo, and anything else. The ONLY thing that delineates this is that it's in Toronto, Canada, not the US of A. You can't treat one accident one way, and another accident differently.
I think Mike's point here is pretty simple: accidents happen, and people shouldn't be facing jail time and sexual predator tagging because of them.
I'm reminded of a fictional story I read a long time ago, where all the "dumb" criminals were rehabilitated or put to death, leaving only the really smart criminals behind to commit the crimes.
Even putting aside the issue of being innocent until proven guilty (which is a HUGE issue to any sane person), don't these guys realize that if you push people off the internet, they're just going to go underground, before they ever get a chance to prosecute?
Making them regret it
Re: Re: @weneedhelp
Dude... #1 - I am not a Comcast customer. I switched long, long ago.
#2 - I did not ever say that I followed or condoned their rules.
#3 - You're the one who came here whining that you couldn't make your server work on residential service, not me. All my servers work just as they should.
#4 - Yes, your own level of intelligence - or lack thereof, in this case.
@weneedhelp
You can say "F you", but that doesn't change your own level of intelligence.
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While we can only hope that copyright eventually gets fixed, meanwhile we can try to express our disappointment with such shameful abusers directly.
Re:
Ummm...
We all know you side with the people, Mike - but you don't have to hide evidence that doesn't fit. The evidence is still plain enough without it.
If you're not going to include the profits that the band [and/or label] makes from the tour, don't include the money they get fronted for it. It still comes out looking quite bad.
This article...
LOL well good luck. Taunting is fair use, of course, right? ;)
Anti-Mike should be named Anti-Intelligence
Obviously you have been taught half-truths and even fictions in some cases. P2P is so widely used simply because it IS faster. I routinely download my WoW updates at over 2MB/sec. Two MEGABYTES A SECOND. Find me a server that'll do that for me, I beg you.
Not all end-users are peers. They need software for that. So do clients, actually. And servers. But any two end-users COULD be peers, and the more there are, the better peering could be. Don't let yourself get confused by deceit.
Spreading incorrect "facts" and misleading lies here won't work. There's too many of us who can see through the BS you're trying to spread.
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http://www.thetalentjungle.com/hospitality_blog/index.php/archive/1/index.php/item/279
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These morons do serve a valid purpose, however - it teaches us to get our children OUT OF THERE. Private schools don't play these stupid games where families, values, and teaching come last.
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I'm in D.C., but as cool as this sounds, I've got doctor appointments I've been waiting more than a month for.
Good luck and have fun!
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crazy.
RTFA
Wow
And Sinan, while I understand your POV, why wouldn't we support a company with an idea to provide them with broadband which is not currently provided? Your mentality that they choose to be farmers equates to them giving up internet service is flat out stupid.
In this case, ESI asked for $3M funding to construct infrastructure from government funds set up FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE. If you disagree with the government subsidizing infrastructure, well.. sorry about that, but that's what government does. They're not asking the government to pay for their subscription fees, or give them free cable tv - they're asking for funding to offer such services.
In a perfect world, we might all like to see this sort of thing financed by third-party VC or loans, but in poor economies, one does what one must, and if approved, this WOULD create wanted services and jobs.
Re:
The thing is, it IS the same thing. An accidental download (and piracy has nothing to do with that) is the same thing as an accidental posting, photo, and anything else. The ONLY thing that delineates this is that it's in Toronto, Canada, not the US of A. You can't treat one accident one way, and another accident differently.
I think Mike's point here is pretty simple: accidents happen, and people shouldn't be facing jail time and sexual predator tagging because of them.
(untitled comment)
Even putting aside the issue of being innocent until proven guilty (which is a HUGE issue to any sane person), don't these guys realize that if you push people off the internet, they're just going to go underground, before they ever get a chance to prosecute?
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