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  • Aug 21st, 2013 @ 11:26am

    Re: Re: NSA - obama

    keep in mind that an incoming president can't unilaterally move to reverse what previous administrations have done. once it's the law of the land, it's difficult to change.

    additionally, there's clear evidence that people involved in the spying programs are willing to lie to us (james clapper and his 'least untruthful answer'), and probably to the president as well. remember how the CIA lied to colin powell and then trotted him off to the U.N. with the yellowcake fiction?
  • Aug 21st, 2013 @ 8:29am

    NSA - obama

    for those of you blaming obama for this mess, where have you been the last dozen years? a quick google shows a long USA Today article from 2006 (bush era)that reports:

    "It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added.
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    there was only one holdout among major telecoms, Qwest, and they were punished by the withholding of government contracts. AT&T, Verizon, Bellsouth - all caved. it's common knowledge among those who care that hardware providers were also required to put in backdoors.
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    "Backdoors are implemented in routers and switches so law enforcement officials can track the Internet communications and activity of an individual or individuals under surveillance. They are required by law to be incorporated in devices manufactured by networking companies and sold to ISPs." [networkworld]
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    if you're not outraged, you haven't been paying attention.

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