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  • Feb 10th, 2016 @ 8:46am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can't believe this is what Techdirt has to say.

    http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/cmp/investigative-footage/

    They have links to the edited and full length videos along with transcripts.
  • Feb 10th, 2016 @ 6:51am

    Re: Re: Re: Can't believe this is what Techdirt has to say.

    Sigh.... It is consistent along your reasoning to believe that the increase in cops being murdered recently is due to heated and hateful rhetoric by black lives matters activists against the police and that this organization/demonstration group should be punished as a result. A few years back during the Chick Fil'a boycott, a gay man stormed the Family Research Council and attempted to murder conservatives working there, harming one security guard. Should LGBT groups be held accountable for the mans actions after calling the FRC bigoted and hateful against gays, which directly or indirectly led the man to want to murder these people? I do not want peoples speech to be punished for what OTHER people do after hearing whatever it is they have to say.

    In regards to the editing, how? It is possible for people to show highly edited videos taking statements out of context from the bigger picture, especially when the ENTIRE length of the video is up for the world to see and no one defending PP to my knowledge has ever attempted to or made a video showing how PP workers were taken out of context, why? If the videos are so unashamedly and maliciously edited, where is the video pointing it out? The only people being shut down are CMP, less than half of the population has even seen the videos according to surveys.
  • Feb 9th, 2016 @ 10:22pm

    Re: Re: Re: Arbiter of journalism

    "… then it would mean that you had a difference of opinion with law enforcement.

    When you have a difference of opinion with law enforcement, then you lose.

    If law enforcement tells you to jump, then you jump. If they tell you to put your hands in the air, you put your hands in the air. If law enforcement tells you to say something, then talk. If law enforcement tells you to believe something, then believe it."

    This is the Anti-thesis of "law enforcement". There is no difference of opinion when it comes to law, there is just the law. And any judicial or officers that abuse the system to punish adversaries or gain favors should be met with incredible resistance by the public.
  • Feb 9th, 2016 @ 10:01pm

    Re: Can't believe this is what Techdirt has to say.

    Selling fetal tissue for profit is a crime, the videos that CMP released clearly show that PP did not simply have a flat rate for specimens and shipping but actually engaged in transactions that would net them a profit. The PP execs and employees actually talk about how it is not good for them to talk about payments because of the fact that it was illegal. They are also caught on camera saying that they will alter abortion procedures to maintain fetal tissue for bio companies(also illegal). Unless you can explain to me how these videos take what these PP execs/employees say out of context, I see nothing wrong on the part of CMP. Many people say that the videos are highly edited and misleading, I can grant they are highly edited(the full videos are more than 60 min!!! which are available for viewing) but misleading how? The videos only show the employees saying what they say, with images and text to support the journalists points. The points and images themselves do not take away from the actual comments made by the PP employees/execs. If there was a documentary about Adolf Hitler and it showed him talking about how great Germans were and how Jews had to be expelled and the documentary showed Jews in concentration camps with Hitlers voice in the background going on about expelling the Jewish threat, would you consider this a misrepresentation of Hitler that was highly edited and taking him out of context, or just a way for the director to emphasize the consequences of Hitlers words and actions with images?
  • Feb 9th, 2016 @ 9:38pm

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    I do not understand how exactly these journalists lied to the public. The videos were made to show that planned parenthood clinics engage in the selling of fetal tissue procured from abortions (even going so far as to having high ranking officials say they alter abortion procedures to preserve extracted fetus organs.) The videos show PP employees haggling over prices and thinking of ways to make a little extra on the side. Selling fetus tissues for profit is a crime and the videos showed that it was an ongoing under the table operation between PP and Bio tissue companies. There is just to much damning evidence in the videos to not make anyone want to at least have a thorough investigation into the companies that PP has sold Fetal tissue to in the past and the training and ethical conduct of PP employees, from top to bottom. Unless someone can explicitly explain to me how these videos take what the PP employees have said from the unedited versions (which are out for the world to see) out of context I can only say that I see nothing wrong on the journalists part. As far as violence against PP some comments here refer to, the shooting in Colorado was a horrific tragedy but information of things that lead some people to do bad things does not make the information itself a bad thing, especially when it deals with an organization which receives millions of dollars from the government through taxes that many citizens oppose.

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