Forget Hot Coffee... Those Naked People In The Sims Are The Downfall Of Society
from the say-what? dept
Following the ridiculous reaction to the whole "Hot Coffee" mod in Grand Theft Auto (which allowed users to set up a consensual sex mini-game in the middle of a game that already supported carjacking, prostitution, murder and, well, general mayhem) some people joked that "The Sims" might now face trouble because some users had made add-ons that would make the Sims characters naked. It was a joke, right? Apparently it's not a joke to some. Jack Thompson, better known as the "blame the video game lawyer," is taking it very seriously. Thompson, you should recall, is the lawyer who seems to show up wherever there's youth violence and it turns out that the kid also played video games. He seems to believe that kids who are violent are never responsible for their own actions -- and all the blame must go to video games, despite plenty of evidence that youth violence continues to drop as video games get more popular. He has sued over Grand Theft Auto numerous times, and must be upset that he isn't getting any press coverage in this latest situation. So, he's written Electronic Arts and a bunch of politicians a letter demanding that "The Sims 2" be re-rated as an "Adults Only" game as well because some users, completely separate from the game itself, have created add-ons that could show naked people. You can pretty much see the steam rising from the spokesperson who responded from EA: "This is nonsense. Reasonable people understand there is nothing improper in the game. Reasonable people recognize what mods are... Reasonable people understand the San Jose Mercury News is not responsible for vulgar things that people doodle into the margins of the paper." Indeed. But, it often seems like we're seeing fewer and fewer reasonable people around these days. Update: And now someone is suing Rockstar because they bought the game for their 14-year-old grandson. The complaint says that the woman never would have bought the game for her grandson if she had known it had that sexual content in it. Hmm. First of all, the game was rated "M" -- which means only for those over 17 years old. Second, the game warning clearly states that it has sexual content. Third, the rest of the game is all about breaking laws, killing people, stealing cars and finding prostitutes. And, now she's suddenly worried that it had hidden consensual sex that her grandson probably never would have seen anyway?Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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The funny part...
In fact, I wouldn't be suprised to see an even larger BOOM in mods that create sexual explicit content for normal kid-rated games. Almost a 'Streisand Effect' if you will (but not really). It's all over the news right now which only gives modders the incentive to make even more sexual explicit or violent mods.
I still remember downloading the "nude raider" patch for Tomb Raider years ago. No one was freaking out about that one. Also, there are tons of mods, skins, sprites, etc that can be downloaded making games much more gory and violent that the programmers intended them to be.
This issue is far passed the point of being stopped. There is no point in even trying. Games are basically open source when the modding starts and the sky is practically the limit.
Next we'll hear how modding and patching retail games is becoming illegal and those sites will all be shut down and sued until the point where it is all pushed further underground just like all this P2P crap.
unbelievable.
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Re: The funny part...
I can us PAINT... to draw BOOBS... I can set that picture of BOOBS as my background in WINDOWS... I can email the BOOBS in OUTLOOK to my GOOGLE mail where I'll likely pick it up on my DEBIAN box and tweak it with GIMP running in KDE...
Lawyers like this guy need to be... well.. they don't have a word for it... yet... but they will.
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While we are on the topic though, his next target should be National Geographic Magazine. This pornographic filth is in school libraries everywhere! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
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Games causing violence
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They sat me down and explained how wrong it is to use bad language on a regular basis and how people can be offended by it, and how violence is not the way to solve problems in life, and how sex is a natural thing that we all end up doing (when we are ready), but make sure to ask DAD to buy me condoms if I decide to do it before I turn 18. Everything was straight forward and even as a 8 year old, I understood it all.
This is known as great parenting. I never had a rebellious stage and I listened to my parents because I respected them and their honesty towards me. They didn't jerk me around, make up lies, and tell me what I can and can't do. They let me make my own decisions but EDUCATED ME well first!
And you know what... I turned out to be a pretty decent, non-violent, empathetic individual who also happens to LOVE violence and sex in video games. It's my escape from reality (well maybe just the violence part).
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first they came for the videogames...
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Who has a child I can exploit?
Call me:
8675309
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SIMS itself had that mod..
Stuff like this will always be out there. Why blame the video game for the lack of parenting. Are these people using video games as babysitters ? deja vu! Wasn't that the issue about tv years ago? Don't blame the video game for the lack of parenting skills - isntead maybe parents need to be parents again instead of finding something else to blame for what he/she could have prevented by spending time with the kid and actually being a parent instead of whining about the video game the kid plays.
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Blaming someone else doesn't help the issue. I don't care if you are a single parent. You made the life decision (whether it was a mistake or not) to have a child. Step up and take on your responsibility like a decent human being should.
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You know what's next?
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Think About It
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re-sponsible
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I am getting really tired of this debate...
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WTF
people that buys games for younger viewer are f***ing dumba**
as for Jack S**tbag leave our games alone
just becaue they have violance that don't mean someone
might copy the actions in the games.
Sex, violance, drugs, and other stuff like that is all around us, know this S**tbag you can't censor the world
with your crap
I have the sims 2 also GTA:SA first-edition
so what the big f***ing deal?
EA and ROCKSTAR had nothing to do with any of the nude scenes in their games the people made them
EA don't re-call or re-rated the game because an A**hole say so, he can't censor the world
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Oh wow, is this for real?
First of all, i am 14 and i think its redicoulus(i am really sorry for spelling mistakes). The reason the world is like that is that 'conserned parents' are trying to ban 'sexual content' in america. Think about, in school what be the most sure fire way of getting kids to know about something, it was banning it. America(and Canada) is making too much a fuss. If everyone was more open about it we wouldn't be having this problem. Do we have these problems in Europe were public nudity is allowed publicly?(and not in private nudist camps either). No, they don't, I think we need to get it out there, yes, guys and girls are different, big deal. Maybe Jack should go after gr.5 teachers and gr.9 science teachers(shutters at the thought of the graphic movie in science class). Honestly, if Jack saw that same movie he would have a heart attack, seriously, it had a 'full frontal' few of birth. I know it seems like i went back on what i just said but honestly it was gross for me. Anyway, Jack, GET A LIFE!!! Or actually play the game before you accuse it.
Excuse me know while i have a silent freak out about jack.
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Just the whole kids repeat actions from games thin
So now do you wanna put an adult rating or something on that? If you do then GET A F*CK*N LIFE.
Before ya kill someone (I mean those young kids) you have done some serieus thinking or youre just INSANE!!
(Mostly those who do are insane.)
Did you even now that actions in a movie atract kids more to repeat those actions.(YES MORE THEN GAMES.)
And also there is a reason why there are age ratings on those games. You dont let a 6 year old play a game thats extremely violant. There is a game that has been taken from the market and now is illigal or something. (Sorry i dont now the name of it.)Wel an 8yo (I think he was 8)played it and killed his friend WEL KINDA LOGIC ISNT IT. IT WAS BY THE WAY RATED FOR ADULTS ONLY. AND ON THE TOP OF THAT THE LITTLE BOY WAS INSANE!!!
(By the way sorry for the spelling mistakes.)
(Sorry for the offensive language but I REALY HATE THESE KINDA PEOPLE!!!)
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Re: Just the whole kids repeat actions from games
And if they do it wil turn out someday.
And there wil be a couple of mad parents.
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NerdZ
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Shakespeare said it best...
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