Freedom Of The Press? Who Needs It?

from the maybe-freedom-from-the-press... dept

It's sort of a silly exercise, really, because it sets up a ridiculous condition that wouldn't occur in real life, but Romenesko points us to a story about a Middle School teacher who asked her students what five Constitutional protections they would keep if they had to throw out the rest, and not a single one picked "freedom of the press." Obviously, these are young kids -- and many people at that age don't read any news anyway, so it's not surprising that they wouldn't care as much. However, the general sense from the kids seems to be that they're just sick of the mass media in general, and don't see any reason why it needs any special protections. While there have been a bunch of stories recently about the numbers look bad this year for the news business, it's results like the one above that should really scare newspapers. Their future readers are growing up in a world where they already know that the media is a waste of their time. Update: Dan Gillmor has a slightly different take, agreeing that the study itself is stupid and pointing out that freedom of speech equals freedom of the press. However, his claim that this only clouds issues isn't necessarily true. It still seems like it says something about how kids view the press -- and that does matter.
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  • identicon
    Bob, 10 Nov 2005 @ 7:43pm

    Media

    I agree it does matter. Maybe its obvious to even them that today's mainstream (corporate) media is dominated by influence peddlers. Anyone who believes otherwise is deluding themselves and needs to pull their head out of their a**.

    As I see it today's media serves three purposes in society.

    To invoke fear and terror
    To convince you to buy junk
    To distort the truth with spin

    The hard-edge news reporting of yesteryear is gone. What remains is an empty shell of what was, now something of a disgrace.

    Clearly, even our children recognize it.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Jose, 11 Nov 2005 @ 6:54am

      Re: Media

      In essence, the news is ALREADY "sanctioned".

      Christ, in a media where three pixels of janet jacksons nipple are more newsbreaking than the shady dealings in the Capitol, what do you expect?

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      jay_free, 11 Nov 2005 @ 8:25am

      Re: Media

      And the weather channels are designed to give ever changing and conflicting reports so it is hard for people to make plans. They are a tool of the government designed to keep people at home so they can not cause trouble.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    dorpus, 10 Nov 2005 @ 7:54pm

    Faustian Bargain

    If the press has freedom, can't it serve a big brother function too?

    If the press shows surveillance footage of a train dragging a baby cart, is that freedom of press, or embarassing the victim?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    dorpus, 10 Nov 2005 @ 7:54pm

    Faustian Bargain

    If the press has freedom, can't it serve a big brother function too?

    If the press shows surveillance footage of a train dragging a baby cart, is that freedom of press, or embarassing the victim?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 10 Nov 2005 @ 9:29pm

      Re: Faustian Bargain

      there is a fine line between freedom of the press(speech) and slander/degrading press. Its hard to say that the press cannot do something like that while keeping the freedoms that are essential enough to any goverment to be Amendment #1

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    G. Steve Arnold, 10 Nov 2005 @ 9:26pm

    Ask 'em this...

    They just need to grow up a little. If you want to give 'em a little push, just ask 'em if they'd be willing to give up their freedom to blog. That's how they need to be thinking about the press.
    BTW, I know blogs != press, but they do represent opinion, and that's where papers like the New York Times got their start. Kids need to start making that connection -- that "The Press" isn't just huge supersized media facotries, but any joe shmoe who's willing to take out a second mortgage on his house to buy a printing press or a mimeograph or a xerox machine or a PC just so he can tell everyone within earshot why he's pissed off.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Newob, 11 Nov 2005 @ 3:32am

    Welcome to the future

    Welcome to the future, folks. Now we are the press, because the big companies that own newspapers and TV channels pander only to their parent companies, the advertisers. It's an entrenched system that will only grow unless we force it to collapse under its own gravity.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Nov 2005 @ 6:20am

    Young internet user

    I'd say the press can go to hell and their overexaggerated and twisted reports and intervews. For $0/month now everyone can bring news to the world, and this is what the media will be like in few years from now.

    Last time I bought a newspaper? Uhmm like 5-6 years? More?

    Last time I listened to the radio? 2-3 years..

    Last time I watched news on TV? Well I just ditched my TV tuner card a week ago and I don't miss it at all.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    SysAdmin, 11 Nov 2005 @ 6:35am

    As lousy as it is...

    Love it or leave it, at least our press can say bad things about its government. The fact that they can disagree without getting their heads chopped off is quite unique in this world of ours.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Brad, 11 Nov 2005 @ 9:12am

    Freedom of the Press

    The kids discount the press because the press has reduced themselves to "repeaters" instead of "reporters".
    It costs money to do real investigative journalism and the few corporate parents of most major media outlets have chosen profits over an informed public -- thus we get too much coverage of Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston and no real depth of coverage of things that matter.
    This race to the bottom is being led by Rupurt Murdoch. From London's "Sun" to the blabbering idiots on Fox News his companies have destroyed people's faith in anything published or broadcast. His agenda is clear -- the dumber and less informed the people the easier they are to manipulate to the benefit of big business and corrupt politicians.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      oh come on, 11 Nov 2005 @ 9:28am

      Re: Freedom of the Press

      Guys, this is the opinion of MIDDLE SCHOOLERS. It wasn't a study of, say CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYERS.

      These kids probably don't put the Beatles in "top 5 bands of all time" either, but who the fuck cares.

      There is a reason we set the voting age at 18.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Nov 2005 @ 9:51am

    No Subject Given

    My son's class did this exact same thing a few weeks ago (he's a sophomore.)

    I don't recall the exact rankings, but I know freedom of the press did not end up in the top five. His reasoning was that it was redundant, if citizens are guaranteed free speech. It's not an unreasonable position.

    Of course, he couldn't get any of the other kids to include the right to bear arms in the top five, either. Apparently impassioned arguments about an armed populace keeping the government honest out of fear of violent revolution don't go over well in high-school :-) Sigh.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Ron, 11 Nov 2005 @ 10:15am

      The press

      I would back Freedom of the press if they would report the news in a nuetral sense. It is astonishing to me how sheeple today believe everything that the media and politicians says.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    The Other Mike, 11 Nov 2005 @ 11:07am

    Who cares?

    I can count on one hand how many people I know who actually know what's going on in the world today. People feel there are better ways to waste time than listening to/reading about others ideas on how the world is or should be (this includes blogs).

    Religious zealots are going to start witch trials again according to the left, and there is going to be forced abortions for everyone according to the right. SSDD for the last 20 years. Public take on it: wake me when its over.

    Until there is something else to report the general public couldn't care less and these kids reflect that.

    link to this | view in chronology ]


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