Newspapers Experiment With Different Registration Systems
from the experiment-away dept
Jay Small, who works for E.W. Scripps, writes in to let us know about an experiment Scripps has been working on concerning registration walls for its various newspaper websites. In the past (as Jay notes), we've been quite critical of newspapers having registration walls -- believing it keeps traffic away, lowering their ad revenue (to a much greater degree than any bogus demographic data they get from the registrations helps boost their ad revenue). The experiments involved letting people see a limited number of stories per month without registration. The number was different, depending on the site, so they could compare across different sites. The results aren't too surprising -- though, they might have been more interesting if the comparisons weren't across sites, but for randomly chosen users within a single site (some get reg required right away, some get it after 3 stories, some after 5, etc.). They found it didn't impact actual traffic that much (or did so in inconclusive ways), but that could be a factor of people knowing to avoid Scripps' papers because they already knew about the registration wall. When people did eventually get the registration page, the same percentage bailed out. And, of course, the most expected finding: fewer people signed up for the email newsletters from Scripps' papers because fewer people were pushed to do so on a registration page. This highlights the point we made a few years ago that registration for newspapers usually isn't really about getting "better data," but about building a bigger spam list. Either way, it's good to see more newspapers experimenting with alternatives, and it will be interesting to see where Scripps goes with this.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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One man's spam is another man's ...
I might quibble with your choice to refer to our permission marketing and e-newsletter programs as "spam," but hey ... I know people who think any e-mail that comes from a list or a person they don't know is spam. You're entitled to your opinion.
Many people do take advantage of the special offers and discounts from local advertisers that go out in our e-marketing campaigns. And people who don't want to receive those messages can choose not to opt in, or can unsubscribe easily at any time.
In my view, that's much more than a nuance apart from "spam." We'll have to agree to disagree.
Still, I appreciate the link and the commentary. I find techdirt useful in my everyday work, so it's nice to be included.
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Re: One man's spam is another man's ...
Jay,
I don't believe Mike is accusing Scripps of mining for spammable adresses; I think he's bringing up the valid notion that most users, when presented with a registration page, assume that their contact information will be used for things beyond simply providing deeper site access.
I myself know that in order to protect my privacy, I need to read the privacy policies provided by any entity requesting such info. But personally, I often don't feel like slogging through alternating ALL CAPS DISCLAIMERS and fine print to determine if this entity will sell or rent or accidentally leak my email address to ANY other party, including subsidiaries or parent companies. I'd rather surf to another site not requiring registration. Even if I know my address is safe at a site I want to read, I still don't like that I have to register at so many sites. Concise Privacy Policy notices presented in the clear right near the txt box significantly improve the chances that I'll register.
Many people I know do as I do. I maintain two or three free email accounts that I supply to sites that need registration to use but with which I have no actual business relationship. If I don't forsee that you will NEED to contact me, you get a xyzBOBnospam@somefreeservice.com address which I never really check. And if you want demographic info, depending on my mood and how you request it, I may just give you bogus data.
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Re: Re: One man's spam is another man's ...
I would also add that even if the Privacy Policy says that your address won't be distributed, I fear that the company can usually change that policy in an instant by simply posting a new policy. It seems that every company eventually gets bought by another company. In some cases the email database is one of the assets the parent company wants to control.
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Bug me not
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The only way I will register is if I am going to use a site frequently meaning once a week or more.
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I beg to differ...
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Not to sound repetitive, but...
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Re: Not to sound repetitive, but...
Reporters and Editors and an "Editorial Board" serve an important purpose, if only as a bogosity filter.
Sure, newspapers show a bias, but bloggers not only are biased, but are not always upfront about it. I know my daily paper leans hard left and the corporate ownership has a certain agenda, but what is behind the agenda of a blogger?
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Re: Re: Not to sound repetitive, but...
To clarify; I'm attacking the corporate mentality that puts a price tag on freedom of speech and wordsmiths articles to serve political goals. Also I was voicing a frustration that I have with unsolicited marketing (newspaper on the front lawn).
You're right the blogosphere is biased and, I believe, the motivation to use it is as individual as the person. I use it to see how right or left of center I am and make adjustments as necessary. Helps me understand mainstream thinking.
Besides where else can one voice ones opinion without consequence.
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Lazy
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NOBODY LIKES A NEWS LETTER. WE ALL HATE THEM, FUCKING STOP SENDING THEM PLEASE.
Pull your heads from your asses already and stop kidding yourself. It's SPAM.
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