Why China Will Never Get Rich Working On The Assembly Line
from the ideas-matter dept
After China's recent fiasco with faked semiconductor research, some are questioning the idea that China must become a technological innovator in order to advance economically. It's an interesting question, since it would seem that the country is doing just fine hauling in billions of dollars from manufacturing and the supply of cheap retail goods. But this view misses the point about how wealth is created. When a worker works on an assembly line, their output is proportional to their input. If they work 16 hours, they produce twice as much as they would in 8 hours, etc. But when people work in areas that involve ideas and innovation, their output isn't so limited. A brilliant chip design, for example, can be put into computers throughout the globe. If China is to continue raising the wealth of its population, it is important that more people there work in fields whose products can be extended beyond the limitations of time and place. Though they may have some hiccups along the way, it appears that they're going in this direction.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Re: How very elitist of you.
The Chinese politcal ambiguity of economic democracy, but social communism (or whatever social regime the are now under) is slowly but surely opening the doors for more and more of it's population. In the end both can not continue to stand and my hope is the democracy will ultimately win out over all.
"I'd really rather they just stick to the assembly line work, whether that's good for them or not." You must be a liberal. Only a liberal would put their own agenda above the good of an entire nation.
I've sat with bated breathe, ready to see how China's reasimmilation of a free Hong Kong would affect their social structure. Any improvement for the Chinese people will be a win for us. An educated population will only put up with oppression for so long.
Whether "China must become a technological innovator in order to advance economically." or not, we should not sit back in our comfy life and deny the right of an entire nation to a comprable lifestyle.
A child born in China and a child born in American have the same "unalienalbe rights" Woe be unto the goverment that denies those rights. And woe be unto the individual that begrudges others that right.
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Re: Re: How very elitist of you.
Couldn't resist a cheap shot I see, how Republican of you....
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I really don't care too much either way about this argument. But this here is too much. Only a liberal would put thier own agenda above the good of an entire nation? What!?!? I think you have your left and right switched around my friend.
Who attempts to screw their OWN nation over for profit? Big business. Who controls big business? Republicans for the most part. CONSERVATIVES.
Who refuses to reduce pollution in the US because it could hurt the American Economy? REPUBLICANS
I could go on and on... Try and get your facts straight next time...
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Allow room?
That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read.
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Re: Allow room?
That is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read.
Spoken like a true material-worshiping American....
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its china... come on!
oh wait. WE're the great and powerful us and we can do whaever we want
(if thais made any sense to you, then have a happy birthday!)
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Re: its china... come on!
To that end, I'd suggest everyone tell your reps to back R&D funding at the university level.
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Well...
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I've got two words for you.....
(Opps, that's just one word)
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spread the wealth
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Re: spread the wealth
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crippled by the communist culture
Perhaps it's due to the industry in which I work (high-tech lighting), and the people there are quite good at repetitive tasks that require little analysis (i.e.-thought), but I've found them difficult to deal with, even to the point of resisting or ignoring direct requests.
I believe the problem is the communist mindset, wherein one cannot be fired, one's place in society is assured, and innovation (at least in the "lower" classes) is discouraged. Even though their economy is making strides toward capitalism, their underlying culture remains largely apathetic. Who knows? Maybe this is a more peaceful way to spend one's life, but it isn't very productive and will continue to keep China off the world stage when it comes to real wealth building for many years to come. The Chinese people will just continue to be exploited by American industry and their own government.
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Huh?!?!
Yeah right. Our country is so great because of capitalism, not wealth redistribution like China/USSR/France and all of the other communist/socialist countries that have tried that path. Let the free market dictate the future and innovation and hard work will prevail. If American keeps getting lazier and acting like spoiled rich kids, we WILL lose our wealth. But if we wake up and work as hard as some of our LEGAL immigrants (India/China) then we will continue to prosper.
People need to quit complaining about the petty problems in our lives and take a look at how much better we have it than 90% of the rest of the world.
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Come on!
- China is producing the world’s first Green (eco-friendly) train.
- The worlds largest dam is being built in China (one dam will provide 10% of China's power
- One of only four countries to launch a human into space, on their own.
- Orange Chicken! Who would have ever thought oranges and chicken would go together so well.
China is a production leader but it is far from becoming a production country only. Do not let the news of the week (faked semi-conductor) cause you to have an uneducated opinion.
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Are those ventures economically viable? Those ventures will likely never make enough money to pay for themselves and they will be propped up as state run ventures.
Just remember this: No one other than perhaps the Non-EU Irish (Ireland, not the British Northern Ireland) have a work ethic comparable to the U.S. Our economic freedom and very low tax rates(compared to the rest of the world) coupled with that work ethic will sustain us for a long long time as long as China remains a communist minded country. I left Germany after re-unification because I could not stand to have to work with people who grew up in east germany. Communism made them totally apathetic about caring about their work quality / production.
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Yes, we have quite the work ethic 'Say, I can sit on my lazy ass because I'm in a union' Yep, it's great....
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Train: Slow and smalll
Damn: It is just a big wall. Wall of China is better example.
Chicken: Who eats yard bird anymore?
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What gives us the right?
The fact that we built the US type of lifestyle. You have a right only to what you are willing to invest in creating or maintaining.
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China's progress
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"It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." Charles Darwin
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American lifestyle is not self-sustaining for the
That being said, americans need to adjust their lifestyle to better serve the earth if we, as a species, are to survive another 1000 years...let alone 500.
(And even if americans lowered/decreased the cost of their lifestyle it would not allow china to come to an even level with the US, to do that americans would be practically where china is now.)
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Hmm
That's my opinion.
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That will be a problem between the Chinese and the Russians and the rest of the world won't give a shit and will stand aside.
WW3 happens only if the Chinese decide to retake Taiwan by force and the rest of the world tries to stop them. Right now an attempt by China at reunification by force would probably be the end of China as a nation for the time being.
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Reading this forum really depresses me ... some of the arguments seem dangerously insular ... way beyond the caricature 'American' attitude that we hear of in Europe...
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You were replying to my post. Frequently brevity gets in the way of balance.
An earlier post had suggested that China would trigger WW3 by seeking "living space" for its people. My view was that that was not likely since the most likely target would be Russia and the "rest of the world" would not intervene in such a conflict. Most of the rest of the world would not be capable of any intervention and even the western powers would have very limited means of intervention in such a ground based conflict.
The most likely scenarios for the start of a world war (that is a war which draws in multiple significant powers on both sides, has a large theatre of combat and threatens the survival as nations of some of the participants) seem to be: 1. Chinese invasion of Taiwan which would likely bring in American air defence of Taiwan followed by Japanese, Australian, and British contributions and possibly Canadian. (It would be basically a Sino-Anglo war but it would still be a world war.) 2. A nuclear strike on a Nato country which could be traced back to a national government in an Islamic country would automatically bring all of Nato to bear on the offending country and might draw in the Islamic world. 3. A nuclear strike by North Korea on South Korea or the United States. The resulting retaliation might draw in China. 4. An American attack on Iran which then draws in other parts of the Islamic world.
Chinese expansion into Russia is not nearly as likely to result in a spread of conflict as any of these other scenarios.
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You've got to be kidding
Well, I've wasted enough time on this.
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Innovation in China
www.chinalawblog.com
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this is so freakin' stupid
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