eBay Says You Can't Trust Google Checkout; Bans It From eBay

from the a-little-competitive-fun dept

Thu, Jul 6th 2006 10:32am — Mike Masnick

When Google released its Checkout offering last week, there was a lot of discussion over whether or not it was a Paypal competitor. Most people agreed that while it did some of the same things, it was really targeting a different market. Even eBay made some statements to that effect. However, eBay's actions suggest that they actually are quite worried about Checkout. They've now banned eBay sellers from using Google Checkout, claiming that it's not trustworthy, since Google does not have a "substantial historical track record of providing safe and reliable financial and/or banking related services." That seems like a pretty weak statement. If they just want to block out a competitor, that's one thing. However, claiming that Google isn't trustworthy enough in financial transactions is clearly the company just coming up with a random excuse to hide behind to avoid admitting that they're actually worried about the new competition from a big player.

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Zeroth404, 6 Jul 2006 @ 10:35am

I'll use it.
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tom, 6 Jul 2006 @ 10:45am

goopal
i have used paypal since 1999, and would gladly use google checout instead if it were offered in as many places. paypal is cool, but having is hooked up to my bank account is a little unnerving.
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Chris G, 6 Jul 2006 @ 10:49am

If Microsoft were to do somethign this proposterous, they would be sued left and right by every company with anything less than hot coffee spilt on their lap to use against them. Ebay tries to monopolize and it's "ok".

Hypocrits, the whole world.
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Meoip, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:40am

I'll sue
I'll sue ebay for this and force them to put the settlement into my Google checkout account.
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Mike, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:41am

I agree, I HATE having Paypal hooked to my bank account......
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Peet McKimmie (profile), 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:45am

Weren't Micro$oft buying eBay?
What happened to that, then?
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:46am

Paypal sucks! No really, i read it on the intraweb www.paypalsucks.com
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Sami, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:46am

PayPal is hardly trustworthy. They have a substantial historical track record of holding people's money indefinately with no explanation and nearly no assistance.

I welcome Google checkout as an altertative to PayPal. I can't wait until more sites start to accept it.
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Sam, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:52am

eBay bans Google Checkout
They did it because they CAN. And why not? Since they own/are PayPal - why allow the competetion in right from the start?

Google is BIG. eBay and PayPal are BIG, too.

Trust me, eBay will throw its weight around as long as it can - but they do have a point, Google's Checkout is NEW and they don't have a track record yet.

On the other hand, a LOT of us have heard the horror stories regarding PayPal, and their own, "substantial historical track record of providing safe and reliable financial and/or banking related services" are just questionable.

Hurry. Go buy the domain CheckoutSucks, GoogleCheckoutSucks if someone else hasn't already beat you to the punch.

PayPal is NOT a financial institution or a bank.

Pot. Kettle. Black.
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drinkmorejava, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:54am

Didn't google just say like two days ago that they wouldn't tolerate telecoms giving their video services priority and wouldn't have a problem sending off anti-trust lawsuits. I have a feeling this is somewhere along the same lines.
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matt, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:55am

Checkout != Paypal
Checkout is not an alternative to paypal at all. All it does it handle credit cards. You can accepts payments or send money to people.

Checkout really doesn't do anything like Paypal at all.
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Matt, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:58am

PayPal sucks but now we have a choice
Paypal does suck, verified buyers or not, they file a fake complaint and ops there goes your money back to the buyer. I hope Google is more respectful and does investigate buyers and sellers more carefully (i.e not based $$ revenue based income, just because we can fee doesn't mean you can!).
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JR, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:58am

Re: Checkout != Paypal
Checkout is like PayPal in the way it allows you to pay for things through a third party "solution."

Some solutions aren't answers.

Lawsuit coming down the pike, baby!
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garrett, 6 Jul 2006 @ 11:59am

I don't believe it's eBay's place to determine if Google is 'trustworthy' enough. If there was another competitor out there that was less of a threat in eBay's eyes I'm sure they wouldn't have banned them. No, the problem here is that Google has a history of creating reliable, innovative and just plain better products when they embark on an initiative. eBay is scared. To be honest I think PayPal could benefit from some REAL competition. News like this makes me want to support companies like Google.
And as has already been mentioned, PayPal hardly has a CLEAN record when it comes to securing their customer's data. Just my 2 cents
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WebmanGA, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:00pm

I had people try twice to hack my PAyPal account...hardly 100% secure
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Brad Jankins, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:03pm

FeeBay is all about the cash, just ask the sellers there. And, their right arm - PayPal is making them BUCKS. Big bucks.

Competition? So far no one has been able to sucessfully compete with monolithic eBay.

Anyone trying to compete with PayPal hasn't been as scary to them as Google is.
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Howard, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:05pm

I wonder...
I think I'll try putting both PayPal and Google Checkout on my website (violin and accessory sales), and make the Google Checkout a little cheaper.

Enough people leave ebay over this (most of the stuff listed on ebay isn't really suited to auction-style listings anyway), and they will relent. Either that, or Google will sue them for anti-trust (although that would take years, it could ultimately be the end of ebay).
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sowhat, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:08pm

Google auction
It is time for Google to start an auction site that can compete with ebay!!! I am sick of paypal and ebay!
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eBay user, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:08pm

eBay may as well grab its Corporate ankles and allow fair competition. The problem is they've sat in a high and mighty place for so long they've become an island unto themselves.

Come on Goog. Give the masses an alternative auction format, less fees and bull and frame your Checkout proudly.
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pangolin, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:08pm

Isn't Google Checkout also linked
So if you are a seller using Google Checkout isn't it linked to your checking account in order to pay you?
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alternatives are FAB!, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:12pm

YES agreed. If Google created an auction format site, lots of people will jump ebays ship.

Go GOOGLE. You can do it. Of all the companies alive you surely could as you have all of the human resources in place to make it happen and improve it.

Goodbye ebay.
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Matt, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:12pm

If it's like Adsense I'll take the monthly check any time over having it hitched to my checking account.
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One Eyed Jack, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:19pm

Feebay Sucks
I agree, Google should purchase the site LiveDeal.com and bury ebay once and for all...
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Idiots????, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:22pm

Ok???
So half you are pissed because ebay won't accept Google checkout? Well do they not have the right to use any type of payment system they want? How about all the retail store who do not take American Express? Or the ones who will only accept Discover Card? What about places who will not accept Checks but will accept your check card? Bottom line thats their right to do so and if you don't like it shop somewhere else. By the way I don't ebay!
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Fuzzhead, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:28pm

eBay using Differentiation as business strategy
Of course eBay is concerned. They should be. I don't think it's an invalid excuse, rather eBay is trying to reaffirm with their users that their PayPal service has a proven track record, and they are secure and trust-worthy. If a user is making a purchase, I think these are key components in their decision making process as to what service to select for purchases.
My Two Cents, Fuzzhead =8^)
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A.C., 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:30pm

Re: Ok???
That's not really the same argument because eBay is simply a marketplace for individual users it should be up to the individual seller to decide how you may pay. (This IS how it is.) For example as a seller I can refuse to use paypal and request check. What eBay has done is say 'As a seller you can't accept this payment method'. Which I believe might be a first. I know they have rules like 'you can't only accept money orders' but I do not recall a rule banning any specific payment method. This is room for an anti-competitive lawsuit.

This will be short lived, I recommend everyone with a seller account contact ebay and requesting google checkout be allowed. If nothing else it will keep their support busy.
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Matt Thomas, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:33pm

Google vs PayPal
I have had PayPal since 1995, They have always provided me with good services, but there are always the stories of people having accounts locked out. Sometimes the accounts were locked out for good, leaving all funds in the account lost.
I have also used google for many features, such as Google AdWords, and profited off of it. So I trust google to get me my money. Never was a check late, never were my funds held agianst the legal agreements.
Overall, I do prefer the google agreement policies, so I would have to side with them.

--I'm the guy that reads the agreements that you click past all the time, and on weekends, I read the fine print at the bottom of TV commercials... "Hey, It's a living"
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durtgurl, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:35pm

Re: I wonder...
"I think I'll try putting both PayPal and Google Checkout on my website..."

This is exactly the reason why eBay is banning Checkout... It says in the eBay user agreement that you cannot charge more for a product simply because someone uses PayPal to buy it. It seems logical that people will do this on their own sites, so by keeping Checkout off of eBay, they prevent the whole-hearted switch based solely on pricing.
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Vibeulator, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:39pm

Retaliation
Couldn't Google simply retaliate by excluding eBay from their search results, or by forcing a lower PageRank for any URLs that contain the eBay domain name?
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Sly, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:40pm

Don't shop there...
If you don't like something that a ebay is doing, don't shop there. There's many other places to get "deals" on stuff. There's Froogle.com, mySimon.com, Shopping.com (and eBay company), etc.

I agree that Google or someone else should create a better Auction than eBay.
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LOL at the REAL idiot, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:41pm

Re: Ok???
There goes the eBay staff again...
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Jerry, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:47pm

Re: Don't shop there...
Hell YES Google could do a far better job of competing with ebay than anyone else. They have the resources.

It's a great idea for Google to ban ebay from the search terms in "retail"liation.

Especially from Froogle LOL sorta like when we "ban" exports and imports from countries for whatever reasons... can't think of the word!
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Sam, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:48pm

I'd love to see Google and eBay go head to head like some have suggested!
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Comboman, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:51pm

Flawed analogy
Well do they not have the right to use any type of payment system they want? How about all the retail store who do not take American Express?
The problem is, eBay is not like a retail store, when you shop on eBay you are not actually buying anything from eBay; the individual sellers on eBay are like retail stores. They should be able to accept or not accept whatever form of payment they want (and other than Google checkout, they can; not all eBay sellers accept Paypal, and many accept it but prefer money orders/bank transfers/etc, even offering discounts for other methods of payment). A better analogy would be the owner of a shopping mall saying no stores in the mall can accept American Express but they are free to accept or deny any other form of payment they wish.
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Fred K, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:54pm

Re: Flawed analogy
It's eBay's baby - and because they are-own PayPal they can do whatever they want, and they are. Clearly.

In the auction format they take a "hands off" approach mostly when there are problems and want the people involved to "work it out" because they always claim that they represent and created the forum that brings strangers together to make the deals. Essentially it becomes you problem.

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
-Noam Chomsky
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drinkmorejava, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:54pm

Didn't google just say like two days ago that they wouldn't tolerate telecoms giving their video services priority and wouldn't have a problem sending off anti-trust lawsuits. I have a feeling this is somewhere along the same lines.
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Ron John, 6 Jul 2006 @ 12:58pm

Re:
Go get 'em Google.
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Dave, 6 Jul 2006 @ 1:00pm

Oh, sure, I believe Ebay.
That's pretty funny that Ebay would invoke trustworthiness in rejecting Google Cash. It's just incredibly obvious that they're worried about competition, and they have to explain why they cut competitors out, so they make up some BS. Standard corporate procedure.

I don't see how they could enforce this anyway. Many sites simply direct you to their website to pay with your credit card, and they could have anything on their own website.

I do use Ebay and Paypal, but I would prefer to have more alternatives, not fewer. I have read paypalsucks.com, and it's pretty grim. I'd recommend checking that out even if you plan to continue using Paypal.
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Chris, 6 Jul 2006 @ 1:04pm

Into GooBay or Eoogle
Ok, EBay throws its weight around. Google answers with its own version of an online auction house. Oh, but wait. It ties to Google checkout and google maps and google search and google.....
See where this is going. I may be wrong, but if I look for a car or couch or huge lamp or whatever large item I am looking to buy, I think it would be cool to see all the auctions on a map so I can choose the best shipping or arrange pickup. If I am looking for a cd, and I search google for it and I see there is an auction for it, I may want to look into it. Good job Google, your heading in the right direction. Shame on you EBay, for not recognizing the desires of your customers.
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Rogue Leader X, 6 Jul 2006 @ 1:13pm

Re: Ok???
"Well do they not have the right to use any type of payment system they want?"

This isn't the question, the question is do they have the right to dicate how paying users of their services accept payment. As they've done this for years, I doubt many ebay sellers are surprised. I'll be more interested to see if Google says on the 'do not use' list for more than 60 months or a year. How long does it take to establish a 'proven trackrecord?'
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Boris, 6 Jul 2006 @ 1:14pm

If eBay was actually looking at PROVEN TRACKRECORD, they'd have to slap themselves.
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Michael, 6 Jul 2006 @ 1:32pm

One problem with Google CheckOut...
If you have a business that offers downloads only as your product, you cannot use GoogleCheckout. It was not designed for that, only tangible goods.

(Per GoogleCheckout Support Team)

FYI....
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Petréa Mitchell, 6 Jul 2006 @ 2:17pm

Think SOX
It's possible that this springs somehow from Sarbanes-Oxley. Remember that its intended purpose was not to make life difficult for IT people but to guarantee the quality of financial controls. eBay's auditor might conceivably object to a significant portion of eBay's transactions being processed by a company that just entered the financial sector last month.

(Of course, this doesn't rule out eBay also wanting to block Google Checkout because it competes with PayPal...)
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BL, 6 Jul 2006 @ 2:30pm

FeeBay & PayPal
I welcome the competition! eBay & PayPal got over $30k of my money last year in fees and commissions.
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graham, 6 Jul 2006 @ 2:43pm

Re: Weren't Micro$oft buying eBay?
eeurgh!!! if M$ bought ebay, I couldn't allow myself to buy ANYTHING non-consumable at all.

wow, scary thought.
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Mousky, 6 Jul 2006 @ 6:54pm

Re:
Care to cite your source that PayPal has a "substantial historical track record of holding people's money indefinately"? I have used PayPal to make and receive payments and have never had any payments held by PayPal. Until you post some solid evidence, I call BS.
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Mousky, 6 Jul 2006 @ 7:01pm

Re:
This is a typical narrow viewpoint of competition. Sure, eBay dominates the online auction sector, but they have plenty of competition from online retailers, brick and mortar retailers, yard/garage sales, online bulletin boards at work and so on.
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Mousky, 6 Jul 2006 @ 7:10pm

Re: Retaliation
Since eBay is the dominant online auction house, it is unliklely that excluding eBay from search results or manipulating PageRank would hurt eBay. If anything, it would likely hurt the thousands of merchants who rely on eBay to earn a living.
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Mousky, 6 Jul 2006 @ 7:12pm

Re:
I have a feeling you are wrong. Besides, filing an anti-trust lawsuit is one thing. Winning it is another. In the end it's the consumer that gets screwed.
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John, 6 Jul 2006 @ 8:59pm

What percent of online auctions go through eBay?
I'm willing to bet that it's more than 90% ... which was the threshold of pain to call Microsoft a monopoly. eBay is abusing their monopoly status in one field to create a monopoly in another.
In a free market -- one without the aid and support of a monopoly -- PayPal would disappear or drastically improve their customer service.
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Anonymous Coward, 7 Jul 2006 @ 4:46pm

The reasons they state for not accepting GC are exactly the reasons why I refuse to use paypal.

You can google paypal and sucks to read for yourself exactly how badly they treat everyone that makes them money vendors and buyers alike.

Now all we need is for Google to come up with an auction site & I can forget all about Ebay
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Learjet, 9 Jul 2006 @ 12:15pm

GooBay
If Ebay/Paypal want to "up the ante" then so be it. Just watch how long it takes Google to introduce it's own auction service.

Let the games begin.
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Smart Guy, 10 Jul 2006 @ 7:50am

Re: Ok???
Ummm.. Hey Sherlock. I guess we now know who the idiot is. eBay are not the seller so they shouldn't get to choose the payment method.

Yes, retail store can choose what payment methods they accept but the Mall they are located in can't prevent them from taking Visa, M/C or AMEX.

eBay is essentially an online mall except it's an auction format. eBay sells nothing stupid!

Maybe you should think before you open your mouth!
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firemeg, 10 Jul 2006 @ 6:14pm

What ever happened to eBay being just a venue?
That question has long ago become cliche'. eBay execs used it as a crutch years ago to wriggle out of any tight or uncomfortable situations that users put them in by listing questionable items or committing fraud. Now, sellers and buyers alike long for the days when it WAS a venue and not a monopolistic, controlling Big Brother out to gobble up internet capital to pad their shrinking revenue numbers.

eBay stock has been in a slow but progressive decline since winter 2004 when they took a big dump all over their sellers and raised fees by seemings astronomical percentages. CEO Meg Whitman seems to think that expanding into the furthest reaches of the solar system will increase revenue, yet eBay can't maintain a cohesive site at eBay.com.

This lack of innovation and inability to controll fraud makes eBay take a defensive stand to protect their core business. Rather than make it better, they only try to protect it from competitors. They got rid of Bidpay because it was hurting Paypal revenue, and now they prevent Google Checkout from being used. Freedoms are dwindling every day for ebay users, anyone who sells there for a living knows this.

Google should block all eBay URL's from their search results in retaliation. Trying to do research and sorting through pages of eBay results when you don't want to see them in the first place is annoying. If eBay wants to act like children, let Google do the same - It would be welcomed by many.
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HYPOCRITES, 11 Jul 2006 @ 4:20pm

I can guarantee you that at the end of the day you
As the title states. You all probably will still end up using eBay. It's quite funny how you can complain that eBay is only a venue and they have no right telling you what payments you can use. And yet, if you get defrauded, you go running to eBay blaming them for what happened. I believe they are trying to do their best taking a hands off approach to how the site is run and letting the community decide what is best. But they have also implemented steps to ensure that it still remains a safe place to trade. The reasons why they are not permitting checkout at this time are pretty reasonable. You may also find it interesting to note that Google Checkout isn't backed by a financial institution. Most big online payment companies are. Meaning, if they go belly-up you still have some options
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L. Blass, 13 Jul 2006 @ 12:30am

PayPal has destroyed legitimate small businesses
A simple false accusation by a buyer, or the personal prejudices of "Eric" in PayPal's Acceptable Use Department may be enough to get your PayPal account permanently suspended, and have ALL of your money locked up for at least 6 months (and from what I've heard, frequently much longer).

Yes, there are all the horror stories at www.nopaypal.com, and there are those who like to say, "I've used PayPal for years without a problem," but that's the point. Once you've accumulated a substantial balance and you least expect it, PayPal can throw just about any accusation against you that they wish and you are doomed. There's no legitimate "appeal" process, what they say is the law.

My own small business was destroyed by PayPal and a signficant amount of money was locked up for 6 months and counting. They're supposed to have given my money back by now, but no dice. To make matters worse, they terminated my merchant account associated with my PayPal account and even terminated by PERSONAL PayPal account just to add some insult to injury. A merchant trying to charge my PayPal credit card was told that my card was "void."

Monopoly power allows a company such as the Nebraska-based PayPal to get so out of hand that they destroy people's livelihoods without a care or concern in the world as long as enough $$$ is rolling in.

I'm sure there are thousands of other burned sellers like myself ready to spread the gospel about Google Checkout.
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Unknown, 13 Jul 2006 @ 7:40pm

Re: Ok???
YOU'RE the one that's an idiot! eBay is akin to a classified ad system. They have NO say on what type of payments the person who posted the ad should accept! Your argument of the retail store is flawed. The store is NOT eBay, the store is the person LISTING the item! THEY are the ones who dictate what payments they accept. Idiot.

In reply to:
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So half you are pissed because ebay won't accept Google checkout? Well do they not have the right to use any type of payment system they want? How about all the retail store who do not take American Express? Or the ones who will only accept Discover Card? What about places who will not accept Checks but will accept your check card? Bottom line thats their right to do so and if you don't like it shop somewhere else. By the way I don't ebay!
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NoPayPalAtAll, 13 Jul 2006 @ 7:46pm

Re: Re:
I'll pitch in as well regarding PayPal...

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http://www.paypalwarning.com/

Since PayPal is NOT a bank, they do not need to follow federal banking regulations. These regulations are in place to help the "Average Joe" avoid issues like having their bank account frozen for 6 months with no explanation...(Imagine if your bank was permitted to do that!)

Because PayPal is not regulated in the same way as a Real Merchant Account, Paypal accounts are frozen for almost anything and without warning. The account can usually receive money while it is frozen, but it certainly cannot withdrawal money. Once an account is frozen, the funds are often held by PayPal for months on end with Absolutely No Recourse for the merchant.

Merchants finding themselves on the wrong end of a frozen Paypal account will still have to find some way to pay their obligations and fill orders for the weeks and months while the account is restricted. A domino effect occurs when a merchant's account is frozen, leaving them with No Means To Fill Orders. Those orders are then disputed by customers, creating more chargebacks and the illusion of fraudulent activity on the part of the merchant.

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=== RESEARCH ==========================================================================================

PayPal reverses payments to suppliers, puts money in buyers account, then locks buyer account
http://wsacp.vendio.com/mesg/read.html?num=47&thread=5226

VERY Good Compilation of Issues with PayPal
http://www.ygoodman.com/paypal.asp

Auctionbytes recently did a survey of sellers and this little tidbit was among the results: "10% of sellers have had a buyer do a chargeback on a purchase when using an online payment service, and 8% of sellers have had their account frozen by an online payment service due to a problem buyer or by error." As cynical about payment service as I am, these numbers scared even me. I would never have guessed that the problems were this bad. Even a 1% rate would be bad enough. Would you open an account with a bank that said, "We routinely shut down 1% of our accounts with no warning for security reasons"? Would you open a store where the landlord has the right to lock you out of your own store for weeks on an unsubstantiated complaint, even if he only did this 1% of the time? Why are sellers entrusting their entire business to a heavy-handed "partner" whose actions violate every rule of business management or ethics?

Class action together for Canadians who have been victimized by Paypal. I'm literally going to be evicted because they put my funds on hold - and I know others have been put in horrible situations.
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=11787

Remove Bank Account - Deposit never showed
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=12844

Direct Debit Indemnity - PayPal withdraw funds without consent
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=17&tid=12744

Filing Under EFTA for unauthorized freezing of funds, RE: lawsuit
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=12443

Block PayPal ACH - Breach of DPA and FSA Regulations, file for fraud if PayPal removes money
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=11562

Since they are NOT regulated like a bank the can "try" but NOT legally come after you.
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=11603

At the time PayPal decided they were going to take these fees, I had started a transfer of money from my PayPal account to my bank account - they stopped that transaction part way through so that they would be sure of getting their fees - this in turn is causing me hardship as i now have to wait longer for the remaining funds to arrive at my bank account. PayPal seem to be a law unto themselves. We are about to contact the FSA regarding this matter.
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=17&tid=12167

After sending letter from attorney, PayPal turned hostile against seller
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=12285

PayPals collection attempts are as obfuscated, unethical and underhanded as their convoluted U[ser]A[greement]... and they know it.
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=10911

Close your bank account and open another, or file a document with your bank disallowing PayPal to take money out of yuor account. You do not need to go to another bank - but you are right, get the money out of that account pronto!
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=10920

Filed complaints with the BBB, FTC, Consumer Fraud Center & CA Attorney General.
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=10874

Your money is only safe if you close your bank and credit card accounts on file with them.
http://nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=9881

PayPal debits money from an account not even on their system
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=6502

Paypal is a haven to protect crooks and rob the common man. They treat crooks like Gods and honest people like dirt. Paypal has no corcern with people being ripped off as long as they get their cut of the pie. I was ripped off for $122.00 and they froze my paypal account with my money tied up in it, they have asked me for every thing but a urine sample.
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=1254&block=90

Paypal screwed me that i almost got evicted. i was and still am counting on that money so i need all the help i can get. paypal told me i hade to wait 6 months before i can do anything with my money. so please help me out in this matter. thanks so much for this website.
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=1254&block=465

The safest way to ensure that PP can't take money out of her bank account is to close the account and any credit and debit cards she had on the ebay and PP accounts.
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=12202

Paypal did this to 3 people I know including myself it is due to high volume accounts. Paypal will freeze your account for up to 6 months and they will ask you for endless documents just as an excuse to lock the funds (you do realize meanwhile they reinvest those locked funds). They wanted contact info for my suppliers, and all types of sensitive personal information after that. Sorry to say man, but you are ****ed, they will drag this out for 6 months then they will close your account at the end, its unavoidable.
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=11437

closing your bank account and credit card that is on your Paypal is the safest way to go
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=12536

Open a free checking to be attached to the PP account only. Always transfer the money to your free cheking acct that is connected to PP. Do not use this account for anything else just use it as a temporary holding account. Once the funds are into this account transfer them to another account that is not in any way connected to PP. This is the safest way I have found at the moment.
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=7181

Be thankful you emptied your paypal account when you did - a lot of us weren't so lucky. To be ultra safe from them if I was you i'd cancel (or report lost) all credit cards linked to paypal and close the bank account linked to them (if you had one linked). Also delete or change any info you have registered with them (like address, or telephone numbers etc).
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=17&tid=12070

NEVER LEAVE MONEY IN YOUR PP ACCOUNT. They can not be trusted and may keep your money for up to 180 days or more as they are NOT regulated like a bank.
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=11949

Another usual case of frozen/limited accounts and extortion from PayPal
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=12291

Withdraw it [money] as it comes in and 5100 was on its way to my bank account and paypal stopped it and froze my account
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=12298

It should be noted that many issues PAYPAL and eBay cause are of for lack of a better way to put it of questionable legality.
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=12107

I sold my pc on eBay for around $1200 and once I recieved the payment via paypal I tried to transfer the money to my banck account and paypal stopped it
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=12510

I recommend withdrawing ALL your money from PayPal NOW (at the rate of less than US$2000 per day) because PayPal have a very high tendency to decide that they want to keep your money for some real or imagined reason.)
http://www.nopaypal.com/forums/showthread.php?fid=3&tid=8232

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Patrick, 15 Jul 2006 @ 7:21pm

the can't sue retards
ebay doesn't allow over 10 other processors... it's there site then can choose who they want on it.
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bob, 17 Jul 2006 @ 4:12pm

ebay sucks
I hate Ebay gastapo tatics. THey are getting out of hand. next they will ask for a blood sample. How can we stop Ebay from this bad behavior? Ebay must be stopped!
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Jay, 20 Jul 2006 @ 9:47pm

How does PayPal get away with it???
I've been reading all the PayPal horror stories and also had my own business destroyed after PayPal locked up a substantial sum of my money for 180 days with an absurd excuse and refusal to explain their behavior other than robotically reciting rules that simply were irrelevant.

How does PayPal get away with it? Does anyone know if they're protected at high levels of government? Does anyone know whom the PayPal execs have contributed political payments? Someone needs to get to the bottom of this.
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Erdbeere, 23 Jul 2006 @ 9:40pm

I checked out “Google-checkout”.
The overall process seems to be very easy but exactly that makes this solution very vulnerable. During checkout there was no security question to make sure that I’m indeed the owner of the Google account or the associated Credit Cards in that account. Of course I used my username and password but because there are so many Google sites, using the same username and password, it is very easy to loose your login information on a hijacking page as you might not check the url for Ad-Words or Gmail every time you log on as those services never had the possibility to shop with your Credit Card.
Now because you have one account and login information for all it is quite possible that hackers will try to get your login information from any Google service out there! Even worth is the fact that the hacker can change the password without any problem. The owner of the account might not even get any information about the password change as the e-mail is sent to the according and hijacked Gmail account.
Because of this HUGE security risk I would not recommend using Google checkout!
Please checkout the http://www.thebilliondollarpatent.com as s-registration solution that Google should have implemented in their service to make it solid and secure. This solution is requiring a third credential called TAN to make sure that ONLY the owner of that account is able to shop online even in case the account is hijacked.
I hope that everybody is aware of the security issue with Google checkout and will inform Google of a better solution!
Thanks and be safe;-)))!!
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paypalsucks, 31 Jul 2006 @ 9:33am

blah hoser crap we all know why egay banned them
its cause the bltchs at egay knows that google will be the end of paypal if people used it on ebay there alot cheaper they dont LIMT accounts like fcking shitpal dose and there 1000 times safer then that pethice severice called paypal

and btw i use google on ebay every day cause ebay can suck my nuts if they then they can tell me what payment processer to use.
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fuckebay, 31 Jul 2006 @ 9:38am

google gbay is comeing soon
well we wont have to put up with ebays shit much longer there word about google launching a free auction severice so bye bye bay they will be the ones begging google to let them accept paypal in its auction severice and by banning google off ebay is only fueling googles fire and by doing this is all the better to open a better auction site and beat ebay ass down into the ground were they belong :)

and any one who disagress like the unkonw bitch above can suck my dick :)~
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David, 23 Sep 2006 @ 3:20am

Re: eBay bans Google Checkout
Hello - this service is not new - as they do have a long track record in payment from their adsense and adwords program. Plus they had an official audit done as required by law and they passed their audit. You can't tell me that if someone like KPMG comes in an give you an OK with their audit, that they are not safe - give me a break

Ebay and Paypal suck - and finally Google is steping up to the bat and hopefully sooner our later we won't have to pay out the ass on comissions to use their services.

Good job Google!
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EBAY SPYIES, 23 Sep 2006 @ 12:06pm

MONEY VAMPIRES!
I CAN SEE THAT EBAY IS PUTTING THEIR SPYIES OUT EVERYWHERE! JUST CHECK OUT THE SHIT THAT ERDBEERE WROTE ON JULY THE 23RD!

FUCK YOU EBAY AND PAYPAL - YOU VAMPIRES!
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dugu, 11 Oct 2006 @ 3:40pm

Re:
have you signed up for google checkout? it's the same thing. Your bank account needs to be hooked.
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DNELL, 8 Dec 2006 @ 6:58am

Google Checkout is not secure and many Bugs!
Dude anyone trying google checkout is totally taking a huge risk with security and privacy. Does anyone know how long its taken PayPal to create a secure system? Years! and Google thinks they’ve done it in 6 months. yeah right.

PayPal has hundreds of people working in security alone. They also have an FBI department right in paypal to help combat fraud. Google has a total of 0 people in these departments.

I think google making 3 Billion a Quarter needs to spend the money on this. Otherwise company’s will never support this system. I surprised its even being used during XMAS most important time of year.

Should have tested it better and after the holidays.

I’ll never leave paypal, yeah the fees are higher than google checkout but I know I’m secure with PayPal. :lol:

-Donald
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DNELL, 8 Dec 2006 @ 7:01am

Re: blah hoser crap we all know why egay banned th
DUDE you don't know anything about business do you? Well to let you know checkout will be the same fees as paypal in about 2 years. This gimmicks are to get you to leave and go there. Once they have you the fees will rise.

Wake up and smell the coffee!
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junester, 8 Dec 2006 @ 6:57pm

Google Checkout does not checkout!
The Google Checkout service is about the worst service I have ever used. They do not have ANYONE working in their so-called Customer Service department. I have been dealing with them for 8days now, trying to get info on something that I ordered and then cancelled the next day. Well, in spite of the fact that they took the money out of my account, they don't respond to e-mails or else send generic e-mails telling me how to check my order status which never says anything but IN PROGRESS. I have no f'g merchandise, no shipping or delivery info, no way to find out any of this and now I'm out $325.00!@!@! Everyone talks out it being great because they have a lot of freebies - well I wasn't offered nor did I get any freebies and I didn't want any - I just wanted the stuff I ordered or my money back, which I did not get, and they have done nothing to help!!!!
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Mike, 15 Dec 2006 @ 11:47am

Google Checkout is a nightmare......
Ordered from 3 different stores using Google checkout 3 weeks ago and have received 1 item. The other 2 stores claim they have never received the order even though Google Checkout shows it "In Progress". I even reordered 1 item via the store website without Google Checkout and it arrived in the mail the same day I got an e-mail from Google Checkout telling me that they couldn't process my order because the product was out of stock (if it was out of stock, how the hell was I able to order it in the first place!!@#*$&#*). The other order is still in limbo land and there is no one to talk to at Google and the store can't cancel the order because they don't have it! But if Google sends it over one day it will ship! Absolutely worthless. Reality is that you aren't paying for your product when you go through Google Checkout. It is like you are placing the order with Google and they will eventually get around to placing it with the store and you better hope they didn't run out of product. There is not a direct connection that I can see. Stay away until they fix it!
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J M, 18 Dec 2006 @ 8:57am

Google Checkout: You Pay - Get Nothing
Google Checkout charges your credit card before your order ships. You might be ringing up a credit card bill and get nothing in return if the merchant does not ship your order.

I ordered an in stock item from buy.com on Dec. 6th. Google Checkout charged my credit card immediately. Buy.com never sent my order because it turns out the item is not in stock, it is on indefinite backorder. It took more than a week of contacting buy.com and Google Checkout to find out why my order never shipped.

There is a conflict in the Google Checkout Program policy and what buy.com says Google Checkout policy is.

Google Checkout Program policy:

“As a Google Checkout merchant, you’re required to adhere to the Google Checkout policies at all times.

2. Order Management

b. Ship orders before charging the buyer’s credit card. You may not attempt to charge the buyer’s credit card until you have
shipped the order.”

http://checkout.google.com/seller/policies.html

What buy.com says Google Checkout policy is:

“Please note that you are billed though your item has not yet shipped. This is one of the unique policies when purchasing through GoogleCheckout.

For more questions on GoogleCheckout policies, please visit our Buy.com help site. Under Pricing and Billing click on “What are my payment choices?”. Then, choose Google check out or you can simply copy paste the following link in your address box:

http://www.buy.com/corp/support/billing/google.asp”

Buy.com policy for customers not using Google Checkout:

“When will my credit card be charged? Since we don’t think you should pay for your order until it is actually on its way, Buy.com will not bill you until your products, including backordered or preordered items, are actually shipped. In
the case of Music Downloads we will bill you at the time of purchase.”

http://www.buy.com/corp/support/billing/creditcards.asp?what=whencharged

Google Checkout support knows that I (and many others - this is a growing problem, and not just with buy.com) have been charged for merchandise that has not been shipped and that the merchant can’t even give an estimate on when the item will be available - if ever.

They have done nothing about it. The charge is on my credit card statement. I have nothing to show for it.

If Google Checkout can’t be trusted to require merchants to “adhere to the Google Checkout policies at all times,” why should consumers trust Google Checkout with sensitive financial and personal information at all?

They shouldn’t. Period.

Don’t use Google Checkout.

More than 40 unhappy Google Checkout users on Kirby Witmer's blog, "Google Checkout Flunks":
http://www.kirb.com/Blog/index.php/2006/07/19/google-checkout-flunks
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DON, 18 Dec 2006 @ 1:47pm

GOOGLE SUCKS
GOOGLE CANCELED MY ORDER WHEN I PURCHASED 30 GIFT CARDS AT 10 BUCKS OFF, CLAIMED I DIDNT UPDATE MY CREDIT CARD BUT I DID AND ALSO ORDERED 3 ITEMS USING THAT VERY UPDATED CREDIT CARD. RUINED A GREAT SUPRISE FOR MY FAMILY- WAS GOING TO GIVE THESE TO MY KIDS WHEN WE TOOK A FAMILY TRIP TO NY FOR CHRISTMAS, EMAILED THEM MANY TIMES AND NOW THEY JUST GIVE ME THE RUNAROUND, FORGET GOOGLE CHECKOUT , POSITIVLY CRUMMY CUSTOMER SERVICE.
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J M, 19 Dec 2006 @ 8:58am

Google Checkout: You Pay - Get Nothing, cont.
Google Checkout responded to me:

"Thanks for bringing this to my attention, JM. All
merchants integrate Checkout in different ways,
and have unique billing and shipping policies. If you
are concerned that your order will not arrive in the
timeframe you expected you should contact the
merchant to cancel your order. I will follow up with
this merchant to make sure their policies work with ours.

GoogleCheckout"

My response to Google Checkout:

So, to clarify, Google Checkout does not require merchants to adhere to Google Checkout Program Policies, and expects customers using Google Checkout to risk their money by paying in advance for orders that may never be filled?

You have got to be kidding.

People who have tried to cancel their orders report that they get nowhere with this; they get no credit to their account, just the runaround. The merchant says to contact Google Checkout because they are
the ones who charged the customers account, not the merchant. Google Checkout says to contact the merchant who then says there's nothing they
can do, Google Checkout charged the customer.

When they do finally get someone willing to take responsibility for this, they are then told that it will take 5-10 business days for their refund to process. Why does it take 5-10 days for a refund when the charge was posted to their accounts immediately?

The complaints are pretty widespread and all involve the use of Google Checkout when buying from several major e-tailers.

A lot of people have just gotten fed up with this and filed a fraudulent charge complaint with their credit card companies, starting the process of a chargeback.
But, they are told it may take as much as 60 days to resolve the issue.

Some people have been socked with credit card interest for merchandise they never received because it was never shipped, and is not likely to ever ship.

Why on earth should buyers trust Google Checkout?

Either Google Checkout or the e-tailers are holding on to a lot of money for orders that were never filled and merchandise that was never shipped.

Google Checkout just throws buyers into third party payment processing hell.

This is not the "fast, convenient, and safe online shopping experience" that the Google Checkout program claims as its goal.

J M
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J M, 19 Dec 2006 @ 8:58am

Google Checkout: You Pay - Get Nothing, cont.
Google Checkout responded to me:

"Thanks for bringing this to my attention, JM. All
merchants integrate Checkout in different ways,
and have unique billing and shipping policies. If you
are concerned that your order will not arrive in the
timeframe you expected you should contact the
merchant to cancel your order. I will follow up with
this merchant to make sure their policies work with ours.

GoogleCheckout"

My response to Google Checkout:

So, to clarify, Google Checkout does not require merchants to adhere to Google Checkout Program Policies, and expects customers using Google Checkout to risk their money by paying in advance for orders that may never be filled?

You have got to be kidding.

People who have tried to cancel their orders report that they get nowhere with this; they get no credit to their account, just the runaround. The merchant says to contact Google Checkout because they are
the ones who charged the customers account, not the merchant. Google Checkout says to contact the merchant who then says there's nothing they
can do, Google Checkout charged the customer.

When they do finally get someone willing to take responsibility for this, they are then told that it will take 5-10 business days for their refund to process. Why does it take 5-10 days for a refund when the charge was posted to their accounts immediately?

The complaints are pretty widespread and all involve the use of Google Checkout when buying from several major e-tailers.

A lot of people have just gotten fed up with this and filed a fraudulent charge complaint with their credit card companies, starting the process of a chargeback.
But, they are told it may take as much as 60 days to resolve the issue.

Some people have been socked with credit card interest for merchandise they never received because it was never shipped, and is not likely to ever ship.

Why on earth should buyers trust Google Checkout?

Either Google Checkout or the e-tailers are holding on to a lot of money for orders that were never filled and merchandise that was never shipped.

Google Checkout just throws buyers into third party payment processing hell.

This is not the "fast, convenient, and safe online shopping experience" that the Google Checkout program claims as its goal.

J M
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Pissed @ Google, 29 Dec 2006 @ 8:59am

GOOGLE CHECKOUT SUCKS!!
Wow, can I tell you about my first (and only) GC purchase? What a rip! The "merchant" turned out to be bogus and I am still fighting google for a refund. I never got what I payed for and waited 3 days for a response from the GC team. When they did reply, they got my name wrong (not even close) and got everything else about my request wrong. It was a total lack of respect for me and for my situation. I have had to get Visa in the mix and file a formal complaint (and investigation) into the (so called) merchant and (sadly enough) Google. It has been over a week now and still have not heard from the merchant and have had only one half-assed attempt at communication from Google.

Very sad indeed.

Google, if you are reading this, stick to search engines. You have no business getting into this market.

I really hope that Google gets over this "TEST" of the Google Checkout system and moves on to what they do best, giving us free crap to waste time with ... oh and the maps!!

Sorry Google, I gave you a chance and you blew it, bigtime! Maybe you should spend some of those record profits on better customer support???

...end of rant...
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jan 2007 @ 7:17pm

Google Checkout
Google checkout has done nothing but cause problems for me and is unable to reliably store credit card information creating the appearance of a rejected card without being able to process a payment.
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wally, 30 Jan 2007 @ 10:47am

google checkout sucks. They kept 10K and i lost everything. Even my house. Those fu*&king assholes will get whats coming to them. They rip off people everyday. Thinking they are better than everyone else.They need to take that stick out of their asses and that big umbrella they are sitting under and start running a legit business.
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Hisham, 6 Mar 2007 @ 11:57am

Please help! I cancelled my purchase at GC and sti
Please help! I cancelled my purchase at GC and still no Refund.

I lost total confident over GC and their sellers. GC has sent a mail saying my order is cancelled but still I creditcard amount is not credited back in bank account....

Please help anyone with same experience....
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Todd Gilbert, 23 Apr 2007 @ 3:52pm

Re: Google auction
Amen to this comment. When Google rolls out an auction site watch the marathn that will ensue. People will leave Ebay in an instant. Their constant price gouging, non-existent customer service, excuses for issues that they self-create to justify why they kick you off. They only want you off if you are s mall player or take too much of their bandwidth selling smaller priced items. They have no competition yet! Yet! Watch what happens when Google shows up and they WILL be showing up.
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Cyrus Damania, 14 May 2007 @ 2:28pm

Google Checkout
I ordered something from a company called Cellsf.com on April 17th, 2007. Google charged my AMEX card but today is May 14, 2007 and still no merchandise. I have sent 4 emails to the seller through checkout website but looks like no is on the other end.

Google needs to learn a lesson from Amazon.com who actually follows with a customer survey email and who actually fights for their customers with their thierd party vendors.

No more Google checkout.
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Dejan, 22 May 2007 @ 12:29pm

Why google checkout sucks REAL BAD!!!!
1) NO LIVE SUPPORT.
2) NO payment security. A merchant ripped me off... no answer from google or merchant. Thank God I sued a credit card.
3) Horrible interface system. Compare it to PayPal.
I am not a big fan of paypal, but google checkout does not even come close.
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Ebay was right to block Google checkout, 28 Jun 2007 @ 3:32pm

They have my money, I have no product.
Google checkout doesn't seem to care what happens after they get you CC#. I ordered in Nov of 2006 Still no product. Slow response from Google and form e-mails from the merchant. I need a phone number of a live customer service person.
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Anonymous Coward, 6 Jul 2007 @ 6:26am

I agree
It seems like a lot of people in a really short time have had problems with google checkout with fake/bogus sellers. I've been ripped off and will certainly will never use google checkout again.
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Isaac, 12 Aug 2007 @ 9:50pm

google checkout is a MERCHANT - not a RESOLUTION S
Many people seem to be confused about what google checkout is. All they do is process the credit card. Unlike paypal, who offers resolution, google checkout is the same as if you swipe your card at walmart. If your products at walmart break a day later and walmart won't let you return, who do you call? The credit card processor for walmart? Or your credit card? That answer is obvious, and the same answer goes for if you buy something with google checkout. Call your credit card. You will get a pretty much instant refund, and that vendor will have a chargeback which puts them ever closer to not being able to accept credit cards anymore.
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Davey C, 26 Nov 2007 @ 1:36pm

Paypal V Google Checkout
I think that EBay’s reason to ban checkout is flawed. Not only is google a big company & well known company now, but it has for the past year been offering it’s services to some well known online retailers. Not only is checkout simple, its problem free.
I personally am sick & tired of having my paypal account limited every time I receive a payment from someone, just to be asked to verify my bank account, cc, name, id n so forth time & time again. My last straw with paypal was when I received £178 in a transfer, which was from a friends paypal to mine, which was money owed. My account was limited for 5 months because they requested me to verify myself, however I could not because I had already verified my cc, bank & could not verify it twice for the same account. Phone call after phone call I had with then & its like talking to a wall.

So in the end, when I had my friend send in a support ticket claiming he didn’t send it, he got the money back & he withdrew it & gave it me in cash in staid, then I emailed paypal & told them to forget it & to delete my paypal account as im fed up with dealing with people who don’t listen.

This was 6 months ago, now every month I get a paypal email asking me to please re activate my paypal account by verifying my data.
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Wayne, 17 Mar 2008 @ 9:12am

What goes around, comes around...Google Carma
Personally, I think think this is funny.. Google has been throwing it's weight around and hurting too many people. It's nice to see someone else have the upper hand for once.. Even if it is ebay and payapl.. Google Horror Stories
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Jim D., 30 Mar 2008 @ 4:05pm

re: google checkout not safe
Of course ebay is going to say crap about google checkout.

Ebay owns paypal and google is it's competitor

Google offers amazing things such as froogle for online shopping and places like amazon, ebay etc. are getting worried.
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Jared, 27 Jun 2008 @ 2:10pm

Re: I'll sue
LOL! That's the greatest comment on this whole board.
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Bonanzle.com, 24 Aug 2008 @ 11:58pm

Google Checkout
We have been using Google Checkout at Bonanzle.com for our transactions and it has been solid. We do offer paypay but find that most of our users are so fed up with eBay that they refuse paypal. Plus Google Checkout is much more reasonable, it allows more of the profits to go where they should go, to the seller!

Take care,
Mark Dorsey
http://www.bonanzle.com
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Mercedes, 13 Jul 2009 @ 2:17pm

Good.
Google Checkout is a horrible service. From what I understand, they are a cheap merchant's dream but a buyers nightmare. I have had nothing but a horrible experience with them.
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firerant, 19 Oct 2009 @ 9:30am

Well its 10/2009 now
Three years after this blog entry and Google Checkout is still a bug-ridden pos. Ask any of their merchants, if you can find one still using it, or willing to admit they ever did.

Google has the most remarkable ability to ignore the rotting smell from it's products.
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Apple Store New Orleans, 9 Jul 2011 @ 2:05pm

eBay is 100% right... You cannot trust Google Checkout!

Have you been keeping up with the news? Checkout is under fire for not offering any customer support for transaction disputes and there is even a class action lawsuit in the works.
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Guest, 30 Nov 2011 @ 10:28am

I just made a blog post showing how to verify your PayPal without having a bank account, you can see it at http://whosthatguru.com - I just thought it might help some of the people who read your blog so why not share it
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Chris, 25 Sep 2012 @ 6:01pm

Old Post Still the Same Google B.S.
I do not blame ebay for not allowing Google checkout. Our company had a few customers that received the merchandise "and quickly I might add", they left bad feedback through google because they wanted something for nothing and google kept the money, closed our account and now we are stuck with bad reviews when you pull us up on google.
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Niki D Kettula, 9 Dec 2012 @ 1:36pm

Google
Google accessed my checking and took money. I cannot find an email account to have them answer as to why. I was considering a purchase of there chrome laptop but did not authorize or continue the purchase. The amount taken was far less than the purchase would have been. How could they get into my personal banking??? So they file my account info even if a purchase is not made?? If so I wonder who else can get into my account. I am a single mother of 3 who is unemployed. I had to enter my info to be able to see what the price would actual be if I did order it because google would not inform me of shipping or tax until I did. I thought Google would be a safe place to shop or compare pricing. I WAS WRONG AND THERE SEEMS TO BE NO WAY TO FIND OUT. IM VERY CONCERNED
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