Rather Than Embrace The Internet, Newspapers Look To Embrace A Different Kind Of Old Media
from the teaming-up-against-the-internet? dept
While newspapers aren't in as bad a shape as some would have you believe, they still are having trouble figuring out how to deal with this internet thing. The latest is that a bunch of newspapers have decided that if one bit of old media (newspapers) isn't enough, why not two? That's right, they're going to start shipping CDs with the morning newspaper, sort of like computer magazines from a decade or so ago. These CDs will include music and movie previews, as they try to generate that additional multimedia experience. Of course, for most users, these discs will end up similar to AOL's free CDs: in the garbage dump. If this content is so valuable, and is going to be viewed on a computer anyway, why not just put it online? Forcing it onto a CD is just an attempt to come up with a solution that the newspapers can say "competes" with the internet, rather than just better embracing the internet.
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Another Old Medium?
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Re: Another Old Medium?
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OH! Too funny
Leveraging offline activity into online loyalty is a challenge, yes. So let's take away online loyalty? Heh.
Bless their little cotton socks, they are trying so hard! A for effort but sadly, overall, an F.
Will it encourage people to put their paper down, get up from the 'throne and scamper over to their PC? hmm doubtful - maybe a handful? Not enough though surely? It would be interesting to see if the CD then has links out into the 'net. But why not place a strategic "to read more go to website blahblah/moreinfo" in print? Oh wait, people who read newspapers don't have the internet at home right? But they DO have a PC?
If I was an incumbent media mogul, I'd be rethinking my demographic. Chasing after ppl who don't have hot and cold running internet may not be the target, Page 3 girls and tabloids aside, for the future. If you peddle information, try peddling it to those who are at least a little bit interested in the world around them. And, elitist as it may sound, those without internet connectivity AND interested in global and local issues are a dying breed. Time to get with da program!
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Re: Your father-in-law
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not so bad really.
literally, there will be nothing worth the time to copy.
plus even if there is it will be so cheap to get it its not worth it.
actually i quiet like magazines with discs, and still get a few a year. I tend to bin the magazine and just keep the disc. in fact if the whole of the papers content was on the disc (as html *not pdf*) so i could easliy search it i'd be tempted with this. but more it tends to be a way of saving me the bother of downloading stuff.
i'd say 8/10 for effort, it may not be too practical but at least they are trying and should be congratulated for that at least.
even if its a somewhat lame idea, unless the disc becomes a *must have* its pointless, and if its 'windows only', installs effectivly spyware or is just full of adverts well its going to do more harm than good.
just hope they have thought it all through.
but there are definate possiblities, especially if the paper is linked to the content, e.g. a review of a film - the disc has the trailer, for a song - say half the video on the disc. sports story - disc has more pictures, the ones they took but the paper didn't have space for. maybe expanded articles etc.
but all that should really be on the net somewhere, maybe behind a paywall but it would be cheaper. possibly put 'todays access code' in the paper, good for 24 hours. accessing older content? subscribers only. thus effectivly anyone can get todays stuff on line (cheaper to by the paper than print it out) but subscribers get the archive (and maybe an add free version to)
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They dont need a true jump yet and why give people reason to move fully to the web when you can still milk the paper for all its worth. Once they see that the true profits they want is no longer there, these companies will change but till then, they will milk main stream as much as possible.
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Root Kits
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Um... is this news?
So A) I'm not sure why this is news and B) I don't see why it's so laughable, as you say computer magazines have been doing it for a decade.
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Was this the double bill edition with "Debbie does Dallas" ;-)
Gives new meaning to 'page 3 starlet'.
On subject: You can't grep a dead tree.
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They're simply being responsible.
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Re: They're simply being responsible.
You know Internet tube clogging is getting old... but it's still as funny as the first day. I think it's a classic that'll never lose it's appeal.
Here's to everyone keeping their pipes as clean as possible!
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just more junk mail
BTW isn't medium singular and media plural?
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Clipping Coupons is not for the gainfully employed
Has she ever taken an economics class?
Clipping coupons is an activity best reserved for those who put a very, very low value on their time. Of course they'll all tell you about "the big one", the $5 double coupon six weeks ago, but they fail to calculate the miserable overall return on time invested.
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Re: Clipping Coupons is not for the gainfully empl
But have you ever taken a psychology class?
Millions of supposedly intelligent and educated people make economically sub-optimal choices all the time. Witness the number of people that smoke, drink alcohol, drive while drunk, buy lottery tickets, eat sugar-rich obesity inducing foods, thow away perfectly good clothes, and drive gas guzzling cars, just for starters. My point was, some people buy newspapers for reasons that may not be very logical from an efficiency or cost perspective. It may have nothing to do with news. E.g. maybe they need the paper for wrapping their garbage, or maybe they are habituated to reading the newspaper while sitting on the john. Maybe they just like seeing their kids name on the schools honor roll list a couple times a year.
'Marketing' is the science of figuring out why people buy things, and what might motivate them to buy more or less in the future. And consumer marketing has a lot more to do with psychology than economics. There are a lot of tech companies out there that are run by engineers who just don't believe marketing has any legitimate purpose. But the best ones certainly do.
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Re: Re: Clipping Coupons is not for the gainfully
You don't know what you're talking about. 1 hour for 5 coupons? Ridiculous.
Here's a more typical scenario: 15 minutes of time, savings of about $10/week. Counting taxes, that's equivalent to about $16, making the rate somewhere about $60/hour.
Additionally, an economist such as yourself must understand that unless the wife has billable hours she could be charging, then her opportunity cost is $0.
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CDs - could be good
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Including CD's in the news? I'll probably get sued over copyright law if any of it ends up in my cache when I install it on my PC, or if I mail an article to a friend... So yeah, mine will go right in the trash - more simple than calling a lawyer to make sure everything I do isn't 'copyright' violations.
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Tried it already... it didn't work
It died a quiet death at some point.
Now they concentrate (as Mr Analytical points out) in giving you a free decent film every so often, normally on a Saturday or Sunday, intermingled with not-so-good disks (Gordon Ramsey cooks Christmas, anyone?). Does it work? You bet! Costs them a pittance and when they give away a good film I always have problems finding a paper by midday!
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I pride myself in being able to claim nuetrality towards any of these shitastic exscuses we have for political parties, but as far as newspapers go, they can take thier self-induldging works of pretentious crap and just sit on it.
I don't care what you wrap it in, crap is crap.
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Dead on delivery
maybe for the locked down companies...
where big brother is watching.....
but other than that .....
If they wants to compete, the should go for the tv....
and be and be an interactive dvd
for the couch potatoes.... three button mode people:
select play pause ....entertainment tonight people
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Ahem
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Don't do it!
My husband cannot use a computer, much less a CD. I am too busy to put in a CD and wait for it to load when I can find what I want on the Internet with a search engine.
So in our household, it will be one more piece of junk I will feel guity about throwing away as it has intrinsic value. It will sit around collecting dust until my husband can't stand the clutter anymore. We will spend time trying to determine if it should go in the recycle bin or in the regular garbage can. Please do not burden us with this!
Don't waste your time and money on this hair brained scheme. Or at least use a test market if you want to procede with the distribution of CDs.
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Don't do it!
My husband cannot use a computer, much less a CD. I am too busy to put in a CD and wait for it to load when I can find what I want on the Internet with a search engine.
So in our household, it will be one more piece of junk I will feel guity about throwing away as it has intrinsic value. It will sit around collecting dust until my husband can't stand the clutter anymore. We will spend time trying to determine if it should go in the recycle bin or in the regular garbage can. Please do not burden us with this!
Don't waste your time and money on this hair brained scheme. Or at least use a test market if you want to procede with the distribution of CDs.
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They're flat
Freebies /do/ boost sales - at least temporarily - more or less irrespective of how worthless they are. But giving away anything bulky with a magazine is hugely costly in terms of logistics. CDs and DVDs are popular because they're more interesting than paper (more or less the only other flat thing you'd be likely to give away) but not much thicker.
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That way, people can still have the portability and convienience of printed materials. And they can read whatever category they want online in case they missed something or just want something to read.
Personally I'd love it if my local paper did this, since I do miss out on local news by getting everything exclusively online via Google RSS feeds.
It'll never happen though. The DRM that would accompany the PDFs would be awful. Unless the papers "get it" and agree to go without DRM, which is doubtful.
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Hmmm...
Let's see which is a better medium?
I say we vote:
All in favor of still using clay tablets, say "ay!"
All in favor of using this new stuff called papyrus, say "ay!"
For all opposed, say "nay!"
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Punch Cards
Punch cards! The wave of the retro-future!!!
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Damn it!
This is TECHDIRT not ENGLISHDIRT so Medium and media mean nothing but a word to get a techdirt point accross.
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Want to sell more newspapers?
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