Lawsuits Against Google Only Make It Stronger

from the what-doesn't-kill-it dept

As Google has grown to take top billing among internet based companies, it's been the target of numerous lawsuits, many of which have been filed by small companies with weak cases. You might think that all of these suits might be a distraction to the company. But in fact these cases may be playing right into the company's hands. By racking up court victories against small opponents that make weak arguments and have unsophisticated legal teams, it's helping to build up a body of case law that will come in handy when it has more serious legal challenges. So, for example, in acquiring YouTube, it is inheriting one lawsuit, from an individual who says his video was posted illegally to the site. But Google believes that YouTube's actions were legally grounded; if it can dispatch with this case, it sets a precedent if larger, better-heeled content owners try taking Google to court with similar arguments. Much of Google's success is due to its scale and building up reinforcing network effects; it seems it's going to apply that strategy to the legal arena as well.
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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 23 Oct 2006 @ 9:05am

    Er..

    Does law really work like that?

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  • identicon
    Look out, 23 Oct 2006 @ 9:24am

    Careful Google, don't become too big and powerful, or else people will start randomly hating you for no good reason just like everyone started hating Microsoft when they became big and powerful.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      erinol0, 23 Oct 2006 @ 9:48am

      Re:

      It may sound a little naive but Google's all about "Do no evil". Micro$oft's strategy has always been to appropriate others ideas and monetize them.

      Google goes to great lengths to get me to want to use what they have to offer at no monetary cost to me, while M$ just looks for ways to make me pay more money for an operating system that continually gets slower and slower with each new update/version.

      Therefore M$ Google

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      • identicon
        blyx, 24 Oct 2006 @ 3:40pm

        Re: Re:

        thati s very naive. what has google done that is new? mail? no. search? no. advertising model? no, they bought that.

        you make an argument about the differnece between google and microsoft. the only difference to me is the following: they told you they do no evil and you believe it, and 2.) they give away things for free because they make money using a b2b model. This appears free to you, but they are pimping your data to manipulate you into buying more things. this is far more insidious and manipulative - i'd prefer pay for my product and not get mindfucked on top of it.

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    • identicon
      Jo Mamma, 23 Oct 2006 @ 9:52am

      Re:

      Very true, but I think cheesedick tiny copyright holders will hardly be the catalyst for the inevitable hating of Google.

      But Techdirt, I think you're exactly right on this one. They're much better off if they get a few small lawsuits out of the way first.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 23 Oct 2006 @ 9:53am

      Right, there is "no good reason" that people hate Microsoft...

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 23 Oct 2006 @ 12:33pm

      Re:

      Riight, cause, you know, people hate M$ and it's ways for no good reason at all. They're great. Really. Nothing unethical about their tatics. Ever. No. Really. Seriously. M$ is the best. They love the people and care about things other than profit.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Elmer Fudd, 24 Oct 2006 @ 2:46pm

      Re: Hating Microsoft for no good reason?

      Get real. When Microsoft first got big and powerful, most people cheered. It was only when it became clear that Microsoft would use its de facto monopoly powers to leave a mile wide trail of damage to its customers and the entire IT industry, for the sake of an extra 1/2 of 1% profit margin, that people started "hating" Microsoft.

      People who "hate" Microsoft are actually people who "hate" grossly insecure software, and vendors who refuse to address the underlying security problems with their software simply because they are not liable for customer losses. Then there are those who "hate" giant corporations whose equally giant political lobbying machine guarantees them the freedom to innovate by using every abusive business practice in the book, to wipe out competitors, kill competing technologies, and lock down customers.

      When Google starts actively spying on its customers, spamming them senseless, introduces a "forced upgrade cycle", and systematically breaks their tools and services so that they will only work with their own brand of software on the end user's computer, people will start hating Google... for the same reasons they hate Microsoft.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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    ScaredOfTheMan, 23 Oct 2006 @ 10:08am

    Hating MS for no good reason?

    When was the last time you used an MS operating System?
    How about their not so nice licensing arrangements.
    the list is very long and I don't want to turn this into a MS bashing thread.

    I hope Google can give MS a run for its money, they need the competition.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Not So Naiive, 23 Oct 2006 @ 10:45am

    Weak cases don't set precedents

    Weak cases don't set precedents, they just fatten lawyer's pockets. If a big company wants to bring a case, they will figure out a way to set aside any of these weak precedents.

    If you are powerful, irrespective of whether you claim to have the "do no evil" slogan or not, you will be sued. It is the law of nature. The higher they rise, the harder they fall.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      me, myself, and i, 23 Oct 2006 @ 9:37pm

      Re: Weak cases don't set precedents

      state that 'nature of law' rather than 'law of nature'. just makes more sense...

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  • identicon
    Eric Barnes, 23 Oct 2006 @ 11:17am

    Google Did this with Trademarked Keywords

    TechDirt...you're exactly right. Google has successfully employed this strategy with small companies suing because Google allowed a competitor to use that companies name as a keyword.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 24 Oct 2006 @ 1:55pm

    Lets try and count how many people working for microsoft committed suicide during the creation of windows XP.

    All they ever wanted was a 15 minute coffee break :'(

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  • identicon
    Yeago, 24 Oct 2006 @ 3:22pm

    re:

    Not sure how this discussion turned into 'who hates MS and why'..

    But back to the topic. I don't really see how simply being sued is a good thing. Perhaps future potential plaintiffs will be discouraged while reviewing prior precedent, but its winning cases--not simply being confronted with them--that is the key to this (IMHO).

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  • identicon
    kris, 24 Oct 2006 @ 5:38pm

    google vs ms knockdown

    Personally speaking, I used to hate microsoft, mainly because of windows being buggy and hard to use (lots of idiosynchracies and gotchas).

    Since the release of windows XP, I have come to rid myself of most of this. Also, with bill gates putting a lot of money into his charity, it seems his philosophy (at least now) is to make a lot of money that will edventually benefit mankind which I see no problem with.

    google has kept its site and software very user friendly, with clean UIs and generally bug free.
    plus, their support of open source communities and their general philosophies make me feel like they want to provide a good product that will help people.

    Google has always felt simple and powerful, which is a product I like.

    Finally, look at Internet explorer 7, it has a much simpler interface, and may be a way for the future for microsoft.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Anonymous Coward, 25 Oct 2006 @ 2:17am

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