Microsoft Spinmeisters Hard At Work Defending Zune Sales
from the candidate-zune dept
Microsoft's approach to launching the Zune feels a little bit like a politician managing expectations. First they try to build up as much hype as possible. Then when it looks like the poll numbers aren't coming in as high as they promised, they insist that they expected it would be a tough fight. But when all the pundits start writing off the politician as dead, they come back and say things are trending up, and that they're exceeding (internal) expectations. There's been a raft of stories about how poorly the Zune has fared this holiday season, but Microsoft insists that it's on track to sell 1 million Zunes by the middle of next year. That sounds like a big number, but it would still be a small sliver of the total market, and puts the company far behind the iPod. What's interesting about the sales figures, though, is that the Zune hasn't even emerged as the anti-iPod, the first choice among shoppers who don't want an iPod. It's actually fallen to fifth, after an initial boost. What's happening is that people who are going to shell out for a premium music player are buying iPods, while people looking for something cheaper and less stylish are buying commodity products, from the likes of Sandisk, whose product is basically a souped up flash drive. This doesn't leave much space for the Zune, which is seen as neither as nice as an iPod, or different enough. Of course, like a politician, there's no doubt that Microsoft will try to recast the Zune in a different light if things don't start to improve.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Just wait till somebody hacks Zune to run Linux...
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Re: Just wait till somebody hacks Zune to run Linu
Which player can you not use now without the "DRM" crap? Whether you rip your own or pirate non-DRM'ed content, devices such as the iPod will play them without any grief at all.
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I was referring about the contagious DRM that automatically attaches itself to the files you beam to another zune.
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How did they get the 1M number?
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Yet somehow I bet you are one of hte idiots who thinks that Apple will sell 9 million computers next year based on the fact that this quarter they are expecting to sell a record high 2.25 million. And Apple fans thinks that they will sustain even GREATER sales rates for an entire year than they got during their BEST holiday season.
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I would say that the % of people that use (and God forbid support) windows is directly inverse to the % of people tha know what a Maybach is.
You Jk... id say you got your IQ close to the mark. 87! But personally I think you're being optimistic.
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Microsoft
sorry i am busting on MS here.
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Anti-iPod will take time
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ZUNE WILL SURVIVE
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Re: ZUNE WILL SURVIVE
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...but I don't even know anyone who has a Zune.
And as for Amazon ranking - it's not even in the top Electronics 100, while the 30GB iPod is - today - at #2. And there are iPods and iPod accessories peppered throughout the top 100 items. Even "Fellowes Powershred Lubricant Cutter Oil for Confetti-Cut Shredders" is beating the Zune.
If Microsoft's intention was to sell these devices, they've failed already. Even the initial advertising was... well, bad. I predict it will be the Ford Edsel of music/video playback devices.
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Missed opportunity!
They could have done something revolutionary instead they polished mediocrity and served it up with wifi.
The Zune is MS's Newton
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Zune to zero
The Wifi feature is a dead loss if you don't know anybody who has another Zune. The only practical use I can see for it is to use the system to push advertising to anybody who passes within range of a transmitter. So what is left for MS to add to the deal and make it attractive that others don't already have? All this and they stabbed their plays for sure partners in the back too.. This Zune seems to be a dud. Perhaps the Zune 2 will be more credible.
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DRM = Failure
same can be said about any new technologies with DRM issues, the early adopters, the tech-geeks, will avoid it. DRM will kill your product these days.
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sell it to russia/china/etc
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Still waiting...
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Best Portable Media Player
You can check it out here
http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/cowon/a2/
With the ability to record Radio, Audio to MP3, and Video to MP4 one has to wonder why you would even waste time with a Ipod or Zune
I threw many different video formats at it and it played everything flawlessly. That is extremely cool considering the limitations on most portable media player in regards to formats (Cowon plays Divx, Xvid, MP4, OGG and many more formats)
Plus on top of it all the device actually multi-tasks! It is no surprise though to discover Linux under the hood.
It is amazing what devices are capable of when you don't have major conglamerates breathing down your neck telling you what you can or can't do with a device.
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Nope, just a testimonial. I post here once and awhile and read regularly. I am just amazed on how weak American corporate products are. We could make products that did so much more if big industry did not conspire against it.
The Cowon A2 is just one example of what is possible, and it is an amazing device that I have spent many hours already playing with.
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So many derisions, so few owners
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Re: So many derisions, so few owners
I'm not sold on the Zune (even though I'm an X-Box user) and I doubt I ever will own a Zune, since I doubt MS will bother with the small percentage of Mac users out there.
But specifically in response to the podcasting issue you brought up, do you think maybe MS is resisting because they don't want anything with the word 'pod' in the name on the Zune? Maybe they'll come out with ZuneCasts?
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Apple Innovation
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What's funny is...
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Sheep? You mean like Windoze running PC users?
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Hey, MS gave us a cut of their player. You should too!
You got a cut of the 7th? most popular player and none of the others, huh. Good for you. Now, do you want to sell music through iTunes or not?
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Give em time
I am the happy owner of the beautiful and functional Brown Zune wouldn't go near an iPod!
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Still won't get a Zune...
As it is, I own an old Memorex mp3 player with 64mb memory and it accepts 256 SD cards and it has great sound and will last ~25 hours on 1 AA battery. I had bought one of those MobiBlu 2gig cube players and the batter life was short (~5hours) and was only good for the radio feature until the damn thing died last week (had it ~6 months).
As much as I'd like to pretend that I'm going to get a new mp3 player, I'm probably not going to turn away from my 2-year-old player to get an iPod or a Zune (not a big fan of the X-box either). I may get a new machine if it's the right price, but odds are it won't be something mainstream.
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What I meant was
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ROTFLMAO! 'Plays for Sure'™
They'd never heard of the situation until I'd mentioned it, neither had a couple of teens that were looking over the selection in the store and decided to hold off on purchasing a zune until they did a bit of looking around online to confirm my story.
The zune's biggest flaw is the fact it DOESN'T 'Play for Sure'™. Thanks to Microsoft screwing over all their business partners on the RIAA's say so when the DRM was cracked on *.wma the zune is unable to play all the audio files people have been buying at the Microsoft stores. This is the reason why ultimately the zune WILL become Microsoft's biggest flop since 'MS Bob'
iWindoze
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You know how big that "small sliver" would be? Almost the EXACRT same size of he sliver of hte computer market that Apple currently has.
Hmmmm, achieving about 3% market share after 6 months, or achieving 3% marketshare after over 25 YEARS, including being the market leader at one point?
So...you can't have it both ways, fanboys. If the Zune is afailure, that Apple computers is an even BIGGER one.
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Microsoft Zune
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Curious
I arrived on this site because I was curious how sales have been going for the Zune. Interestingly, Microsoft is not releasing sales figures, promising only that one million will be sold by June. Yes, and football teams often buy unsold seats to avoid blackout of their games. I sense a thunderous yawn with regard to this product. I remain curious about how it will unfold. The fact the man in charge of the product recently left may simply be coincidental. But there may be problems in paradise.
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reverse engineering
Microsoft is the ultimate artiste of reverse engineering. No product that is born to the cowardice of reverse engineering will stand out from the crowd. Normally such products crash. Like Tupolovs (USSR's RV'd Boeings) and Windows. At least when a Tupolov crashes it makes headlines worldwide. The 'Blue Screen of (inevitable) Death' is not news worthy. The 'blue screen' is a bit like our daily ablutions. Windows however would never suffer from constipation. The 'Blue Screen' is apparently - according to independent industry statistics - something that happens , on average, twice a day to windows based computers. No constipation here! Nice and regular. Great bowel movement.
To all those posters on this site that say something like "just wait, MS will get it right just like it always does" I have this o say:
How long has windows been polluting the world? How many decades will it take for this behemoth to get the basics of its industry right?
I work with MAC OS X and Windows.
I never thought that microsofton would ever lose its monopoly. Now I'm sure it will. Vista has sealed the deal. MS has finally attempted to reverse engineer something that is far beyond its ability to replicate.
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zune hits 1 million in sales..
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