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Studios Continue To Ignore Just How Badly They Hamstring Legal Download Sites

from the blue-in-the-face dept

Mon, Apr 9th 2007 11:27am — Carlo Longino

It's been clear since the outset that the movie download sites supported by Hollywood studios have been far too clunky and user-unfriendly to attract many users, and they've made only marginal improvements over the years. They provide the perfect insight into how the movie industry puts its stupid fears about piracy above everything else -- including creating a product that consumers will actually want to pay for. While it's been blindingly obvious to many of us, Jeff writes in to point out that BusinessWeek is highlighting, for Hollywood's benefit, the fact that these sites will never be successful when copy protection is the top priority. It's often easy to marginalize complaints that an overemphasis on DRM and copy protection are hurting big content's business as the whining of a tiny group of geeky consumers, but articles like this one in mainstream publications make it clear that isn't the case, and that only when services like these are usable and useful do they stand a chance of succeeding. Still, the movie studios must not read BusinessWeek, since it was almost a year ago that another article in the magazine pointed out that the movie studios couldn't find a buyer for Movielink, the download site they own, because all the potential buyers realized that it will never succeed as long as the studios insist on locking down their content so rigidly.

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The Swiss Cheese Monster, 9 Apr 2007 @ 11:49am

It seems like they are so pissed at the illegal sites that they take it out on the legit ones.
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- Bob Knight, 9 Apr 2007 @ 12:39pm
  
  Re: The Legal Sites
  The movie studios must hate them selves then, as they own most of the legal sites.
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Point, 9 Apr 2007 @ 12:05pm

On a Kind of Unrelated Point
If it was possible for people to drop their cars in a machine and immediately churn out a copy for half the price of a new car, they would do it. If they could download a chair, they would do it. If it was possible to copy an entire book as easily as it is to copy an MP3, people would do it. (And have been doing it since copying books got easier than it was when you had to use a photocopier to pages one by one.) The only reason we buy things instead of making them ourselves is because it's more cost-efficient to buy. Copyright owners could rant and rail and get legislators and courts to declare the actions illegal, but that wouldn't stop people from doing it.

I'm not sure what my point is, but I think this is something that many companies would do well to realize, accept, and learn to work with. I don't think it's a tendency that's going to go away.
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- discojohnson, 9 Apr 2007 @ 1:52pm
  
  Re: On a Kind of Unrelated Point
  It's kind of down your same track, but I believe the reason the MPAA pushes so much harder than the RIAA is because I'll listen to the same song/album a lot more times, and more frequently than, a video.
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DisGuysed, 9 Apr 2007 @ 12:07pm

It would be interesting
to see the movie studio system fall apart and individual studios would seek internet distribution for themselves. It would be fun times.
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Not Steve Jobs, 9 Apr 2007 @ 12:09pm

Who will show them the light?
There is one company with tremendous power to change this equation with the greatest of rapidity.

That company is Apple, with their CEO, Steve Jobs being the majority owner (and board member) of Disney.

Steve said in his "thoughts on music" essay that he thought DRM was doing nothing but holding back the industry, and that removing it was the only valid way to move forward (bad summary is my fault).

However, it looks like Steve is completely two-facing this issue, as he has stated the oposite applies to video. In the realm of audio, he blames the labels for holding back their own industry.

Meanwhile, HE IS THE LABEL when it comes to video. He *COULD* convince Disney to ship DVDs without CSS on them, and he *COULD* have iTMS sell those same movies for Apple TV and for iPods with no encryption. (and of course with no DRM, that same video could also be used on any other device)

How much you wanna bet he doesn't?
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Joe Smith, 9 Apr 2007 @ 12:10pm

Self serve
There was a a time when all of the goods in a retail store were kept away from the consumers, safely behind counters. To access the goods a customer had to deal with a clerk. Security was no doubt a major reason for this arrangement. Moving to self serve increased enormously the risk of shop lifting.

Apart from jewelry stores, who else keeps their merchandise locked behind a counter these days. Self serve wiped out the old model of retailing because it puts the customer first.

There is a lesson in there for the movie studios. Put the customer first.
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Pointguard, 9 Apr 2007 @ 12:13pm

Re:On a Kind of Unrelated Point
I believe that the problem is that the respective industries that are grinding against the unstoppable gears of the internet still won't let themselves admit that they can't make things work their way. The problem is that it's a big machine (riaa, mpaa, etc.) and they don't understand or know that their way won't work even if they somehow got their way. The internet isn't a beast to tame. You can't lasso in a tidal wave let alone a puddle of water.
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- TheDock22, 9 Apr 2007 @ 12:29pm
  
  Re: Re:On a Kind of Unrelated Point
  So true. I think the main problem is that the movie industry thinks if they get rid of DRM restrictions, then a flood of people will opt to copy the video rather than buy it. This is silly and there is a good reason why people would buy a movie than burn it.
  
  Media and burners. The home consumer usually does not have the money to buy professional grade burner or high-capacity media disks, therefore their copy is of lower quality. Also, why not make it so only the movie is offered, but you need to buy the disc for the bonus features? I like the bonuses and would gladly fork over the money for a DVD.
  
  Most people are not inclined to steal and most of those people who DO steal videos tend to grow out of it when they get older and begin making more money. I think the movie industry should at least give people a chance rather than label everyone a thief. They might be surprised.
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  - Pointguard, 9 Apr 2007 @ 12:50pm
    
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    Yes. I do find myself growing into buying things more instead of acquiring by other means as I get older. But from my experiences with people I would say that piracy really isn't a problem. Most people i meet don't know much about computers and don't have a clue what bittorrent is! I had a refreshing slap in the face when I spoke to a girl who needed help with her comp and upon inquiry had no clue what even a CPU was! Zounds!
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    - Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2007 @ 1:29pm
      
      Re: Re: Re: Re:On a Kind of Unrelated Point
      Yes. I do find myself growing into buying things more instead of acquiring by other means as I get older.
      
      What I found was that I stopped pirating as I got older. But I did not replace my pirating with purchasing. I just consume far less mindless drivel nowadays.
      
      (yes, I'm one fo those jackasses who used to go buy stuff after pirating it, yes, we really do exist. Now that I ahve stopped pirating, I have also stopped buying. What a weird coincidence...)
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  - John Mann, 9 Apr 2007 @ 1:08pm
    
    Re: Re: Re:On a Kind of Unrelated Point
    "Also, why not make it so only the movie is offered, but you need to buy the disc for the bonus features? I like the bonuses and would gladly fork over the money for a DVD."
    
    You do realize that all it takes is one pirate to purchase/steal an "original" DVD to allow the bonus features to be available for download, right?
    
    As for quality of pirated versions - you really can't tell the difference. Of course, being played back on a 109" television might bring out imperfections... But if you own such a display device, you probably have enough money to afford the storage required for higher quality pirated copies of your movies.
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Coffy, 9 Apr 2007 @ 1:47pm

Netflix
With Netflix, who needs pirated copies? Now they also offer internet viewing of some of their movies, and this is included in the price of a regular Netflix membership.
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