Yet Another Company Wants To Sell You An Expensive Box To Download Movies
from the stop-me-if-you've-heard-this-one-before dept
Over the weekend, the New York Times published a glowing story about Vudu, a new startup that's developing a set-top box for downloading movies. Yes, this is a plan you've heard before, from the spectacularly failed, Disney-backed Moviebeam to more recent efforts by Akimbo, along with the continued minimal impact of PC-based movie download sites. As Peter Rojas points out on Engadget, the Times story is "long on overblown claims and hyperbole and short on realistic analysis of how resistant consumers have been to paying to download movies over the internet". Vudu has signed up most of the major studios to supply content and says it's got technology that will make movies play immediately, without any waits or stutters. That's great and all, but when consumers have shown so little interest in these types of services before, it's hard to see things changing -- particularly when Vudu wants to make them buy a $300 single-purpose box, then pay per-movie charges on top of that -- in spite of the NYT's puff piece.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Won't Sell Me One
Movies, on the other hand, are made primarily by a handful of studios and about 95% is crap. Sure, there are the indie film studios out there, but being an indie doesn't guarantee great stuff.
As long as there is physical media which a consumer can rent for short money is available, download services won't go anywhere. Broadband is still not fast enough for real quality download speeds, so huge amounts of data like movies will either be compressed even more or will provide a miserable viewing experience.
As long as someone uninformed has money to lose, these things will continue to appear on the market, and the market can be cruel.
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Portability and versatility
These are the value adds that the vendors need to be embracing. It's what made digital music happen, and it is doing the same for video.
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what girl?
The girl with the power.
What power?
The power of vudu.
Vudu?
Who do?
You do?
You do, I do what?
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Re: You remind me of the girl..
I love that movie, "Sara friend."
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Of course, I'm not going to get either of those things from this service, in all likelyhood. Same price as a DVD, but far less useful? Sign me right up!
Also, the page design changed between the last article and this one. I like the new design, but the header/navigation is all kinds of messed up in my browser (FireFox 2, Win XP).
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Re: I wouldn't mind paying $300
You just said you would pay $300 for the priviledge to rent movies from Blockbuster, Netflix, blah, blah, blah.
You are asleep or have lost conscienceness if you would rather 'buy' a cablebox than have one given to you by the cable company.
You forget that someone must supply you with a VERY high-speed internet connection to get these movies. Cost on top of cost.
You must be poor or soon to be poor if you are throwing money around like that.
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Re: Re: I wouldn't mind paying $300
I'd also like to "buy" one instead of "have one given to [me] by the cable company", because that way I can cancel the cable contract.
30mbit FiOS is probably fast enough, and it's not that expensive.
I'm not throwing money around, I'm canceling a $60/month digital cable bill and a $10 NetFlix bill, and throwing down $300 up front.
Like I said, I wouldn't mind buying it if the movies are cheap and not DRMed. Done right, this is an Apple TV, without iTunes. I just don't think it will be done anywhere close to right.
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I cannot see Vudu effectively competing
These folks 'give' you a cable box that is now capable of movie download to a HardDisk as well as the Tivo functions.
In addition, the CableNetwork download is much faster than a CableModem download because you can dedicate a entire downstream channel (45Mbps vs 6Mbps CableModem).
There is no way the MSOs (Multi-System Operators aka Cable Companies) will let something like Vudo survive, much less cut into their potential profits.
Not even if Vudu is backed by Microsoft.
The Cable Companies own the road, the network to your house.
They control the road and the traffic to your house.
Unless you can switch to a Phone Company network distributor, you are stuck with the Cable Company.
Again, there is 0% chance Vudu will make it on their own.
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I might pay that if the selection is HUGE and they have a VERY low monthly fee - and yes, with others... DRM free.
I can't see paying $300 for a box that then charges me for movies, how would this beat Netflix?
Sure, umm, it's quick, but for $300.00 I can have some patience.
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Keep in mind...
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Video OnDemand, Pay-per-View, already there...
The Movie is held on the HardDrive, you can watch it again.
There is NO way that the CableOperators are going to loose this lucrative money-making business.
The only advantage that Vudu will create is lower cost VideoOnDemand for customers. Vudu still goes out of business.
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Netflix
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XBOX360 is that box
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Re: XBOX360 is that box
Look up a program called TVersity. I use it to stream audio to my Xbox360 and Wii. It works with video if your computer is powerful enough to do the live conversion.
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Waste of time and money on Vudo’s behalf…
Their $300 box is nothing less than a Striped-Down/Basic PC (similar to an Apple TV set-top box); which, is built for the sole purpose to stream and display movies on my HD/SD (Standard Definition) display. A majority of us are too smart to waste $300 on useless hardware that give us view once movies with picture quality less than DVD, and already have some sort of PC that has better system specs than an Apple TV set-top box. Also, most HD displays have some sort of VGA or DVI input we can use to connect to our current PC/Laptop. And for those that have a SD display save your money and buy a HD display with VGA in. Or buy an adaptor! It will still cost less than $300 as far as standard video is concerned.
The people Vudo needs to rethink their business plans. Nice way to get some headlines though. Maybe your penny stock will go up 1 or 2 cents.
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Unbox and Tivo
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Am I The Only One?
EVEN IF the cable companies let this happen, EVEN IF I could download the purchased movies to my pc to burn to dvd (all the write ups I have seen only talk about renting), they are still missing the boat when it comes to bandwidth.
When you read up on this, it is a P2P network serving up these movies. I am sorry, If I pay to rent a movie I accept that I will use my bandwidth to download it. BUT (and this is a BIG BUT) I refuse to eat up my bandwidth to send it to some other shmuck.
If what I am reading is correct, your bandwidth at home would be eaten alive by others wanting to watch the movies you rented.
VUDU - You really missed the boat here. Just like the studios, you want us to bear the brunt of your money making. I wouldn't purchase one of these bandwidth leaches, nor would I hook one up to my network if it was given to me.
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Digg This
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 - The number string that is causing censorship in blogs (HD-DVD key for Linux use)
Fight the DRM with information, I just thought that this would be most relevant to this story being you can download hd content to your pc, but only legally buy buying it, not if you already own it and want to transfer it to another medium
This is the website contact address that sent the cease and desist take down notices to Google..... Have fun with it (DOS-it? :P)
webmaster@proskauer.com
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