Alberto Gonzales' Biggest Priority... Is Stricter Copyright Laws?
from the you-have-to-be-kidding dept
You would think with a war going on, the threat of terrorism and, well, a scandal at his office that many think will eventually force him to resign, that the Attorney General of the US would be pretty busy dealing with any of those things. Apparently not. AG Alberto Gonzales decided that now is the best time to ask Congress (who you might say isn't particularly happy with him right now) to pass stricter intellectual property laws. He's sent over the "Intellectual Property Protection Act of 2007," saying that he wants the Justice Department to spend more time and money cracking down on this apparent blight on the economy. Of course, he seems to be ignoring the recent studies both from the GAO and the OECD suggesting the "harm" is greatly exaggerated, mainly by industry lobbyists. Perhaps it's not such a surprise that Gonzales would want to focus on something that appears unrelated to the various problems he's been facing in his job. Of course, this isn't the first time that Gonzales has been spotted giving out Hollywood's talking points as if they were factual -- so perhaps he's just angling for a new job, once he eventually is forced to move on. In the meantime, you would think that, as the nation's top lawyer, Gonzales would know that the Supreme Court has clearly explained the difference between stealing and infringement, but unfortunately in his latest talk he seems to ignore the Supreme Court and insist that "IP theft is not a technicality... it is stealing." Update: Declan McCullough has more details on how ridiculous the bill is. It would make it a crime to "attempt" to infringe copyright. You can now be put in jail for life in some cases for using pirated software. Computers can be more easily seized in piracy investigations. My personal favorite, though, is that Homeland Security would be required to alert the RIAA when certain CDs are caught at the border (oddly, this only applies to the RIAA -- not the MPAA or BSA).
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So about 6 months...
And Max how dare you insult clowns like that.
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Re: So about 6 months...
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It's our only product
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Re: It's our only product
There is plenty of items still being made and manufactured here. Sure we don't need to make all the low tech mundane stuff here anymore, i.e. cheap toasters, blenders, cooking supplies.
However, a lot of the best equipment is made here and is more expensive. People who want something cheap will buy the foreign cheap appliances but the higher end stuff that a lot of people want and buy are made here.
Also, there are still a lot of automobiles manufactured here including foreign cars. Also, a lot of office supplies and paper is made here as well as most of the software.
Some stuff has been outsourced, but not everything makes sense to be nor needs to be made here or overseas.
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He's just preparing a feathered nest
This is his golden parachute, his future nest.
Like the slimeball he is, he's just looking after himself.
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The idea is, the collective greater good is served when everyone contributes.
Ultimately its our own fault for allowing Gonzo and crew to write and get these laws passed.
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Re: Codonology
Along the extended line of reasoning from the topic, personally, I have some serious thought. It is called "Codonology" at www.Codonology.com
Please feel to make your comments.
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Another idiotic spin of an article
He is going after people who "PROFIT" from selling pirated items and counterfeit knockoffs. I have experienced this first hand. I read a study that 80% of certain brand name parts and accessories sold at mom and pop shops are counterfeit. I have also seen this first hand and had to shut down one of my businesses because I couldnt compete with the counterfeit knockoffs.
There are many stores that get closed down because they buy and sell pirated CD's, software or DVD's.
From the article, one of the provisions is:
The bill also proposes to strengthen restitution provisions ensuring copyright criminals forfeit "all of their illicit profits as well as any property used to commit their crimes"
I see no problem with the above provision. If you commit a crime, you should forfeit your equipment used in the crime and profit made from the crime. Who doesn't agree with that?
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"It would make it a crime to "attempt" to infringe copyright. You can now be put in jail for life in some cases for using pirated software" (from the article)
No, it would make it a crime to ATTEMPT to INFRINGE. NOT profit, as 'infringement' also covers me giving a product away for no cost.
--I have experienced this first hand. I read a study that 80% of certain brand name parts and accessories sold at mom and pop shops are counterfeit.--
I would appreciate a citation on said study. Who was it done by? Who was it paid for by? What was the sample group? A 'study' can say anything it wants, that doesn't mean that the information is true OR accurate.
--I have also seen this first hand and had to shut down one of my businesses because I couldnt compete with the counterfeit knockoffs.--
Perhaps this is your motivation for your vehemence when it comes to this topic.
--I see no problem with the above provision. If you commit a crime, you should forfeit your equipment used in the crime and profit made from the crime. Who doesn't agree with that?--
I don't.
When you follow this line of logic, it opens up abuse by the Men and Women who use the law to line the pockets of either themselves, or their 'department'. This has been done in the past. Enough to spawn quite a few websites on the matter.
A lot of talk is given to the 'slippery slope' concept of certain laws. I believe this law does more harm than good and is being used to prop up an industry that simply refuses to adapt to a changing marketplace and customer needs.
My 2 cents.
A.A.M.
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Re: Another idiotic spin of an article
Have a nice day.
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You would think that the author would think before he writes. Alberto Gonzales has no control over "a war going on, the threat of terrorism". Why would he be busy with those things?
As far as the "scandal" goes... It is a bunch of hype that costs the taxpayers a lot of money. It is about the firing US attorneys that the white house didn't like. The white house has the right to do this, and Clinton did this when he held the office. Of course nobody complained when Clinton did this, they had more serious things to complain about like a cigar.
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It says "Profiting"
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Intellectual Property Law is the AG's New Port
"'I guess this means we've won the war on terror,' one agent says."
I guess that one got the Bush Administration nowhere politically, so now they're trying something new to distract people from their corruption and inefficiency.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/21/MNGRSER4141.DTL
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Re: Intellectual Property Law is the AG's New Port
Actually, it's about firing US Attorneys who didn't submit to using the law to play White House political games. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Copyright violation is not a crime, it is a civil offence.
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Re: Another idiotic spin of an article
"He is going after people who "PROFIT" from selling pirated items and counterfeit knockoffs."
actually, you're wrong. the article linked to here is not very specific, but there are already laws dealing with "for profit" copyright infringement. the proposed bill would extend beyond that.
"If you commit a crime, you should forfeit your equipment used in the crime and profit made from the crime. Who doesn't agree with that?"
you have that all wrong. the bill makes it easier for one's computer to be subject to forfeiture for ATTEMPTED copyright infringement.
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It seems to me that Gonzales has his priorities mixed up.
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Whoa!
Con: What you in for?
fish: Trying to copy software.
Con: Damn how long?
fish: Life, what about you?
con: I killed my wife, I get out on parole in 5 years.
Man I love our justice system!
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Intellectual property "theft" is an act of terrorism according to our government.
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and now
"Pirating is bad, real bad."
Yeah I know that drowning someone repeatedly is ok in the name of national security, but someone who copies zeros and ones needs to be stopped at all costs.
This is the ultimate tyranny, screw the individual and pray to the corporations for guidance.
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Exciting day for the music industry
I thing the exciting part is the government recognizing that the RIAA is the official arbiter of U.S. music sales. This is just the beginning. Just as the American Bar Association is given the power to determine who can legally practice law, the real great step forward will be giving the RIAA the power to police the music industry.
The real reason that record sales are down is that there are far too many albums on the market, diluting the sales. By allowing the RIAA to strictly regulate which bands are legally allowed to record and sell albums, this problem can be fought head-on. Surely 1-200 CD releases a year ought to be more than enough for anyone, and it will be much more reassuring for consumers to know that they can simply go down to the CD section at Wal-Mart and be able to find every album on the market.
This is an exciting time for the music industry, and we can thank the government for having the courage to lead the way!
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Even people who think this idea is dumb don't unde
"The legislation’s most eye-catching provision dramatically increases the penalties for criminal activities that cause harm or death -- such as hawking bogus Lipitor or adding a fake 'UL' logo to a power cable that doesn't meet Underwriters Limited safety standards. Actions that knowingly or recklessly cause bodily harm would result in jail terms of up to 20 years, while those causing death could send a defendant away for life."
-- http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2007/05/ippa07
Neither one of the things mentioned are addressed by copyright (even this new attempt)...both are either trademark or patent issues, along with that good old standard that has been illegal for years: FRAUD.
So, the life imprisonment penalty is not part of a change to copyright law (which is 17 USC), but rather of other IP law (which is covered by 18 USC).
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Way to help the limited-coipyright movement
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parking
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copy laws
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copy laws
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