eBay Trumpets The Catch Of One Scammy Seller
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There are plenty of underhanded techniques eBay sellers can use to inflate the prices buyers must pay for their items, with one of the most common being phantom bids placed by the seller or their agent to drive up prices. A New York jewelry seller's been busted by the state's attorney general for doing this sort of shill bidding, and forced to cough up $400,000 in fines and restitution, and it's been banned from participating in online auctions for four years. It's a little interesting to learn that the AG's office got involved only after eBay went to it with some suspicious bidding patterns on items listed by the company. eBay tends to move quite quickly when high-profile groups want certain items yanked from the site, or to block competition. However, it's also seen its reputation take something of a hit as people grow weary of scams and other tricks and catches many sellers on the site use. The company says it's cracking down on these issues, and perhaps this case is supposed to be evidence of that. However, eBay went to the AG in late 2005 with this case, so it hardly seems like things are moving very quickly. While it's nice to see one less scammer on the site, it's just one out of a sea of tens of thousands more, and it's going to take more than one high-profile case to restore confidence in the site.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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No surprise
Hidden bidden ids that prevent anyone outside of Ebay's limited staff from looking for evidence of shilling or other fraud; paypal rules that are implemented without thought and cost innocent buyers and sellers alike huge sums - sometimes to scammers, sometimes to paypal's coffers; creaping featuritis that makes it difficult to block malicious code in auction pages or even ebay messages; the list goes on and on.
I refuse to buy from most sellers these days and I decided against selling my own surplus valuables after reading the daily horror stories in the ebay forums.
The golden rule on Ebay is no longer "Buyer Beware" it's "Beware Ebay"
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The worst eBay tactic is the inflated
So many times I find something reasonably priced only to see outrageous S&H. For example, $10 for S&H of a CD. So many times I have refused to bid when I find overpriced S&H.
Shill bidding is also a problem but if you are aware, you can usually avoid.
I would think that eBay would be more on top of the ultra-inflated S&H because eBay only gets a cut of the purchas price.
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Re: The worst eBay tactic is the inflated
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eBay Trumpets The Catch Of One Scammy Seller
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Ebay shipping fees
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Re: Ebay shipping fees
Some do offer low price on item and put an excessive shipping and handling fee on it. Ajax4Hire's comments are correct, when the price of shipping is inflated, the bargain savings of the item is reduced, if not completely lost. Jean Smith misunderstood and began arguing over semantics, its not the price of each (the item and it's shipping) that is of concern, its the total price after sale. If the total price on an item at eBay (with s/h) is lower than total cost found elsewhere for same product, than it is a deal.
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Ebay Shipping Fees
I consider this unethical on Ebay's part. Many other shopbots allow comparisons of products using price and S+H.
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Bought item for $1
S/H = $49
Total spent: $50
I don't like the item, or it's broken, etc. If you want to return it, it was only sold for $1. S/H is non-refundable. Here's your dollar. Thanks for shopping.
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But at least reporting them makes you feel better.
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Scam central
http://www.shortship.com/
A great source for ebay tools:
http://toolhaus.org/
That said, Ebay is scam central and they seem to be making it easier for scammers. I would gladly jump ship if there was anything else worth using. Craigslist seems intent on being difficult and you'll never get a good price on other auction sites unless you start scamming yourself!
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shipping costs
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shipping costs
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Scam.......or business opportunity!
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Shipping and Handling is outrageous!
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eBay "not as described" & s&h cost scam
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usa shopping
www.lafsaadvertiser.com
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eBay introduces absolute anonymity for (shill) bidders
A lengthy critical analysis of this matter appears at:
http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=6498345#6498345
I apologise in advance for the length of the above-linked "rant". If you are an unethical shill-bidding seller or a buyer who is not concerned that on the above-mentioned national sites eBay is effectively "aiding and abetting" such shill-bidding sellers to cheat you, read no further.
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eBay Shipping Fees
If a seller has a "buy it now" for $1, and their shipping fee is $9, then would I be crazy to buy it. I mean their shipping fee is absolutely OUTRAGEOUS. Total cost with shipping included would be $10.
Now, if a seller had a "buy it now" for $9, and their shipping fee is only $1, then does this sound fair. Of course it is, since I am the one buying it, and I could care less if the seller has to pay more to ship the item. Total cost with shipping included would be $10, which is the exact same total as the last example.
The truth is you should just add both the items price and shipping together, in order to make the right decision on how much you are willing to spend. That is what I do, and have no complaints. I simply do not bid on the item, if the total of my bid plus shipping fees, comes out higher than what I think is reasonable. It is a free market economy, and you have the choice to walk away, and do business somewhere else.
Here is one more scenario, so I can be sure you understand the point I'm making.
1. I find this item to be a great deal at $100.
2. The "buy it now" price is only $1.
3. However the shipping fee is $75.
Should I purchase this item, or should I complain that the shipping fee is too high???
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Shill Bidding on eBay: A Case Study
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