Red Hat Claims It Wanted To Talk Interoperability With Microsoft, Just Not Patents
from the you're-kidding dept
While Microsoft has signed a series of interoperability and patent deals with various Linux vendors, the biggest Linux distro, Red Hat, has refused to get on board. It was revealed last week, however, that the companies were at least talking at some point about doing some kind of a deal, though the details of the talks (which have fallen through) weren't revealed. In clarifying the company's position, Red Hat executive Paul Cormier said that Red Hat would love to work on interoperability with Microsoft but that it saw no need to establish any patent protection for itself. But Microsoft apparently was only interested in the two things together and had no interest in working on interoperability alone. That's not too surprising, seeing as the interoperability stuff always seemed like a bit of a red herring. Through these deals, Microsoft has been trying to bolster its argument that Linux infringes on its patents. As for the other half, did anyone really think that Microsoft was concerned about establishing interoperability with Linspire? Of course not. For Microsoft, signing a deal with Red Hat would be the big prize, given its position in the Linux world. But unless Red Hat is willing to talk patents, there's really no reason to think that Microsoft would be willing to deal.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Linux patent versus Interoperability
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I think that everyone playing nice with with everyone else is a good thing, certainly for end-users. Very few companies of significant size have only one vendor.
And, besides, Redhat != Linux. In fact, RH is probably more like MSFT than any other distro.
Chris.
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-Wang-Lo.
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"If Linux what to play with the big boys it needs to solicit main stream players not the fringe."
Linux is already playing, and is one of the big boys, and playing quite well at that. Maybe not on the desktop, but definately in the server space, and its quite a big boy in the embedded space as well.
Kudo's to Red Hat. If they did make a deal that compromised open source or even appeared to in any way, developers would leave in droves. Their reputation would be ruined, and their key talent would go elsewhere.
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Linux patent versus Interoperability
1. Most viruses are aimed toward windows for the reason above. If you add linux to the mix the they will be aimed toward every OS.
2. You cant buy up everything. (* Something New Is Born Every Day*)
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Stick to what you know...and leave Linux for the professionals.
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Patents is the question
I find Microsoft's motives very transparent, but maybe it's because I'm seeing this from outside the Windows world. Just one (1) big lawsuit could make Linux a dead duck, or to be more exact, a dead penguin. Anything that will improve Microsoft's chances to win in this future litigation is a good deal. Feed the cat another canary. And anyone who has read anything about Steve Ballmer will understand that for him, losing is not an option. Until that man goes, I will not buy anything with the M$ name on it.
Lacklustre Vista sales and big name endorsements (like Dell) of Linux makes Microsoft even more prone to go on the offensive. I don't doubt for a minute that if it could, Microsoft would sue Linux out of existence. Right now they are just lining up the penguins before starting to shoot. When this will be I do not know, but I feel the potential is there and is growing.
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I mean if they're running on Linux then the chances are they they are developing all their in house server software for Linux, which can then be run bit for bit on AIX or with little effort to move to Solaris. Windows would require a complete re engineer, which I'm sure managers would first claim is a good idea until they see the cost comparison.
If they had the ability to take it out they should have done it a while ago, as it is I'm watching more large shops drop Windows server for the flexibility of Solaris/Linux/AIX.
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IF M$ had a strong, winnable case, it wouldn't need to wait, and the longer M$ waits (again, assuming M$ has a strong case), the more damage it would potentially do to M$, you are right about that.
but look at the first word of that paragraph....IF
if on the other hand M$'s statements are FUD (for whatever reason: there is no infringement, there is infringement but it would be immediately corrected once is known which patents, the patents in question could be challenged for obviousness, prior art,...., as I said, for whatever reason) then waiting, trying to get as many linux distributors to make a deal, might add to the appearance of legitimacy...not to mention that there are plenty of companies, large and small, that don't (dare to) make the switch to linux, exactly because of M$'s FUD
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no wanna play
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Linux shot down? I think not.
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Linux patent versus Interoperability (Revisited)
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