Teen Pleads Guilty For Filming 20 Seconds Of A Movie
from the crimes-and-misdemeanors dept
Remember Jhannet Sejas, the teenager who was arrested for filming 20 seconds of a movie for the sake of showing her brother that she went to that movie? Apparently, she's agreed to plead guilty, which will get her off without any jailtime, a small $71 fine and an agreement to stay out of trouble for a year (afterwards, the misdemeanor will be taken off her record). It's unclear what this has really accomplished for the movie industry, other than highlighting that you better be careful not to take out a camera in a movie theater. A spokesman for the National Association of Theater Owners admits that it's hard for theater owners to police whose filming a movie for distribution and who's just doing it for fun, but then goes on to say that this case "reinforces our efforts to educate the public that unauthorized recording, whether a clip or the whole film, in movie theaters is against the law." Actually, it doesn't do that. It reinforces that theaters have a bunch of ridiculous and costly policies that likely cost more to implement (the article notes that they're rewarding theater employees $500 for each person they catch, which explains why you'll be seeing a lot more theater workers in night vision goggles). However, given that most of the movies you find online are actually leaked by industry insiders rather than camcorded versions (which tend not to be very good anyway), shouldn't there be someone doing a cost-benefit analysis on this? It seems like the educational campaign is quite expensive, makes the theater owners look like a bunch of bullies, and does little to nothing to stop movies from showing up online. Update: Apparently Regal Cinemas pushed hard to prosecute her. How nice of Regal Cinemas.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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If he paid to watch the movie and he wanted to quote and cite the movie in a conversation, school project, or even a publication, that should be just fine.
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Does anybody actually do this in real life?
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You want reinforcement boys??? You got it.
Well then, I guess this Zero Tollerace nonsense and abuse of a citizens Fair Use rights under copyright law reinforces my efforts to stay out of movie theaters, especially Regal Cinemas.
Corporate bullies beating up on teenage girls. Proud of yourselves, boys????
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Re: You want reinforcement boys??? You got it.
There are so many loud, rude, self-centered a-holes that I quit going to movies. Banning cell phones and camcorders is reasonable because those activities disrupt the movie for other people.
If you need proof that you went to a movie, take a picture in the lobby standing next to a poster. If you want to cite something about the movie, get a trailer off the Internet.
That said -- jail time for this silly girl is abysmally stupid, I guess the court figurered that out. Jail the ones that are using the promo and reviewer copies to make money.
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really now? Then you should have no trouble explaining to me how somebody recording the movie with a camcorder, trying to be as in inconspicuous as he can as to not be caught and all, is disrupting the movie (or movie experience) for me? In fact, after you've done, explain the same thing but this time about people recording small clips (or even the movie entirely) on their cell phones...
If they were concerned with the movie(experience) of "other" people in the theater, they would (besides not sell any noisy snacks) have started "patrolling" (like they're doing now) a long time ago to make sure people aren't noisy, don't yak on their cell phone or to each other, you know, to make sure in general the potentially loud, rude, self-centered a-holes do not disturb other movie goers
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i'm embarrassed to be an american
[monty python]nobody expects the spanish inquisition![/monty python]
this is a knee-jerk, reactionary time in history when "BIG ENTERTAINMENT" knows that they're at the end of their life cycle and are flailing wildly in the last death-throes of money-grubbing bastardosity. fuck the riaa. fuck the mpaa. fuck the nato. donate to eff (eff.org) and help some of these victims of government sanctioned extortion, blackmail and corruption.
(whew. i feel better now! (pardon my fucking french.))
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Nail 'em up I say, nail some sense into them.
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I think we should round up these disgusting law breakers and their entire family so we can execute the lot of them and clean up our gene pool. Imagine a world without copyright infringers, what a glorious utopia it would be.
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perhaps it
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Perhaps it's a good thing
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Popcorn, the REAL evil
[montypython] Help! Help! I'm being repressed! Now we see the violence inherent in the system! [/montypython]
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Is it really that hard to distinguish the difference? Camcorder... Cellphone...
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So...
A spokesman for the National Association of Theater Owners admits that it's hard for theater owners to police whose filming a movie for distribution and who's just doing it for fun, but then goes on to say that this case "reinforces our efforts to educate the public that unauthorized recording, whether a clip or the whole film, in movie theaters is against the law."
So instead taking the time to tell the difference they just assume they are all trying to get the whole movie to share on the net? Last time I checked you had to prove malicious intent. Did the girl in question only take a 20 sec. clip and then put the camera away or did "some fast thinking employee stop this nefarious thief from capturing the whole film just in time to stop her from getting it out on the net"? If she was trying to get the whole movie (which means that 20sec. would have been near the first 20sec. of the movie) then I could see them going after her. But if was just recording some 20sec. bit part of the way through then all this was was a publicity stunt and the chance to strike one of those famous "significant blows" against piracy.
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frivolous lawsuits
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Boycott Regal Cinemas
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Odor of a police state
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ever heard
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..but seriously, folks..
No, really, where did fair use go? Does this not fall under fair use? I seriously thought it did... I understand it can be against theater policy and get you kicked out, but against the law?? I guess that's why IANAL. :)
At any rate, she'll learn her lesson-- next time she should just download the High Def version and use a clip from that, apparently it's safer.
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AND I'll boycott any OTHER theatres that decide to bully inocent people who have never had anything else on their record, and now have this crap, over filming 0.3% of a movie (yes, three tenths of one percent of the total movie).
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what happened to common sense ?
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This was a stupid case, but its also not too bright to whip out a Canon in a theater (unless you use it against people talking on their cell phone)
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What a great scam!
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