Latest Study Questions Whether YouTube Really Hurts Viacom
from the perhaps-not-so-much dept
With Viacom suing Google for a billion dollars, claiming massive losses due to people watching its shows at YouTube rather than on TV, it certainly seems worth asking whether or not YouTube actually represents a loss to Viacom. Luckily, that's just the type of question economists like to dig in on -- and a new study basically finds that Viacom is almost certainly overreacting, and potentially harming itself in trying to kill YouTube. What the study found was that while there is a small decrease in how much time people spend in front of a TV if they're watching videos online, they end up watching a lot more overall programming. That is, the decrease is made up and more (a lot more) online. And, in other ways, it may be helping increase TV viewership, as someone who watches a show online becomes a lot more likely to watch that show on TV as well -- simply switching back and forth between whichever media is more preferable at the time. In other words (and this shouldn't come as a surprise) those clips on the web help promote the TV series that are available and help build up new loyal viewers... and all of these promotions come without the company having to pay a dime for the promotion. And that's what Viacom is suing over? People helping to promote their shows? Admittedly, the study only focuses on college kids, who may not be a representative sample of the wider US -- but given the core demographic most TV shows are going after (and the folks Viacom is most worried about losing to the web), this study certainly suggests Viacom is totally wrong about yet another thing.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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The risk of someone pressing a CD and selling it is there whether or not Viacom is online. The risk of it happening if the video is on youtube increases by a grand-spanking total of 0% since youtube stuff can't be downloaded.
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actually, that's not true.. It's very easy to download and convert youtube videos and put them on disk, or your ipod, etc.
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Be careful now...that's a lot of stress to put on your brain.
Now, your first mistake was arguing "No," as in "the study is complete bulls***." Arguments usually work better when you actually address the opposition vs. trying to simply deny it. So, I'll actually adress yours...
Ok, yeah...every re-distribution of IP, that doesn't directly return profit, is a "lost sale." But, each "lost sale" can easily be made up for with indirect profit through building up a larger fan-base. Actually allowing that IP to be shared 1) doesn't piss of your customers (unlike suing all of them and the sharing services they actually like to use) and 2) will most likely convince more customers to actually go buy the real product (i.e., more overall, vs. per-item, profit for the IP owners).
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Stealing Content Not Right
deprives income from royalties and residuals to individuals, not just the studio's.
Even if it promotes the studio's works, which is up for debate on how much it works, the studio should have the final say on how, where and how much (if any) should be paid to the studio for their copyrighted works.
And why would Viacom care about some study that suggests that they might benefit from allowing their copyrighted programing to appear on a website that pays them nothing?
I'm starting to think to many Internet users feel that everything they want to use should be without cost.
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That's an amazing thought, now really, why would any company care about BENEFITING from something, when they can just shut it down and get no benefit. Now really, what company needs to benefit from anything when they can just lose fan base for free!
And nevermind the fact that you did not even address the real question of why does YouTube get sued and not the people posting the videos.
Welcome to the circling boat of movie and music conglomerates, Max, where no one thinks that something should be changed about their business models even as they struggle to sustain their current ones.
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using content in a manner that the copyright holder does not authorize is not stealing. viacom still has it's rights and access to the materials regardless of what ends up on youtube.
not making money is not the same as losing money just like standing still is not the same as moving backwards.
there is a huge difference between wanting something at a price that is reasonable relative to it's cost and wanting something for nothing. the cost of web streaming is minimal when compared to the cost of making the tv broadcasts and DVDs they have already paid to make.
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Do they have to?
They can sue anyone for breach of copyright at any time, even if they let someone previously to break their copyright - so someone producing a disk of their shows and selling it (commercially I'm guessing you mean) could still be sued after the fact, regardless of whether they go after youtube.
Or am I wrong?
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Viacom should just stop broadcasting this stuff if they really feel so strongly about preventing people from watching it.
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Where are these safe harbor laws?
At this point, I don't know how things stand. I'll have to read the complaint, etc. The problem that I see is reputational. Maybe Google will be forced to pay, but Viacom is already looking like a dinosaur.
For sale: media company (obsolete) to produce physical artifacts of temporary, plastic culture.
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Here is wikipedia article for example, if Mike's articles weren't good enough.
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Viacom Inc spanking youtube now!
Viacom Inc spanking youtube now! that do us hurt and we hated VIACOM! VlACOM look to us spying as see that we billions Youtube viewers watch video on youtube clips video of MTV, youtube most pay to VlACOM $1 billion!
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