Amazon Patents Net Present Value-Based Delivery Dates
from the and-the-rich-get-faster-delivery dept
theodp writes "Just in time for holiday shopping, the USPTO has awarded Amazon a patent for Generating Current Order Fulfillment Plans Based on Expected Future Orders, which explains how to use modeled net present value to adjust an order's delivery date favorably or unfavorably based upon expectations that the customer will have high-profit orders in the future. So don't blame Santa if that special gift isn't under the tree on Christmas morning, kids - it could just be dear-old-Dad's low NPV score!"Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Man I love Amazon
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The real problem with the patent system that Amazon probably felt they had to file this patent or run the risk of some troll patenting the idea and then demanding $100 Million dollars for "his" "intellectual property". Defensive patent stockpiling is the order of the day - and the only rational response by successful companies to the multiple attempts to extort money from them on the flimsiest pretexts.
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Effecting data?
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Long time coming
It seems to be a natural extension of logistics management, the target being optimised long-term cost. They're trying to balance "customer satisfaction" with short-term (shipping, packaging, transportation) and long-term (customer return rate, order fulfillment rate) costs.
The way I see this, your order could be expedited (order diverted from overloaded warehouse to slightly further but unburdened one) or delayed (shipment deferred to slightly further but much cheaper warehouse).
In short, Amazon "tries to please everyone" while lowering their own costs. Of course, this is just my interpretation of patent moonspeak, it could very well be something else altogether - we can only wait and see how this affects Amazon's performance.
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Re: Long time coming
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Saving Costs
Like most companies, they always make the announcement sound like they are doing the customer a favor and saving money is just a byproduct.
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Or are we talking about who has the priority in receiving ordered units when there is a limited amount (such as a shortage of new release video games and such)?
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How long before Amazon recognizes this will kill their business?
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A big thumbs up for Vincent!
Well anyone, why is it? Businesses have been doing this to one degree or another since businesses were first created and certainly on a large, carefully studied, scale for decades. Isn't this just another case where an old idea naturally progresses into the e-space? Nothing new or novel that should be patented?
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Amazing
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I knew someone was gonna post with some common sense.
/sarcasm
In an ideal world you would be right but since we are talking about business where profit margin is the number one priority good customer service takes a back seat.
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US Bank actually has been using this system for years. The more products you have with them, plus a high credit rating will equal better customer service and choices for you.
Just trying to ensure we try very hard to be the best consumers we can be.
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Dumbest Mistake
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So let me getthis straight...
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Positive Feedback
I am now a very reluctant shopper at Amazon after one of the reps told me on the phone that if you choose free shipping, your order goes through a delivery tar pit (Delivery is deliberately delayed)
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Amazon's Order Fulfillment
Amazon's order fulfillment process is insanely complex and involves hundreds of different variables which impact customer satisfaction and costs. Since keeping costs (and thus prices) as low as possible is also a major factor of customer satisfaction, it's important to understand that the underlying principle for all of the algorithms used is to maximize the customer experience. But that's very complicated. Without disclosing any trade secrets, here are a few of the types of parameters which go into the order fulfillment decisions:
* What has the customer paid for? If they've paid for next-day delivery, Amazon assumes they want their order as quickly as possible. Likewise, if they've chosen super-saver free shipping, they assume it's not needed that quickly.
* Where is the inventory? Amazon has many distribution centers scattered across the U.S.A. and not all items are available at each center. It obviously costs less to quickly get an item to a customer from a nearby warehouse. But it might be necessary to ship from further away.
* Are inventory levels as low as possible? To maximize cash flow and utilization of its warehouse space, Amazon is very aggressive about managing its inventory levels. This may mean that rarely ordered items are not kept in inventory and may require time to source from a supplier. It also means that Amazon tries to move inventory out to customers as quickly as possible. Usually, delaying shipments has inventory costs. Believe me, Amazon has no desire to own inventory one minute more than it has to.
* Where is there space for inventory? Related to the above point, space can get very very tight in the Amazon warehouses, especially before the holidays. They just may not have room for dozens of 60" plasma TVs in every distribution center.
* Does the item need to be ordered from a distributor or manufacturer? If an item is not in Amazon's inventory it may already be on order and due on a future date supplied by the source or it may need to be ordered. Obviously it's cheaper to buy large volumes directly from a manufacturer, but those items may not be available quickly. If a customer has paid for next-day delivery though, Amazon will pay to get that item to them.
* Which distribution center has enough people working today? To help keep employees happy, Amazon tries to smooth work loads. Employees prefer to know when and how many hours they will be working next week. When there are high volumes of orders, this may mean delaying some low-priority orders.
* Which distribution center has capacity in their automated systems? It's much cheaper to fulfill an order using Amazon's automated facilities than to do it using manual labor. But only so many orders can go through these automated systems a day. Orders may be routed to a different fulfillment center, or delayed to minimize the handling costs.
* Are there any automated fulfillment lines? For big ticket items (think new Harry Potter book) Amazon will often dedicate mechanized packaging and shipping hardware to just that product. It may be much cheaper to wait a couple days until one of these mechanized production lines is in place before fulfilling an order.
* Which shipping company is cheapest? Amazon utilizes just about every common carrier in the U.S. and can even use them together to minimize shipping costs and reduce delivery times. These rates change regularly and service levels can vary from day to day. It may cost 50% less to get a non-next day order to a customer by waiting a day or two before shipping it.
* Do the shipping companies have capacity? Many of Amazon's distribution centers are in low-cost rural areas. It's not uncommon for Amazon to max-out the capacity of UPS, DHL, USPS, FedEx, or other shipping companies from one of these centers. If that happens, an order for New York City may end up coming from Nevada rather than near-by Pennsylvania.
* How quickly can Amazon be paid for an order? Legally, Amazon can't charge you for an order until that order has shipped. To maximize cash flow, Amazon normally tries to get orders out as quickly as possible so they can be paid as quickly as possible.
* How good of a customer is this? And yes, if you're a good customer, Amazon will spend more to keep you happy. In extreme cases, I've seen Amazon send employees to local Walmarts or other retailers to buy an item which is then couriered to a great customer. Believe me, this isn't cheap. This cost and effort doesn't go into a first-time buyer's Super Saver order.
These are just a handful of the types of decisions which have to be made for every order. During peak periods Amazon handles over a million orders a day; trying to balance and optimize all of these constantly changing variables is a difficult job but I believe the company does a pretty good job of it. And yes, I believe there is intellectual property in the software created by Amazon to make this happen.
In general, I think Amazon's customer service is great. But when I hear that some individual customer service rep, who is probably sitting in West Virginia or India and has never seen the algorithms used for fulfillment or even been to one of Amazon's fulfillment centers explains how free shipping works, I just have to giggle. They really have no idea.
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I have used the free shipping option a few times. Sometimes the order sits for several days before being shipped and I think it is part of a plan to "train" me to not use free shipping. Other times the order ships right away and arrives in two days.
Now I see that it is a combination of factors, coincidental with my choice of free shipping, that causes those orders to sit for a few days.
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Amazon Fulfillment Formula Patent - reaction
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This Amazon being Amazon
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And just where have you been, foul customer?!
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Here's an idea
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AKA: Delivery Dates Bait and Switch
We received notification that Amazon would not be able to deliver an item ordered on November 17th until at least January 2nd, or as late s January 25th. Amazon's claims that an order cannot be canceled once the item is "in the shipping process". This ongoing practice is dishonest and utterly ridiculous.
We're sick of Amazon's deceptive practices. We'll simply order elsewhere, and will no longer use Amazon. Oh, and they'll get to pay the return shipment and stocking fees too boot.
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