Trent Reznor Continues Business Model Experiments: Releases Latest Album Online

from the with-choices... dept

Mon, Mar 3rd 2008 3:11am — Mike Masnick

Trent Reznor has certainly been doing a lot of experimenting lately with business models. His last album, which was still on a major label, involved some unique promotional attempts, which actually upset his record label. He also recognized that since the CD itself was going to compete with online downloads that he needed to make the physical CD worth purchasing by making it cool (in this case, color changing after you played it). Late last year, he also experimented with offering free downloads for an album he produced with Saul Williams. While he admitted he was a bit "disheartened" that not that many people paid for the album, he also noted how much attention the album got and Saul Williams admitted that it was working out great overall.

Now that Reznor is totally off-label, he's pulled a bit of a Radiohead, surprising just about everyone by simply announcing his new Nine Inch Nails album on his website and offering a variety of options in how to get it. Given his disappointment with the Saul Williams experiment, perhaps it's not a surprise that he hasn't totally embraced the free concept. The album itself is 36 songs, nearly two and a half hours of music -- but he's only offering the first nine songs for free. However, he is offering a variety of choices for people who do want to pay -- starting with $5 for a complete download (in a choice of high-quality, DRM-free formats) of all songs plus a 40-page PDF of additional content and a "digital extras pack" with graphics that can be used as wallpaper, icons and anything else.

There are other options as well, reminiscent of other musicians who try to offer reasons why you should spend more. For Reznor, those options include a $10 2-disc CD with 16-page booklet (and all the downloads), a $75 Deluxe Edition which includes the CD, a data DVD with all of the content and a Blu-ray high definition DVD with an accompanying slideshow, and finally, a $300 "Ultra-Deluxe Limited Edition Package" that includes everything in the Deluxe Edition plus a vinyl version of the album, limited edition Giclee prints packaged in a "luxurious package" which will be numbered and signed by Trent (only 2,500 of those are available).

While those options could be improved upon (and only offering up the first nine tracks for free certainly won't stop the rest from being available online), it's yet another example of a musician recognizing that a plan that lets fans pick which option is worth it -- and making sure to provide real value for the different options -- is the wave of the future for business models. I'm also a bit surprised that he didn't follow the lead of several other musicians in tying the packages to other things, such as live events. Still, it's another good example of a musician experimenting with important new business models. Update: Two additional points that are worth mentioning. The album has been released under a Creative Commons license and Trent has seeded many bittorrent sites himself with the first nine songs.

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Guille, 3 Mar 2008 @ 3:50am

Creative Commons licensed
Keep in mind that according to the FAQ, Ghosts is released under a CC-BY-NC-SA license, so nothing stops you from getting the whole thing somewhere else if $5 is too much.
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Hellsvilla, 3 Mar 2008 @ 4:18am

well
Apparently he wasn't really disheartened after all. Now let's hope that he doesn't get disheartened that many of his fans don't even bother stealing this album, which is over 2 and a half hours of instrumentals.

Trent, stop making instrumentals. I have all your albums, I don't buy them for the instrumentals. I rip everything to my ipod, I delete the instrumentals.

The instrumentals, they aren't what you think they are.
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Dan, 3 Mar 2008 @ 4:25am

great, except site
The options are great, cept when I went to the site and tried to order the CD, or do anything else, it got hung up between the first and second pages (moving to the purchase-cart-quantity page). Reloading it did not help. (Meanwhile I am running a speed check and it shows a strong connection at 1.5 MPS).

Web to Reznor, you need to have a site that works if you want people to use it.
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Reason, 3 Mar 2008 @ 4:42am

Re: Creative Commons licensed
Keep in mind that the future of (legal) music distribution might depend on the success of this strategy. Also keep in mind the Creative Commons license is simply a pragmatic way of saying they won't bother going after your ass if you pirate it, but that they are still hoping you will shell out some money for their work. Seriously, where else have you seen offered THIRTY-SIX (36) tracks in DRM-free, lossless quality (+ a nice artwork PDF) for 5 meagre bucks? Apple would charge you that for 5 tracks, which isn't even half an album. If $5 is too much for good music AND a cause, you disgust me.
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Liam, 3 Mar 2008 @ 4:50am

Re: Re: Creative Commons licensed
what is you are a single parent, bringing up two young children, who need food, clothing and somewhere to live, and you have a budget which covers that and only that, yet you are a music lover and download the album on bittorrent.

If that disgusts you then, you are a disgusting person.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2008 @ 4:58am

Re: Re: Re: Creative Commons licensed
Apparently you have never heard of sacrifices. Don't try to mix needs and wants and give them the same priority.
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Sajjon, 3 Mar 2008 @ 5:08am

Re: Creative Commons licensed
Liam...And your choice to have two children and the unfortunate circumstance of your children being raised in a single parent home somehow justifies the theft of someones product? Please tell me this is not what you are teaching your children. Get rid of the internet connection and you would have the money to buy the album in stores, or some food for the kids. Choose your consequence wisely.
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Jake, 3 Mar 2008 @ 5:13am

Not strictly true, 'Reason'. I'd say it's more of an acknowledgement of the that suing people for the modern equivalent of home-taping is more trouble than it's worth. It also saves him having to play phone-tag with Weird Al.
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rb6elite, 3 Mar 2008 @ 5:24am

Re: great, except site
the site works...it was just so clogged by people eager to download the album. too many people on the site, and it proves that people ARE going to buy it.

(and to the person who said "stop making instrumentals", you obviously aren't a true fan, because many of the instrumentals are some of the most beautifully composed pieces of music in the modern era. fans do like them. 'La Mer' was a gigantic success in its era)

also this is the greatest musical deal i have yet to see. if you aren't willing to pay 5$ for 36 tracks, go die in a hole...its less than 14 cents a track, in 320kbps. otherwise deal with 9 tracks for free.
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rb6elite, 3 Mar 2008 @ 5:27am

Re:
mainly it allows for this:

remix.nin.com

all 36 tracks will be released as multitrack .wavs for remixing. it worked great with yearzero.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2008 @ 5:37am

You've got to be kidding
Three Hundred Dollars ?????

Holy Crap !
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2008 @ 5:49am

Re: Re: Re: Creative Commons licensed
Liam:

You should not try to justify downloading music for free; because, there is no justification. People like Trent Reznor are just trying to cope with "the way things are", meaning that copyright violations and people stealing music cannot be stopped.
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Reason, 3 Mar 2008 @ 6:05am

Re:
Well, 'Jake', isn't that more or less what I said? Not bothering = more trouble than what it's worth.
In any case, it actually seems to be mostly for what rb6elite said, allowing free remixes, which I hadn't noticed before.
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Guille, 3 Mar 2008 @ 6:07am

Re: Re: Creative Commons licensed
Don't get me wrong, I gladly paid the $10 for the CDs, and might have paid for the deluxe pack if it weren't for the damn venezuelan foreign exchange restrictions. But my comment was aimed mostly at the "not embraced the free concept" line in the article, since (in my opinion) he's embracing the free concept by giving explicit permission to copy and redistribute the material. I think the success of this strategy depends not only on how many downloads they sell, but also on how much exposure the music gets and on how much of that exposure is translated into additional revenue from concerts and whatnot. And the freely distribution and remixing of the music made possible by the CC license is one way to achieve that.
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Killer_Tofu (profile), 3 Mar 2008 @ 6:19am

I Love NIN
I have been a fan of NIN since I was introduced to it.
I started with Pretty Hate Machine and its remix cds for Head Like a Hole, Down In It, and Sin and then moved on to all the rest.
I will admit that I did not know of him really until about The Downward Spiral, but that is fine.
There is a definite evolution to his music over time if you start with the first disc (just ignore remix cds for the sake of saving time) and continue all the way up to now with Year Zero and now Ghosts.

And Hellsvilla, rb6elite is most definitely right on the money, Reznor has always had instrumental tracks. I love all of them.

As another commentor mentioned, he uses the Creative Commons so that people will take and remix his songs. He highly encourages it.

And as for why the page was having issues for your order Dan (post #3), its because too many people are using it.
He states it on his most recent blog post.
http://www.nin.com/
Note: There is no saying how long that post will be up.
His blog contains no history. However, there are a couple dan sites out there that document all of his blog posts. You will just need to find the March 2nd entry.
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Reason, 3 Mar 2008 @ 6:25am

Re: Re: Re: Creative Commons licensed
Well, if you are under such grievous circumstances and $5 really is too much, I suppose even Reznor wouldn't mind. But even then, consider that they are still giving you 9 tracks of the album for free...
In any case, my comment was actually directed at the many more pirates (of which I am one, btw) who use the overblown prices of corporate music as a rationalization to download music, because $5 for a lossless double album (or quadruple, whichever way you want to see it) IS a pretty fair deal, in addition to the fact that by supporting this move you'd be putting your money where your mouth is.
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Reason, 3 Mar 2008 @ 6:39am

Re: Re: Creative Commons licensed
Again the theft fallacy, huh? NIN released it under Creative Commons, so there isn't even a copyright infringement if you download it at all. The point isn't that. The point is that they are offering a good deal for most, in addition to making a move towards a fairer but still workable music economy. If you can afford it and the combination doesn't convince you of showing your monetary support, you deserve the scorn of a hypocritical parasite.
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Cognoscenti, 3 Mar 2008 @ 6:48am

The Saul Williams Effort
If Trent Reznor was disappointed with the success of Niggy Tardust by Saul Williams (or rather, the lack of it), perhaps he needs to refresh his perspective. Saul Williams is talented, but he is not well-known. His music is innovative, and therefore not conventional. The outcome, therefore, could only come in one of two ways:

1) Niggy Tardust is embraced by the masses as it becomes a seminal event in music history

2) Niggy Tardust will attract the fraction of music lovers out there looking for something off the beaten path and more innovative

I think sales reflected the latter. Hell, even for those who decided to not pay, I'll bet you won't have much luck finding it among their playlists. I predict Ghosts I-IV will be on par with Trent's last instrumental release: neither raging success nor abysmal failure, but certainly a treat for his fans.

Trent has displayed one of the keenest insights of any musician today on this shifting market, but I nevertheless hope he sees the lay of the land as clearly as we do.
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Pope Ratzo, 3 Mar 2008 @ 7:10am

No mas
For Reznor, those options include a $10 2-disc CD with 16-page booklet (and all the downloads), a $75 Deluxe Edition which includes the CD, a data DVD with all of the content and a Blu-ray high definition DVD with an accompanying slideshow, and finally, a $300 "Ultra-Deluxe Limited Edition Package" that includes everything in the Deluxe Edition plus a vinyl version of the album, limited edition Giclee prints packaged in a "luxurious package" which will be numbered and signed by Trent (only 2,500 of those are available).

How much to have Reznor come and give me a backrub?

At some point, either your music's worth something or it's not.
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Sandoz, 3 Mar 2008 @ 7:21am

always a tech pioneer
Ah, the complexities of Mr. Reznor. I've been a fan of his since 1988, so that is 20 years of conflict over a talented musician who happens to be an unyielding misogynist. What's a girl to do...
He's always been a pioneer in music and technology and it is really exciting to see him extend this as not only an artist but also a business man. I really, really hope this pans out and starts to empower other musicians to take innovative approaches toward their music distribution. I hope his chutzpah is rewarded. btw- I also find many of his instrumentals to be some of his most amazing and enduring work. If music boils down to vocals for you, go download some Celine Dion.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2008 @ 7:21am

But Mike....
This will clearly only work with NIN or other large bands. It's not proven until 50% or more of the artists release music this way, duh!
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nunya_bidness, 3 Mar 2008 @ 7:37am

perfect
"At some point, either your music's worth something or it's not."

Well put, Thank You.
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Kevin, 3 Mar 2008 @ 8:01am

Re: But Mike....
This will clearly only work with NIN or other large bands. It's not proven until 50% or more of the artists release music this way, duh!

I'm not so sure about the "clearly" part since only a handful of bands have "announced" similar methods of distribution, and most of them have been large. But that may be because only the large bands will be well-known enough that media take notice of the announcements on a national or international scale.

However, there are also a large number of smaller, less-known bands who have been trying to make a living from "alternative" (i.e., not "big label") distribution methods for years. How successful are they? I'm sure some of them make a living at it without having become internationally known musicians. Some of them undoubtedly do break through or cross over to the big label model. But just because only a handful of former major-label acts are getting press for adopting alternative models is no reason to assume that the models can't work for other musicians.
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Reason, 3 Mar 2008 @ 8:18am

Re: No mas
Your point being?
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minusxero, 3 Mar 2008 @ 8:56am

And more clarification
For clarification, not only does Trent realize the whole album will be distributed, he doesn't really care.

"Undoubtedly you'll be able to find the complete collection on the same torrent network you found this file, but if you're interested in the release, we encourage you to check it out at ghosts.nin.com, where the complete Ghosts I-IV is available directly from us in a variety of DRM-free digital formats, including FLAC lossless, for only $5. You can also order it on CD, or as a deluxe package with multitrack audio files, high definition audio on Blu-ray disc, and a large hard-bound book."
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Chronno S. Trigger, 3 Mar 2008 @ 9:02am

Re: Re: But Mike....
He's being sarcastic. He's poking fun at all those ACs out there that keep switching back and forth between "it will only work for big bands" and "it will only work for new bands" and the infamous AC last week who said he would only change his business plan if it works for more than 50% of bands.
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CyberNorris, 3 Mar 2008 @ 9:33am

downloads don't work
I have tried the free download multiple times from multiple computers. The zip file is corrupt. I hope they're not delivering screwed up zip files to the paying customers.
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Cixelsid, 3 Mar 2008 @ 9:39am

Its hard to see how this won't be a success. He's got a pretty solid fanbase and the novelty of downloading lossless DRM free audio is generating a lot of mediahype.

The site is already taking strain under the load of a lot of purchases.
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Chronno S. Trigger, 3 Mar 2008 @ 10:56am

Re: downloads don't work
I had the same problem. I recommend getting the torrent off of pirate bay.

Since Trent doesn't seem to have a problem with us sharing the files ourselves, I'll throw it up on rapidshare or something if you don't have bit-torrent. Just let me know.
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Robert, 3 Mar 2008 @ 11:27am

Re: Re: Creative Commons licensed
Copyright Infringement is NOT Theft.
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average reader, 3 Mar 2008 @ 11:30am

Re: Re: No mas
At some point, either your music's worth something or it's not.
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JS Beckerist, 3 Mar 2008 @ 11:41am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Creative Commons licensed
A month without music would be boring. A month without food would be fatal.

I really think you need to get your priorities straightened, thievery aside...
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JS Beckerist, 3 Mar 2008 @ 11:42am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Creative Commons licensed
whoops replied to the wrong one, that was meant for Liam above (sorry)
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2008 @ 12:11pm

Thanks Chronno S. Trigger
Spot on.

I think that when we look back 5 to 10 years from now and see how the landscape has changed we'll be amazed. This is just one example of a very talented musician using his creative abilities to dream up new ways of doing what we all want to do -- make money, realizing that perhaps simple distribution does not have to be his prime method. We will see many new and exciting ways creative people will choose to promote themselves!
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Chronno S. Trigger, 3 Mar 2008 @ 12:12pm

Re: Re: downloads don't work
Here you go. I had to upload it for my sister that was having the same problem. I do know she will be paying the $5 for all the songs as soon as the traffic dies down.
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Killer_Tofu (profile), 3 Mar 2008 @ 12:23pm

Grr
Too many people hitting his site.
I want to buy the CD's dangit!!!
I have almost every single Halo so far.
Am missing but 2.
And they are more recent ones that were only released in Europe (Halo 18 and 20).
Must get Ghosts so I will still only be missing those two.
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2008 @ 12:37pm

Re: perfect
>> "At some point, either your music's worth something
>> or it's not."
>>
>> Well put, Thank You.
>>

Yes, it is well put, huh? Value-added content for $300.00? Signed by the artist? Who would have thought there was a market for this?

Oh yeah, the artist, who consequently is interested in making art, not manufacturing music.

Big difference between the two!
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Paul, 3 Mar 2008 @ 12:38pm

Re: well
It's odd that you'd assume that everybody thinks the same way you do in reference to his instrumentals. I for one feel he's of the few individuals these days that can even make an instrumental worth listening to. His instrumentals are amazing and I understand maybe they're not your cup of tea. Just don't go assuming they aren't anyone's cup of tea. People forget to not confuse their opinion with everybody else's.
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Paul, 3 Mar 2008 @ 12:42pm

Re: Re: Re: No mas
As opposed to that magical third option...
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2008 @ 12:54pm

Re: Re: Re: But Mike....
Don't you mean cory?
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Anonymous Coward, 3 Mar 2008 @ 2:23pm

i always said that if trent released a album that was not part of the RIAA i would buy it, now that he did his part i will do mine and buy his album...i havent even heard it but i dont care, i got alot of respect for trent.
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Anonymous Genius, 3 Mar 2008 @ 7:51pm

Simply Groundbreaking
I don't know how Mike thinks those options could be improved. This is an amazing breakthrough as far as delivery and pricepoint. I downloaded radiohead, and went back and chipped in $3. They should get massive credit, however this changes everything, especially putting it out on the piratebay after his website would not work. For $5 I would buy albums of band I only kind of like just to support them, and simply realizing that the itunes model of digital only (except without paying a middle man ahem apple) and going nearly word of mouth just makes me plain excited to see who will follow in his footsteps. No need for newspapers, or some other alternate distribution in the model of free. The product sold itself sight unseen. I bought the album as soon as I could, the servers didn't work, but there is no need to get angry, trent is like the google of the music world, I trusted that I would get it soon enough and the torrents came through at record speed. Ok maybe he isn't the google of music, but I am still very, very impressed.
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Killer_Tofu (profile), 4 Mar 2008 @ 5:07am

Yay CDs
Yup.
Bought my CDs for 10$ as soon as I got home. (it is 7$ shipping but I view this collection as worth the 17$, even if I haven't heard it yet, I have that much confidence since I have liked everything else he has done up until now).
However, I had an issue with the download. It got to 42MB of the 283, and then just stopped. It told me it was complete, but it wasn't. The zippers would not open the file, saying they did not recognize it. And since the download link is a one time use only, I was kinda SOL.
That is when I hit up the Pirate Bay. Got my discs in about a half hour.
Wish I had an eta for my physical copies though =P
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4-80-sicks, 4 Mar 2008 @ 5:25pm

Re: Re: Re: But Mike....
...infamous AC last week who said he would only change his business plan if it works for more than 50% of bands.
That was indeed Corey, and not an "AC;" The topic was books. I like Corey. It's great to have participation from someone with an opposing viewpoint who consistently uses a handle. Corey might disagree a lot, but he (or she) is not a troll!
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SomeGuy, 4 Mar 2008 @ 5:43pm

I second this: I disagree strongly with Cory, but he's really driven a lot of good discussion, and he's generally a reasonable fellow. If I knew who he was I'd prolly go buy one of his books, even if just to give him a pat on the back.
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SomeGuy, 4 Mar 2008 @ 8:06pm

Re: Simply Groundbreaking
Mostly, I think the only "improvements" would be more levels at a more-reasonable stepping; the $5 and $10 are very nice, but then it jumps to $75 and then all the way up to $300. It'd be nice if there were something at, say, $25 and $150. Or make it even more granular, with the idea being that some people can and would pay for other offerings.

Ghosts is the first CD I've bought since 2000. I only wish that there were a convenient way for me to support the band more (within my means). (And that there were a better digital distribution method, since the site's been swamped.)
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Anonymous Coward, 5 Mar 2008 @ 9:54am

Re: well
I think you are missing the point.

Some people actually really like the Instrumentals - Ever since Still, I've been hoping we would get another one. We did. This one's for people who like them (and many people do).
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NIN fan, 14 Mar 2008 @ 9:50am

Re: You've got to be kidding
i for one, saw the $300 option and really thought about getting it. its not everyday that you can get that kind of a package of the shelf (or find it anywhere at all)

there is nothing wrong in marketing for those with extra expendable cash, and are die hard fans
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Toad, 25 Mar 2008 @ 8:29pm

wow
All I have to say. NINs (Trent Rezner) is awesome. So shut up everyone thats complaining.
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