You Have No Privacy Anywhere: Administration Pushes Forward With Domestic Spy Satellite Program
from the don't-mind-us... dept
While everyone's arguing over the legality of warrantless wiretaps, it looks like the administration and the Department of Homeland Security have moved on to even bigger fish: using spy satellites to spy more thoroughly throughout the US. For rather obvious reasons, this has many folks concerned. The government has shown a decided lack of ability to "stick to the rules" when it comes on domestic spying programs, and given what some of these spy satellites can do, it has people concerned about why the US is using such military hardware, normally reserved to spy on enemy countries, to spy on our own citizens. Somehow, DHS boss Michael Chertoff's response to his critics isn't particularly reassuring:"There is no basis to suggest that this process is in any way insufficient to protect the privacy and civil liberties of Americans... I think we've fully addressed anybody's concerns. I think the way is now clear to stand it up and go warm on it."To translate: "You should trust us, because we're trustworthy people who would never do anything wrong (please ignore all we've done wrong over the past few years). So, now that that's settled, let's get this baby rolling..."
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Why do they need it?
"Because we can."
There is literally no reason do this except in extreame situations (Waco type situations).
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because we can
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Honestly, as much as I despise the current administration (Calling him a spawn of satan would be too kind), I despise even more the "my party's different" attitude that most Bush haters exhibit. And if a Democrat wins, I will then despise all the "I told you so" Republicans with equal fervor.
What a nation of sheep the country that I love has become.
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On the other hand, since Bush seems to have gotten away with it...
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Small Steps...
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What happened to democracy?
Why do we let the government get away with whatever it wants?
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Re: What happened to democracy?
Since we are nation ruled by indirect means, whatever the people say does not necessarily go, as is evident by many events and actions by the government over the years.
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This country is run by corporations who enrich themselves off of spying on us and developing profiles of our behavior that allow them to fleece more money from us. These corporations run America, and if you don't understand that then you need to study history. Isn't that your duty as a citizen?!
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Mindless mo-rons
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It's the idea that it can effect you, not if it actually will or not. I don't care how secure that information is in the government. All they should care about is collecting my tax and protecting me from outside threats.
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Unless of course you're just another hypocritical fascist with your head so far up Bush's ass that you can see Chertoff's ankles.
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It is the fact that they COULD be watching you that is the issue. Imagine if you let this continue and in 10 years time when you are sick of other people blindly choosing what is best for you. Try voice your opinion then and see how fast they throw you in a dark hole.
They should make 1984 a book taught at all schools.
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He's both. Smart liars aren't so easy to spot.
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No Privacy Anywhere , Domestic Spying , Asst. Issues.
It is going to take real Heart, Spirit, and Balls for what most Human Beings know is Right to have any impact on it !
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Mike, quit. Please. Every time i click a google-techdirt I pray its not one of yours, so that I might actually read something that isnt dreck.
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w/e
I seriously don't get it. Maybe if we didn't parade our superiority complex around the world we wouldn't be so much of a target that we need to monitor our own citizens.
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You'd be surprised what a spy bird with high resolution infrared imaging and penetrating radar can see inside a structure. Not only illegal activities but things like sexual practices as well. I'm sure most people wouldn't mind the cops passing such videos around amongst themselves, would they? Don't cops deserve free "reality" porn?
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When is enough, enough?
2. If you are truly worried about the government watching your every move, you must be sending your Internet messages from a cave beside Bin Laden. You better take off your wrist watch, the government may be able to fire a laser beam from space into your right ear.
3. Think of all the things that you do that track you already:
a. Your credit / debit card / bank transactions
b. Your tollway transponder in your vehicle / OnStar
c. Cell Phone | movements, calls, and data usage
d. Purchase rewards programs / airlines / Amazon / iTunes
e. Internet usage, anonymous coward postings / chat sessions
f. Travel plans / tickets / gas purchases
4. Why-o-why would I even need to use a multi-billion dollar satellite to get your position, you've already given it to me. All the government needs to collect this is a warrant, which seem to come pretty easily. (sometimes they don't bother)
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Often attributed to Ben Franklin
Interesting times.
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Since when?
"So says a Saudi cleric:
"The problem is that they want to open a debate on whether Islam is true or not, and on whether Judaism and Christianity are false or not. In other words, they want to open up everything for debate. Now they want to open up all issues for debate. That's it. It begins with freedom of thought, it continues with freedom of speech, and it ends up with freedom of belief. So where's the conspiracy? They say: Let's have freedom of thought in Islam...
They say: I think, therefore I want to express my thoughts. I want to express myself, I want to talk and say, for example, that there are loopholes in Islam, or that Christianity is the truth. Then they will talk about freedom of belief, and say that anyone is entitled to believe in whatever he wants... If you want to become an apostate - go ahead. Fancy Buddhism? Leave Islam, and join Buddhism. No problem. That's what freedom of belief is all about. They want freedom of everything. What they want is very dangerous."
So, make fun of the people trying to protect you. Keep smoking whatever you're smoking. The crazies will have you bowing to mecca soon enough...
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domestic liberties
--Glenn
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Right Now
you in on a HUGE secret.
Go to the super-duper-ultra-top-secret website maps.google.com. Now stay with me because this is really technical. Type in your home address and click "Search Maps". Then click on "Satellite".
OMFG! THEY'RE WATCHING YOU RIGHT NOW!! THE WHOLE INTERNETS CAN SEE YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY IN YOUR BACKYARD!!!
Idiots.
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Americans need to stand up
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victim from this so called spy satellite...
Any one from the world able to advice how to protect myself from them in future or prove to public it did happened to me? Please anyone out there save me, I just need justice.
Seems helpless here without any support..... please help me.
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