Yet Another Company Tries Disposable DVDs, Despite A Looooong List Of Failed Predecessors

from the anything-different-this-time-around? dept

Fri, Apr 18th 2008 4:22pm — Mike Masnick

Lots of folks may remember DIVX, the massively overhyped self-destructing DVDs from Circuit City that failed back in 1999. But what fewer people realize is that this terrible and wasteful idea shows up every couple of years. And each time, it fails miserably. In 2001 some no name company claimed that it was doing disposable DVDs correctly, claiming they had learned from the failures of DIVX. Turns out, they hadn't. Then in 2003, Disney acted as if the idea was entirely brand new and got everyone excited about disposable DVDs that would self-destruct. Guess what? That failed too when no one bought them (amusingly, Disney duped a Reuters reporter into claiming there was "exploding interest" in disposable DVDs at the same time that stores were literally throwing the discs away). In 2005, Disney sold off the technology to some other company who insisted that they were going to do it "right" and there would be a huge market for these discs. Heard anything about them since? Me neither.

So here we are in 2008, and reader Nick Burns alerts us to the news of a German company excitedly entering this market with a product that sounds almost identical to the Disney version (using a chemical that renders the content unreadable in 48-hours). Somehow, even with a German accent, I don't see this latest attempt having much of a chance. It's not too difficult to understand why: nothing about a disposable self-destructing DVD adds value for the end-user.

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Zack, 18 Apr 2008 @ 4:42pm

Do it right.
What they have to do is write an executable code that erases everything before set checkpoints, so you can't regain the data. They should also password protect it so that people can't put it on their computers.
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- ehrichweiss, 19 Apr 2008 @ 9:38am
  
  Re: Do it right.
  I'll take that as your statement that you've never been involved in reverse engineering, cryptography or cracking. It's not that easy by any stretch of the imagination since there are a multitude of ways to bypass these methods.
  
  P.S. Mike, I thought that the DIVX DVD's were DRM'ed, in the way that we all dread thinking about today, to specific players that could handle the disks and that you had to get a confirmation code to play them more than the set number of times. It's been almost 10 years but I don't remember truly disposable DVD's becoming a reality until around 2003 or so.
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Eric the Grey, 18 Apr 2008 @ 5:15pm

This would only benefit a few people.
Those who would be willing (and technically competent enough) to rip said DVDs and make copies of them on their computer for future use.

It's a very easy thing to do, if you know where to find the tools. Most people don't do this because they either don't have the technical skill to properly use the tools, or simply don't know where to find them.

So yea, it'll fail again.

EtG
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Jake, 18 Apr 2008 @ 5:21pm

If they want to make money out of the technology, they're probably best off selling it to the British government so that it doesn't matter when a DVD-R containing three million people's personal details gets lost in the post.
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PRMan, 18 Apr 2008 @ 6:47pm

I'm working on a chemical myself...
I'm investing heavily on a chemical that stabilizes the DVDs. I think I'll do really well.

Just kidding. How many times to people have to fail at this before they realize that nobody wants it?
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ReallyEvilCanine, 18 Apr 2008 @ 6:49pm

Iceland has 'em
The 10-11 convenience stores (many of which are open 24 hrs now) have display racks of the things. Never seen anyone leafing through actually buy one and couldn't be bothered to fork out €5 or €6 to take one and try to rip it.
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DooBie, 18 Apr 2008 @ 7:45pm

DivX
First off isn't it "DivX," not "DIVX"? Secondly, I think the reason that the DivX idea never worked was because they tried to copyright/lockdown MPEG-4. XviD is way better than DivX due to some main factors: It's open, and it is compatible with other MPEG-4 codecs. As long as you know how to switch the FOURCCs for your files you can decode anything with only a few codecs. DivX didn't anticipate this and thought that since it was expensive, it could get away with selling something that's already free to those who want it.
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- DanC, 18 Apr 2008 @ 7:58pm
  
  Re: DivX
  You seem to be confusing the DivX video codec and the DIVX DVDs that Circuit City was selling. Two different things entirely...
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Anonymous Coward, 18 Apr 2008 @ 8:01pm

No, DIVX is DIgital Video eXpress. More or less DRM'd media that was released when Joe Sixpack actually cared about media not being DRM-crippled..
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Anonymous Coward, 19 Apr 2008 @ 7:30am

These new discs should be made to float.
That way they can add to the plastic bottle armada.
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Crazy Coyote, 19 Apr 2008 @ 8:19am

I thought they were disposable
Just kidding. When I worked for a computer company we would fill a D-Container every week. Customers wanted thier own images installed. If I could only find a use for them besides rear view mirrors and clocks! Nic cards filled the other D-container. Where they went I do not know but it really sucked having to buy a NIC card for home when you just threw a few hundred away.
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Russ, 19 Apr 2008 @ 8:57am

Maybe
I suppose they could work if they defined the market right. I doubt that they will. The fundamental characteristic is that the discs are one time use. And how much do people want to pay for a one time use? Not too damn much.

For example, using them as a promo would be an effective DRM.

If they wanted to sell directly, anything more than a netflix rental or on demand download is a non starter.

They could make a living from these by but a paradigm change NO.
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- Anonymous Coward, 19 Apr 2008 @ 11:12am
  
  Re: Maybe
  they could give them away at theatres with extra content like behind the scenes, goof reels, alternate endings maybe hype the extra content that will be on the DVD when it comes out or hype a sequel or even have the prequel on it..so that when the DVD came out it would tease the consumer to shill out a few bucks to buy the DVD.
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John (profile), 19 Apr 2008 @ 3:56pm

Waste...
As post #9 sort-of pointed out, what is the end-result in disposable DVD's? Yep, more WASTE! Let's see... people watch the DVD, then a chemical renders the disc useless, then what? People throw it away? Aren't we throwing enough crap away already?

Instead of arguing whether this technology will work or be accepted, let's argue about how bad it is for the environment. As much as people may hate Blockbuster or Netflix, at least their customers recycle DVD's by returning them to the rental company.

I think we should boycott any company that promotes "disposable" anything. Instead, we should be encouraging companies who promote re-usable products.

As an aside, downloadable movies and TV shows are even better for the environment since there's not even a disc involved!
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- Evil Hippie, 20 Apr 2008 @ 3:56pm
  
  Re: Waste...
  Thank You.
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Alan Heaberlin, 21 Apr 2008 @ 4:41am

Self destructive?
Good Morning Mr. Phelps...
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Supertramp, 21 Apr 2008 @ 10:11am

It would work...
It work work if there were kiosks that sold the latest movies, burned to temporary DVDs for $1. Any more than that and no one will buy it. Why buy it, when you can rent it at a video store... why rent it at a video store, when you can rent as many videos as you want online for $20 a month?
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Anonymous Coward, 21 Apr 2008 @ 11:01am

Yeah.. $1.00
These would sell for a dollar or 99 cents, maybe out of a vending machine. How much did Disney try to charge for them? $5 or more?
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r. decline, 21 Apr 2008 @ 12:18pm

destroyed by chemical?
so what is the chance i wonder that this chemical could build up overtime on the player tray and dispose of my purchased dvds? obviously just something on there that reacts to the air, but not sure i would want to stick that in my ps3 or computer, maybe my 15 dollar apex player....
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Jerry Scott, 9 Apr 2009 @ 11:26pm

No market for disposable movies
First there was Digital Video Express (DivX), then there was EZ-DVDs, and now Einmal disposable DVDs. What are these companies thinking? How can they think that anyone would want a disposable movie? With all of the environmental issues going on with the world of course people would reject such a product simply for this, but factor in that the price isn't even a good deal and this is a losing cause. Redbox has the right idea. Charge $1 per night.
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