Is Anonymity Good Or Bad For Wikipedia?
from the depends-on-who-you-ask dept
Last year plenty of attention was paid to the release of Wikiscanner, a tool from Virgil Griffith that connected the IP addresses of Wikipedia edits with the companies from which they came. This resulted in a few PR flare ups as people noticed some questionable editing by biased parties. Griffith has now upgraded Wikiscanner to do even more (and renamed it to Wikiwatcher). While the revelations probably won't be as surprising, it will allow some way of connecting those who may have edited at home to their employers.However, perhaps an even more interesting discussion is somewhat buried at the end of the Forbes article linked above: the question over whether or not anonymity is a good or bad thing for Wikipedia. The article quotes Marc Rotenberg, the director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, complaining that Wikipedia needs to do a better job protecting individuals' privacy. Griffith responds that removing anonymity should improve the quality of Wikipedia:
"I would say that if people are anonymous, the quality of their contribution is probably much lower. Wouldn't you want Wikipedia users to be held accountable for what they change?"This brings up a few interesting questions. Rotenberg's complaint seems misplaced. The fact that your IP address is revealed with each edit is a known fact. Anyone editing Wikipedia should take that into account. That's hardly Wikipedia's problem. But anonymity can also be an important factor in getting content out. And so far, it appears that all of the "scandals" associated with Wikiscanner were related to biased parties changing info in their favor -- which certainly suggests Giffith has a point: catching those who are changing Wikipedia with ulterior motives does seem to improve the reliability of the site.
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Anons write quite a lot of content
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Re: Anons write quite a lot of content
I wasn't saying anything about requiring logins. I agree that it's better with it. The question is whether or not the IP addresses should be obfuscated.
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Semantics
If someone writes that you are a pedophile in Wikipedia and you go and change it are you a "biased party changing info in your favor"? The answer is yes, of course. But, assuming the charge is false, does that mean you should be chastised for making the change or prevented from making the change?
Identifying a party or their affiliation isn't proof of bias either. It's a conclusion that will most likely be jumped to without any other evidence (or as the Magliozzi brothers say, "unencumbered by the thought process").
All parties are biased to some degree. The issue isn't, or shouldn't be, are the parties biased but, are the changes factual enough and supported by other reputable publications to be in compliance with the requirements for an encyclopedia.
Peace,
Rob:-]
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IP Problem
Sure, in the cases of a corporate IP - this could prove more useful where a static IP address is typically given to a network. However, most ISPs like Cable and DSL connections assign dynamic IP addresses to their customers which are constantly changing.
If people's anonymity has any bearing on the quality of their contributions (aside from the obvious corporate trolling) - perhaps we should then question the anonymous financial contributions made to charities every year which amount to hundreds of millions for those organizations.
I'm not strictly comparing the two but I don't believe that forcing people to login will do anything at all. Considering how easy it is to "spoof" yourself, you are merely putting up a roadblock for those who just don't want to be bothered but could have something of interest to add to any given article.
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Modest proposal
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Re: Modest proposal
Think about it: what if a registered user does a minor modification on something that an anonymous user posted (say, corrected a typo)? What would people who had the "filter" on see?
The only way to allow something like that would be to create two totally separate wikis, which would definitely be out of the question in this case.
Also, for the record, Wikipedia does "semi-protect" articles that receive a large amount of vandalism. Semi-protected articles require editors to be registered to edit them.
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Citizendium, Anyone?
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Citizendium
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http://www.sfweekly.com/2008-02-13/news/wikipedia-idiots-the-edit-wars-of-san-francisco/
However, she was forced to resign from her newspaper, the SF Weekly, for using newspaper resources for "personal reasons." She also violated several journalistic rules, including using sources in her family without revealing as such to readers.
You can read an interesting take on the matter by the editor she tried to "out" here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive372#Attem pted_Outing_of_Wikipedia_Editor_User:Griot_by_Tawdry_Tabloid_Journalist
Wikipedia just keeps getting more interesting....
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Problem with blub
Comment by Will Harper, Managing Editor, SF Weekly on Feb 26th, 2008, 13:55 pm
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Mary Spicuzza's ethics
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Re: Mary Spicuzza's ethics
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Re: Re: Mary Spicuzza's ethics
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Anonymity or IP edits?
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The Question Is Whether WP's Irresponsibility Is Good For Society
The question that people ought to be asking is not whether anonymity is good for Wikipedia, but whether Wikipedia's anonymity is good for Society.
Wikipedia is a place for social, moral, and intellectual adolescents, for people who haven't yet taken the step to a level of maturity where they naturally choose to take responsibility — for what they write and for how they treat other people.
There are plenty of reason for having low pressures environments where people can escape, temporarily, from the pressures of full-fledged adult responsibility, so long as they can do that in a way that harms neither themselves nor others. That is why we have chat-rooms and holodecks. But a general purpose, wannabe reliable encyclopedia and all-round news source is not one of those places. Sadly, all too sadly, far too many Wikipediots have yet to learn the difference. Whether they know it or not, Wikipedia space cadets harm both themselves and others by staying too long in the moral and intellectual vacuum known as Wikipedia.
Jon Awbrey
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Re: Your ethics?
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What really happened
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Gutsy indeed!
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We studied this too!
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