Another Author Shows JK Rowling How To Embrace Fans
from the don't-sue-them,-for-starters dept
We covered the ridiculous lawsuit that JK Rowling had filed against a fan who created a reference book, The Harry Potter Lexicon to supplement her massively popular novels. At the actual trial, it appeared that Rowling didn't have much of a legal argument against the publication, so she went for an emotional argument that can be summed up as: she just didn't like it.Contrast that to situation around author Stephenie Meyer and her Twilight Vampire books (as pointed out by Against Monopoly). Meyer actively embraced the fan community as much as impossible -- including encouraging fans to create a comparable Twilight Lexicon reference guide, Meyer not only was thrilled, she helped fill in some characters' back stories. And, it's worked. The community has responded to her and become huge evangelists for the series and everything associated with it. These days, if your fans want to help advertise your works for you, it seems pretty backwards to then sue them for it. Nice to see that other successful authors aren't following Rowling's awful lead.
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That'd probably be why she went on record saying that Dumbledore was gay, rather than just a nice old man, right?
No, Rowling likes having control, and she got pissed when someone took 'her' ideas and did something with them without her permission.
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And, she also didn't have a problem when the creator put the information up on a website. IIRC, she actually remarked positively about the website.
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Vampires were played out a deacde ago. A bunch of mopey, arrogant, pretenious blood suckers that only fat mopey girls who have never been layed can fantasize about.
Anyone worth their salt these days is thoroughly into zombies.
This chick HAS to hand over reigns to the "fans" because that's the only way you can make any headway with such a played out, boring, uninteresting concept as "yet more vampire crap".
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Of course, I could give a rats ass about vampires and zombies, too.
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That's why she's looking for new blood. As any good vampire would.
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Labels got old in the 7th grade.
Secondly you obviously have no clue what your aruguing becuase you obviously havent read the twilight saga books.
You probably were the 'fat mopey girl who had never been layed.' And who cares? nobodys discussing topics, there discussing fan base.
If you had read the books however, you would have seen that the vampires in this story are nothing like the half-baked ghoulish creeps that actually have been played out.
Lastly, she embraced her fan base becuase maybe she actually realizes that without her fans, the series would be nothing! Unlike Rowling who seems to think that all the fans that supported her had nothing to do with the millions of dollars she now possess
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What she wants is fucking irrelevant to copyright law. Fuck her.
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Like she cares what you think
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That is, if she angers her fans now, she may not be able to sell anything later, a la Metallica.
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Billionaire Mindset
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Sue your fans, and they get mad at you??? what a crazy idea?
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In related news, a watched pot does boil.
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Many different books have been published about the Harry Potter universe, but they've all been composed of original, historical, and other legal content. These publications were not fought.
Rowling loves her fans. There's even a book about the Harry Potter fan community, whose author speaks frequently with Rowling.
The book in question was essentially a print version of the internet site, so one only needs to visit that website to see how much is taken directly from J.K. Rowling's books without proper citation.
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Since the book in question hasn't been published yet, you're apparently just parroting Rowling's complaint. You don't have any proof of your claims.
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If you don't want to show me proof that I'm wrong, then I guess we're at a stale-mate and you're gonna have to take my word for it.
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No, it was well known that they wanted to adapt the website into book form. It was automatically assumed, with no evidence, that the book was going to be a direct copy & paste job. Yes, there is a book in question. However, you cannot speak directly to the contents of that book, because it hasn't been published. You are merely speculating.
If you don't want to show me proof that I'm wrong, then I guess we're at a stale-mate and you're gonna have to take my word for it.
Burden of proof resides on those making the accusations. You're towing Rowling's argument with no evidence to back it up, and asking to be proven wrong. I decline, therefore, to take your word on anything. In order to properly argue or debate a topic, you should have some way of backing up your points.
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Lets compare.....
Who is she?
How many books has she published?
How many millions of copies she has sold?
How many books have been made into movies?
Is she a billionaire?
How many millions of Fans does she has?
Again....... who is she? A bored housewife from new england who writes because she is bored?
(I feel good about myself now. I too can thrash perfectly normal and creative people for no apparent reason :) )
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Now there's a huge backlash against not just the books, but the author. (See livejournal.com and encyclopedia dramatica for examples.)
I'm all for sharing and open dialogue with fans, but not to the point the fans turn into raving lunatic twats.
It's a fine line and her fans crossed it. For that reason alone I won't read the books, see the movie or spend any money on any associated products.
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"her fans started to bully people in other fandoms, until they read the books out of self preservation"
Are f'n kidding me? Seriously, bullying and self-preservation?
Get a grip, dude.
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The ramifications of this is clear, it changes your opinion of the author. We don't decide what happens to her but we do decide what we think of her given this information and other information.
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Let's get this straight - art belongs to society. Copyright and contracts exist to let the authors make a living from their work. After that, the rights revert to the rest of us. Would Shakespeare or Beethoven have approved of all of the many uses of their works over the last few hundred years? Probably not. Is our society better off for having those uses? Absolutely.
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"Harry Potter fan community" Holy christ, more like the get a fucking life community!
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It's obvious who actually knows what they're talking about
Stupidhead Meyer apparently also plans to publish an encyclopedia (according to an ad in her last book), no doubt getting the idea from JKR. While you say that SM has given out a lot of background info on her characters, JKR has given SO MUCH MORE. Never has a book's characters, setting, background, everything been layed out with so much detail. Unlike SM's answer to certain questions abotu her characters ("I dont know yet"), JKR actually thinks about her writing.
JKR KNOWS she has no one to thank for her wealth but her fans. SM, oh boohoo, feels sad that she became popular enough for people to actually care enough to read a leaked book, and bailed on her fans. She also blatantly refused to accept that SO MANY of her fans hated her last book. You tell me now who respects her fans.
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