Missing The Point In Movie Attendance Numbers
from the welcome-to-the-world-today dept
The movie industry has been whining about its plight for ages in the new digital era, even as the industry brings in record revenues year after year after year. The latest is a NY Times piece which, while 'fessing up to those record revenues, tries to suggest that the industry isn't doing so well because so-called movie "blockbusters" don't attract as big an attendance as in the past. Of course, that really misses the point. The industry is in the business of making money -- not in putting the largest number of people in seats -- so if it's bringing in record amounts of cash, that's really all that should matter. If the industry wanted to get more people in seats then it should start by lowering the price and improving the overall movie-going experience. However, for the most part, the industry has shown little inclination to go in that direction -- so the fact that "blockbuster" movies of 2008 matched attendance numbers of less-well known movies from a decade ago is fairly meaningless.The article seems to place the "blame" on studios overhyping openings, so that we hear so much hype about some new movie that many people are immune to the hype, filtering out all of the claims about how such a movie is a "must see" or whatever. I'm not sure that's true, however. It would seem that a much more likely culprit is that there is a lot more competition for any individual's entertainment hours these days than there was a decade ago. There's the internet, for one, which has grown massively in popularity and as an entertainment source since 1998. Then there's the rise of gaming consoles, home theaters and DVD rental services (you could rent VHS tapes, but services like Netflix have made DVDs even more popular) and plenty of other options that just didn't provide the same sort of competition a decade ago.
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Larger theaters..
tHE REAL QUESTION COMES WITH, why ARE PEOPLE WILLING TO WAIT FOR A dvd release, INSTED of going to a theater?
Or even DEAL with online DL, and CRAP versions that dont sound very good, and have persons WALKING thru the vid..
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theirs no place like home...
Sure I have to wait till the movie comes out on dvd but thats a small price to pay. I perfer the comfort of my home where i can pause too do whatever without missing one part of the film, or not have to here the teens in the back making jokes during the movie.
its about the experiance and i think that if many people are like me they get a better one at home at half the price.
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YEP..
Quiet..
CONTROLLED..
DRINK a beer..
Popcorn and candy and a drink WONT SET you back $20..
TAKE a date and DOUBLE that...
TAKe a family?? LAUGH!! there went $50 FAST..
SAVe your $7-10 for the DVD..
Watch it on the NEt and SEE if its WORTH it..
Setup in your OWN HOME.. $500 computer, $200+ Worth of speakers(if you want BASS), and you can watch LOTS of movies, AS WELL as ONLINE movies..and Anime/cartoon, and PROGRAMS that will NEVEr see the light of DAY again..
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Re: YEP..
$20 for parking; $2-$4 for gasoline
30-45 minutes travel time from living room to theater seat
30 minutes travel time back home from final credits to living room.
Two hour movie is really 2:15 when you factor in the front end commercials.
My wife and I are going out less and watching DVD more. My wife still sees lots of movies; I watch many less than I used to - there are so many other entertainment options available.
Just yesterday I read through the list of the top 20 grossing movies of 2008. I saw 3 of them in the theater (and one on an airplane.) Three more I will catch on TV sometime in the future. The rest don't interest me. My wife saw 5 of the 20 in a theater.
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Precisely!
This statement is the best I've ever read regarding the movie industry. Lawsuits, high priced DVDs, and, as explained, high priced movie tickets is why I no longer "rush" to see the latest "blockbuster".
Since the movie industry lost its focus long ago, consumers easily saw this and quit going to the theaters. I'm sure many of you remember that span in the late 90s, early 00s in which movies just sucked.
Now the industry's whining about theater drops? What complete morons.
Maybe, just maybe, if the industry focused on MAKING MOVIES instead of making profits, people would return to the theaters?
Personal note: The last movie I saw in the theaters was "The Dark Knight". Not only a Batman fan, but a Nolan fan after his first direction of the new franchise. It was this combination which got me away from the couch of "on demand" movies, not prices.
However, while watching the movie, I started to remember why I didn't like going. Uncomfortable seats, teenagers being... teenagers, the grossly unacceptable price of popcorn and soda, and, finally, that one crying baby (luckily it was before the movie).
I'd be very hard pressed to go to the theater again, even if the Nolan/Goyer combination is set up for the third installment.
Going to the movies is no longer an enjoyable experience and I don't believe there's anything the industry can do to change this.
Oh, wait! Yes there is! Quit charging theaters to show the movie would be a damn good start.
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Otherwise, I will gladly spend 7 dollars to see a movie, maybe even twice in a row.
There is a local movie theater that has $2 seats and shows one movie at a time for two weeks that came out a while ago. It also does things like Rocky Horror showings and what not.
If the cinemas can do something about cell phones, movies would be a lot more enjoyable.
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why oh why
And, what do we get for our money? Twenty years ago, they were actually producing original movies, not doing rehashes of old movies which dishonor the original. Take Bad News Bears... the original with Walter Matthau was funny, original and entertaining. The remake with Billy Bob whatshisname was vulgar, amateurish and certainly not something to take your children to. And then, they pay these 'stars' obscene amounts of money. You want to complain how much CEOs make? Look at these brainless twits reading lines from cue cards. Nobel laureates like Sean Penn, Alec Baldwin, Tom Cruise... Then there are the actors who use the $20-$30 MILLION they earn from each film to fight for their politically correct 'causes', almost exclusively liberal.
No, the movie industry has left me.
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The local multiplex is far busier in the middle of the week when they run the orange-sponsored 2-for-1 ticket deal then any time over the weekend.
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PITA
No thanks. I'll stay home or go to a friends house. It's clean, convenient, and the price is right.
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Idiots
$13.50 each for tickets = $27
Large Popcorn, Large drink and 2 boxes of candy = $18
That's $45 for TWO people... and that's IF you share a popcorn and drink... otherwise it goes over $50.
You can do alot of other things for $50. Heck, I can play EQ2 for 3 months... or WoW for 5 months... or buy a new Wii game... or buy 2 DVDs... go out to eat at a decent restaraunt.
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For the record
For reasons that are unclear, the charges were later dismissed and Doe’s
records were sealed. Doe claims, however, that the arrest and prosecution — and the
publicity that accompanied them — caused lasting harm to his reputation, family life, and
employment prospects.
At least the cops/prosecutor/judge had some common freakin since.
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Re: For the record
I think you are looking for the next thread.
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Too Expensive
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Movie Hype
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What I drew from the article was that in spite of all the hype that is going on right now about these so called mega movies, the numbers are down from both an attendance perspective and a sales perspective, and even DVD sales are waning.
This means that the average consumers' viewing habits are slowing shifting, so the studios need to find new ways to get money from their libraries, and the parent companies need to start looking at other areas to invest their capital because higher budgets don't produce the same ROI anymore.
I'm sure that we'll see a lot more money being invested into online ventures as that's probably one of the few remaining growth areas for media right now.
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So a trade off has to be made somewhere. Well let's see The Day the World Stood Still is playing at the theater. Hmmm sounds like an aliens are here to destroy us kinda movie, but Sci-Fi channel is playing Independence Day, and I got a DVD of War of the Worlds the other day I haven't watched yet. What to do?
So why should I see a movie industry movie in a theater as opposed to a movie industry movie at home?
First off I hate large crowds. I never have, and never will, see a movie on opening weekend. I always wait as least a week or three, minimum before I see any movie (and sometimes I wait too long and it's gone before I can see it). People, even when attempting to be silent, still make noise (shifting in there seat, breathing, scratching an itch, perhaps an involuntary cough or sneeze) and in large crowds those little sounds can increase exponentially. Movies make very little profit off mostly empty theaters however, but there is very little they can do to encourage/convince people like me to sit in nearly full houses.
"Theater worthy" - Is it worth my time (and money, but that's my next point) to see on a big screen. For example, I consider American Pie to be on my "must see" list, but I see no significant reason that see such a movie (generally comedies, dramas, and the ilk) need to be seen on the big screen. Big screen viewing for me is for mostly action movies (Lord of the Rings, The Dark Knight, Iron Man). Part of that has to do with with the next point: cost.
Yeah. A matinee movie is going to cost me $4.50 ($7 to catch it in the evening). Snacks? $3 for a small bag of popcorn and $3.50 for a small cup of watered down syrup the try to claim is soda? Uh, no thanks I'll smuggle in a bag of twizlers and a 24 ounce soda. The only real advantage I see to paying that much for most movies is the "first" factor (which will never happen due to the aforementioned dislike of crowds), all while running the risk of the next point: the "suckage" factor.
Yeah some people know how to make good movies, but as a whole the studios don't know how to make movies for shit. A good example is "The Movie That Shall Remain Nameless" (otherwise known as Batman and Robin), one of only three non-B rates movies (and I've sat all the way through some pretty weak B movies) I've turned off about half way through. If I'd been in this movie I'd have it scrubbed from my resume, and sued to have my name removed from the credits. Had I actually paid good money for this, and caught it for the first time on commercial TV, I'd have been rather upset.
When even just competing with itself, there is little reason to get me to go to a movie theater to see most movies. Of all the 2009 releases I've seen coming so far, the only one I can say for certain I'll see on the big screen is Wolverine. Otherwise I'll spend time catching up on other movies I've yet to see like Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Chronicles of Riddick. Hellboy and Hellboy II, heck I hear there's a new Tron movies in the works and I've never actually seen more than a few snippets of the first one.
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