Storage Isn't Much Of An Issue Anymore
from the is-that-the-library-of-congress-in-your-pocket-or... dept
The trade group behind the SD memory card format today announced a new standard, called SDXC, that will support memory cards of up to 2 terabytes for devices like digital cameras and cell phones. While the amount of storage that can be crammed into smaller and smaller physical formats continues to grow, the idea of being able to carry around 2 terabytes of data in a device like a smartphone still seems pretty amazing. Combined with the growth of broadband networks, particularly wireless ones, are we nearing a point where the accessibility of data will no longer be a concern? Between being able to easily carry around most, if not all, of your data and always-on broadband networks making the rest of it constantly accessible, the point at which we can easily access any of our information from any location looks to be just over the horizon. That's not to say that plenty of obstacles remain, including our ever-growing demand for more and more storage space, and the need for more pervasive (and less restrictive) wireless broadband networks, but those obstacles are becoming less and less formidable all the time.
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re: 2TB in your pocket..
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Just use encryption and backups, problem solved.
as the price of storage drops, so too does the cost of redundancy.
i use a few USB hard drives as backup devices. i keep one in a fireproof box at home, and one at a relative's house. i rotate them from time to time to keep them current.
if i had a 2TB sd card, you could probably snail mail them with a single stamp.
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not convinced
As we create larger and larger storage devices we also begin to use larger and larger files.
I think we will see a big shift in media, even on the mobile market with devices like the HTC touch HD, sony X1 and other HD devices to higher definition video.
Also bigger storage is likely to mean people using higher bitrate MP3 or even less compressed formats.
Whilst media alone wont fill 2 TB, couple this with larger programs and 2 TB wont be as much as it is today.
We also need to remember that it will be years before we see the 2 TB cards and with the explosion on mobile technology the increased memory requirements will likely run parallel to the larger cards.
today we simply laugh at this famous bill gates quote "640 kb ought to be enough for everybody."
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Re: not convinced
That turned out to be wrong. Most people can operate just fine on a 5-or-6-year-old machine, even for business purposes. Sure, if you are using high-end 3D or modeling applications (or a ridiculously bloated OS like Vista), that is not the case. But, for the average user, computers are WAY overpowered, hence the booming popularity of netbooks and value desktops.
I think storage will end up the same way. If they can fit 2 terabytes on a memory card, just how much can they fit on a hard-drive-sized device? 100TB? 1000TB? I don't know, but it's a whole lot. And, with the continually plummeting cost of online storage, I think it's clear that supply is ALREADY outpacing demand on the storage side. This can only help.
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who cares?
i remember in the early 90's when a friend of mine bought a 1GB hard drive and saying to him something to the effect of "you'll never fill it, there isn't enough data in the world to justify a whole gigabyte."
i also remember a few short years later, marvelling at the first 10gb seagate barracuda which was several hundred dollars at the time and laughing at myself for saying that 1gb was superfluous.
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For UK Audiences
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Yeah, but...
Carrying 2 TB of my info on a SD card sounds fabo, until I consider how easily someone could get their hands on that. I still leave my most important data on a server behind all the appropriate security. What's left wouldn't need 2 TB of space...
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Control and Ownership is worth something
Isn't it nice when Walmart or Microsoft or AOL say they are going to discontinue your storage service? Do you want to pay ATT or Comcast or Verizon to access your media?
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Missing the point
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Carefull there. A Raid drive is not a built-in backup solution. It's an efficient but dumb device. It does what it's told to do. And if that is to delete or munge your data, it will do so across all of the drives consistently - "that" is what a Raid drive does...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/02/1546214
Oooops! Journalspace is no more. Data unrecovereable...
http://journalspace.com/this_is_the_way_the_world_ends/not_with_a_bang_but_a_wh imper.html
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The problem is bandwidth...
A very quick search found the following advertised bandwidth rates for mobile broadband (downloads):
Verizon - 400-700 kbps up to 2.0 Mbps
Altel - Up to 2.4 Mbps
Sprint - 400-700 Kbps up to 2.4 Mbps
That's mobile. Even fixed location "landlines" aren't outstanding on speed (FIOS not available in my area - which is the 20th largest city in the US) with DSL typically getting maximum of 1.5 Mbps and cable in the 6 Mbps ranges.
Sure, I can get a 2TB card - but unless I fill it beforehand I still don't have easy access to significant amounts of data.
The current bottleneck of so many new technologies is still the "last mile" problem of getting the data where it needs to go.
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Re: The problem is bandwidth...
Yes and no. For up-to-the-minute data, bandwidth is very important. But vast storage space can outweigh bottlenecks caused by limited bandwidth for older data. For example, when I first entered the professional IT world, the term "SneakerNet" was used to describe transferring a file by walking a floppy disk from one location to another. Imagine how the SneakerNet would work when you have massive flash drives...
Friend A: "Hey, do you have the MP3 of the latest song by XYZ?"
Friend B: "Sure. I also have every song ever recorded since 1962. Want those too?"
Sure, we may be a ways away from this, but as storage gets bigger, I personally think you'll see more of this kind of transfer, especially with the focus on P2P networks. Yes, bandwidth is an issue, but much can be countered by massive, portable storage devices.
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they're called hard drive parties. in the old days of the warez scene, that's how you got rare stuff, by trading floppies. copying files via removable media is really the whole point of removable media.
today they're called hard drive parties or cd swaps. it's a natural extension of darknet culture.
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Right, so file trading has been happening since long before the Internet and it's still happening today. So, as portable drives reach 2 TB and beyond, instead of SneakerNet or hard drive parties, you'll have two people connecting their phones to exchange their entire music/movie/TV show collection. This is nothing new, but personally, I think that bandwidth limitations will be less of a concern as portable drive space grows.
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A couple of years back I anticipated the enormous potential of storage technology when the first TB hard disks started coming out. Since then I have been working on a music library. I've downloaded a tonne, about 100 gigs or so. I have also pilfered my friends' collections and added it to my omni-database. Owing to duplicates and orphaned mp3s and rubbish tags and such, I can't really give an accurate estimate as to how big my collection is. It's spread out over a series of 500 and 750 GB disks, but I think I have about 800 gigs of stuff, give or take. I've had friends come over with their disks to make mirror images of the things, or just to grab albums from their favourite artists. The sneakernet you speak of it my primary goal. A library or tunes for everybody, and all of it free. I've been working on a database programme to get rid of the duplicates based on keeping the highest quality tracks, and to seperate the orphans from the main stuff. In a perfect world they'd all be flac files, but alas.
It'd take ages to transfer my collection over any network, and I'd most likely go to jail for it. It's this bottleneck that stops me from doing what I really want to do, which is give my collection to the world. I really doubt I am alone in making such a library, though.
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Back to the Future
Where are we going to get that kind of memory, uh, power???
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great development
Anyone who keeps sensitive data on any portable device -- laptop, smartphone, whatever -- and doesn't take adequate precautions to hide and encrypt those files, is a fool. If the device doesn't have those capabilities, or if you don't know how to do it, don't put the stuff on there! These days, if you really have a need to access such things, you can access your file server remotely (and obviously the file server should be firewalled and accessible only via a strong security key).
These days, with pretty much no legal limits anymore on the strength of encryption private citizens can use, there are plenty of ways to secure your sensitive data out the wazoo -- including double-key encryption locks that automatically run the files through a seven to ten pass overwrite if on the xth try, the wrong password is still entered. Overkill for most, and not cheap, but I know lawyers who do that when they are working on bet-the-company high stakes matters if they have to travel with the data and won't be able to access it remotely or forward it separately to their destination.
Meanwhile, I look forward to the day when I can put a truly massive flash card in a smartphone, and expect that with that much storage, hard drives may go the way of horse and buggy.
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2TB? - Oh, the HUMANITY!
...Oh, wait... You mean I will STILL have the PITIFULLY SLOW access speed that I have today? Nah, thanks anyway, I'll just use smaller cards until you get that fixed.
I really don't want anything over, oh, let's say 100 gigs until the access speed issued gets addressed. Can you imagine the wait time even for that (small?) amount of data?
Transferring 2TB onto an SD card would be a weekend-long exercise at today's speeds.
Who needs that? Not me.
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SDXC uses exFAT filesystem, which is proprietary and closed. You cannot get sources at all. You can get instructions how to use it (as a manufacturer) after signing NDA only.
Linux, Mac etc. are left out, on purpose.
If/when we get to reverse-engineer this, there's also patents to worry about.
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WOW GAMING IS REQIERING TOO MUCH STORAGE
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