YouTube Moves On To Blocking All Music Videos In The UK
from the nice-job,-PRS dept
Following in the footsteps of Warner Music's debacle in overplaying its hand and having all its music removed from YouTube -- leading to a ton of fan and artist resentment pointed at Warner Music, it looks like the UK's Performing Right Society (PRS) is going down the same route. After making demands on Google that would make it so that the company was losing significant money every time a video was watched, Google has simply pulled music videos down in the UK. Basically, Google is making the point to PRS: you need us much more than we need you.I'm not entirely sure if this is in effect already. I'm in the UK right now and a quick search on YouTube found all of the videos I looked for. However, it seems that Google knows that it's the one with the leverage in these negotiations and is finally letting other parties recognize that. The record labels keep demanding more without any actual reason for it, insisting that 100% of the value comes from the music, rather than the service and the promotions. It's about time that some of the service providers proved they were wrong. Yes, the music is part of the value, but it certainly appears that a much bigger part of the value is the community that Google brings at YouTube.
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Are people finally getting it?
We'll see how this plays out, given people are just too stupid and will begin blaming Google for the lack of video links, not the PRS.
If this idea of standing up against record labels (et al) worked, then the online streaming websites should have also joined, as well as television producers (using music in shows), creative designers (using music in design), and anything else related to, but not distributing, music.
But we'll never see this because each of those industries also relies on distribution. Will Google block these as well?
It's appalling the entire industry over creative works is so screwed, change gets worse before it even gets better.
Only those willing to fire their distributors and take the role on themselves have a clue about how to reach an audience, targeted or not.
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Re: Are people finally getting it?
People won't figure it out on their own, necessarily, but they WILL understand if you stick it under their noses.
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It's happening from 6pm UK time tonight...
Probably preaching to the choir here on TechDirt, but there are some record industry shills on this page...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2009/mar/09/digital-music-and-audio-youtube?commentpage =3
For all the people on the MediaGuardian.co.uk blog claiming Google is a big nasty evil corporation, stealing food from the mouth of the poor struggling musician, um, let's not forget a few solid facts which blows your victim status to shreads.
Those lot are on the side of companies such as EMI, SonyBMG, Warners and Universal - known for price-fixing and artist-screwing since the dawn of rock'n'roll.
PRS - an outdated dinosaur whose continued existence is truly jaw-dropping - goes round demanding £400+ a year from small businesses who have a radio on in the background (tuned into stations that have already paid £15 a minute to PRS). Anyone think these people are the heroes? They're truly screwing the little guys, that's their business model.
And to demand more money than YouTube gets in revenue, to hand out to a list of artists/labels they won't even disclose? That serves as evidence that PRS are not on the side of musicians or music lovers. A greedy secretive outdated protection racket that's clearly dying. A digital Taliban that is obsolete in this age.
If you are a musician, you should be on the side of YouTube. The PRS's continued greed has just seen your videos removed, along with the very valuble purchase-from-iTunes link that was gaining you revenue. Don't be surprised when music fans simply pop over to p2p services such as Pirate Bay to get the music for NOTHING instead. All because of PRS's dumb and excessive persuit.
The demise of the recording industry is beautiful, it'll continue as long as the labels and PRS refuse to acknowledge the way music consumption has changed for the 21st Century.
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This is great
In other words, despite all of the laws put in place, despite all of the DRM, despite all of the control people try to exert it will have to be a complete trainwreck before media companies give up on it.
UK losing access to music videos is exactly that kind of trainwreck. Now people searching for videos will go elsewhere (and those sites probably aren't willing to work with content providers). And many fans just won't care.
Overall, if the industry continues enforcing copyright here, they will simply lose sales.
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The Masnicks seem to be outraged by this which is quite odd since when e.g microsoft use what influence they have to claim more of the browser market the Masnicks claim this is just competition and everyone benefits, similarly when Intel tried to push OLPC out of it's market.
So what it the difference/consistence with these positions ? - is it just that the Masnicks always need to align themselves with winners ?
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Warner Music and Sony BMG compete with each other, not with Google.
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Day of Silence
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Problem is if I went onto youtube and found myself without any sound then it would probably be a while before i tried again. To prevent that Google would have to make it very clear that it was only for one day. That would take a lot of pressure off of the labels.
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"but, but, but, we should be getting mega$ It's not fair waaaah waaah I want my mommy!"
I'm so glad I live in China where copyright and patents are ignored. Wait but so is free speech, and other corrupting western ideas. Damn, I've run out of things to say.
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the PRS wants to "get paid for their advertising" instead of having to "pay for advertising"?
To me, music videos are akin to advertising...I don't really consider them entertainment. I seldom watch them...there's enough advertising in my life.
I'm pretty sure I could live without them on YT.
I didn't understand, tho, that music and lyric writer's were paid separately from the performer (artist) and is covered by a different representational group.
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Go ahead YouTube - block yourselves right outta' business.
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It'll just push music fans to the Pirate Bay, and any musicians who are members of the PRS (an organisation which bullies hairdresses and garages into paying £475 a year if they have a radio on in the background) will have to evaluate what exactly the hell PRS do to promote music, 'cos I sure can't see what it is!
PRS 0 - P2P 1. The record industry's long suicide note continues!
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Will the music industry ever learn?
Who suffers?
The fan, as usual, who just lost a major source of music discovery and found another reason to be angry at the music industry.
But it's the UK music industry that is the biggest looser.
From online royalties to ISP interference, the birthplace of The Beatles and Sex Pistols seems determined to send the message that it has no intention of being an incubator for new music tech and the new music industry itself.
Sad.
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Community??
Google certainly provides most of the value, in the form of storage space and bandwidth, but community? YouTube is useful in spite of it's "community" not because of it. XKCD cartoon to illustrate my point
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You and the Labels panic when the market says it won't pay more than $0, but you don't recognize that there are other things that are aided by free music -- the extra demand drives sales elsewhere. So suck it up and capture those other sales.
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Google getting too big for it's own good?
Well, at least people in the UK won't get rick-rolled anymore!
There is a good proxy Brits can use to bypass this nonsense: http://ukproxies.com
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guess who lost?
((hint: it was not the TV company :D))
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You Tube Has Done What The Majors Could Not Do Alone
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Google should charge copyright holders for hosting and bandwidth instead.
If copyright holders wants to insist their materials are hosted in youtube, Google should charge copyright holders for hosting and bandwidth instead.
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Educational/ Documentary videos being compromized by Copyrighted audio
Here are samples of my informative/ documentary YouTube videos being blocked to Germany and other countries due to audio content claim...
(Click the links)
All videos conforms with Copyright's "Fair Use" (sections 107 through 118 or Copyright Law - title 17, U. S. Code). *Amazing Girl Handicapped Artist" (Music: Here With Me by Plumb, content owned by Sony Music. Video blocked in Germany... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9gE9oP3MYk
"Sculpture Tutorial- Modeling Clay Preparation, Armature & Mold Making" (One of 3 music tracks - That's What You Get by Paramore, owned by Warner. Previously muted - Dispute successful and restored to original state... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZQeubTMp5o
A Journey Through Life- Manny de Guzman, Jr. (Life Story). Music owned by Sony Music. Video blocked in Germany... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAOpQEnzcs
MANNY DE GUZMAN, JR.
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