Kentucky Election Officials Arrested For Changing Votes On E-Voting Machines
from the security... dept
While there have been plenty of conspiracy theories over the years concerning e-voting machines, none have been particularly compelling. The evidence looked like plenty of incompetence, with buggy machines that had huge security flaws that could be exploited -- but we hadn't heard of any cases of anyone actually being caught tampering with or trying to tamper with votes. That isn't to say it didn't happen. It's possible that it happened and the perpetrators weren't caught -- but it's a big leap from it "could" happen, to it "did" happen. So, most of our coverage here has been very much on the bugs and the flaws, rather than any of the conspiracy theories that floated around.However, it appears that a group of Kentucky election officials, the circuit court judge and the county clerk, were arrested for changing votes in various elections between 2002 and 2006 on e-voting machines. The details suggest that there were two parts to the vote changing. First, there was traditional vote buying -- where they paid people to vote in a certain way. However, the second involved actually changing voters' votes on ES&S e-voting machines.
It didn't involve any hacking or direct security flaws -- but the elections officials made use of the confusing user interface and process of the e-voting machines to trick voters into leaving before their votes had been cast. That's because there's a "vote" button, that some people (silly them!) assumed meant they actually voted. Nope. It turns out that just gets you to a page to review your vote and then confirm it. However, these elections officials told people that once they hit vote they had voted -- and were then able to go in and change the actual votes.
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Still, I don't understand why these overly-complicated voting systems that completely counteract common sense make it through review and certification. Well, I suppose I do understand, so stuff like this can happen.
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Hanging ain't good enough for 'em
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This same technique could have been done with paper ballots or the old booth machines with the pull handle.
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This is more of the end user not reading before they click (how most spyware gets installed). This time, they payed attention to the election officials (saying that it was done early) instead of their own eyes (reading a confirmation page and hitting submit). Usually a bad idea.
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You're kidding me
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Vote Fraud
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We need a law that says all laws have an expiration date attached to them. If they are not renewed then your stupid law expires. Imagine that! I could ride in the back of a pickup truck in Kentucky with a sheep and not be worried about going to prison! YAY!!
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Also Term limits for everything dealing with Public services ?
Would this include Police, Fire, Libraries, Teachers ect ?
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Unfortunately, there is no requirement to actually _read_ any law being re-voted on. So what's a politician to do when faced with a 6,000+ page bill that's reached its "sunset"? Why, just hurry up and vote it through without reading it, of course! They're busy people, and honestly, why should they bother actually representing the people that elected them? It's not like it's their _job_ or anything...
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What Is Missing In The Story you Linked to?
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Um. No. We make a conscious effort to never name the political party of either side, because it's usually irrelevant. I'm a member of neither party and dislike both parties. I dislike partisanship, and using the party affiliation distracts from the conversation... which is exactly what you're doing.
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..?..?..?..?..?..?... not that it isn't something to note.. ?
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Perception gets warped when individuals hailing from a specific party are elected to (or maneuver themself into) very powerful positions, where their corruption is felt far and wide. Doesn't mean there's more corruption, it just means that more people notice it.
That you're still (in this day and age) latched on to political labels shows you haven't learned (politically) to think for yourself.
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Vote fraud should be like next in line to treason.
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I live here, and RICO is the right charge.
I was asked to audit an election in a county just east of the one reported here, and I believe I could have done a first rate job of spoofing the voting machine reports if I had any agents in the County Clerk's office-what suprises me is that with all the complicty reported here (the Clerk & staff were party to the crime), that the machines were not more sorely perverted.
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vote tampering
Or, try figuring out what happened in 2000 when machines tallied differnt numbers for Gore in Florida-taking away thousands of votes (it's why the vote was originally called for him, then against him in FL, people)
I remember seeing a an ABCNews.com story about it late on election night, and making a bookmark for that page
Of course the page doesn't exist anymore but thats not the point
and what about the couple of times (different dates)I voted for a dem only to have the vote switch in front of me to a repub? This has been seen in news reports over and over
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Why are we saying it's the VOTERS who cheat?
Now that it's been caught, how many thieves will try to imitate this fraud?
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