Anti-File Sharing Propaganda Back To Focusing On That Horrible Malware You'll Get
from the unprotected-file-sharing-is-bad dept
The thing that you sort of need to admire about the copyright maximalist lobby is that they attack the problem from so many different directions on such a constant basis. It's almost impossible to keep up -- though, you do begin to notice some patterns. A particularly popular move is to alternate between the moral argument against copyright infringement (stealing! bad!) and the idea that file sharing is going to destroy your computer (we're just looking out for your safety!). It looks like the industry is back on that latter kick, as two recent stories indicate.First, the BSA has its widely debunked "piracy" numbers -- but it's now getting news for focusing instead on how you're going to get malware if you file share. Since it can't actually back up its bogus numbers, instead it's hoping that most people don't know that correlation doesn't mean a causal relationship -- but at least we know that most of our readers know better. The report notes that there's a correlation between higher piracy rates and higher malware infections, but seems to totally ignore exceptions to that rule (the US) or delve into other variables that may explain either the piracy rate (already questionable) or the malware rate (education levels? poverty? shared computers? etc.). Even more amusing, they claim (with no actual evidence) that those who get malware have to spend more to repair their computers than it would have cost to get the legitimate software in the first place. I have no doubt that there are risks for those who file share, but this report does nothing to show the actual risks and is yet another in a long line of weak propaganda from the BSA, that despite being called on it for years, never seems to do anything to back up its reports with facts.
Then, we have the story of the MPAA apparently sending a bunch of anti-piracy comic books to New Zealand, home of one of many different fights on how to change copyright law. The comic book, like the BSA report, involves plenty of ridiculous and unsubstantiated claims about how file sharing will unleash nasty malware and viruses all over your computers -- but drawn in nice comic book form. Can we send those kids who got the MPAA comic book a copy of the Tales from The Public Domain comic books as well? There are free digital downloads for anyone who wants to hand them out in exchange for the bogus MPAA ones....
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On the other hand, buying legitimate product could screw up your computer even more...
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On the other hand, buying legitimate product could screw up your computer even more...
Isn't that the truth, I'm still trying to afford to replace the computer that NWN 2 Ruined...
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Gah, these reports aren't just misleading
Oh and also? Their efforts to try to force purchases by withholding security patches for non-licensed copies just make the problem worse (especially where botnets are concerned).
And, and, even if they weren't withholding patches, they are so uptight about keeping their code secret that they won't let users protect themselves from vulnerabilities (usually owing to either lazy coding or bad QA) while waiting for the patch to be released. Well guess what? The people who write exploit code don't care about the EULA.
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Oh, but I hasten to add
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I got to agree - but who is seeding the poison?
I deleted alot of questionable programs cleaned the pc's and removed the malware.
I told them the dangers of the www and showed them the bill I gave "mom and dad".
Those "smart enough" are SMART ENOUGH to avoid malware. The rest just grist for the mill.
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Oh, right, I forgot that shills belong to the anti-intelligence pro-ignorance clan.
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how the hell does a game or any other program for that matter, permantly ruin a whole computer?
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Did you even read the post? I'm not just "lumping them in". Most of the post highlights exactly the false claims they're pushing out there. The post was addressing that.
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A system restore will only undo a limited set of changes to the system. It's not as if it makes a perfect snapshot of your entire system and then copies it back when you restore. It mostly only restores the registry and key system files.
how the hell does a game or any other program for that matter, permantly ruin a whole computer?
How about wiping the BIOS? True, that doesn't premanently ruin the computer, but if the user doesn't have a copy of the BIOS on a disk/disc and know how to have the system automatically flash it, the system is effectively ruined.
I've never had a program permanently ruin a computer, but I have had major problems with supposedly legitimate software. For example;
A demo version of PowerDVD that I installed and then uninstalled, deleted the entire contents of My Documents (Windows 98). I lost over 200 files that not even file recovery software could find. I know I should have had a backup, but that's no excuse for a program just deleting files that don't belong to it. Cyberlink denied that their program could have caused this, but I tested it three more times and it deleted all the files every time. Of course they're not liable for this because I "agreed" to the EULA that lets them weasel out of any damage caused by bugs in their program.
I installed a freeware video conversion program on my system and it "upgraded" some of my system files. The installer told me I had to reboot to complete the installation and when I did, I was unable to run ANY third party software. Pretty much everything but Explorer gave me an error about a corrupt DLL file. I couldn't even get on the net. I spent about half an hour going through all the CAB files on the Windows CD until I finally found the DLL in question, copied it to the proper directory, rebooted and 80% of my software was working. I sent an email to the author who replied and sent me a list of the 4-5 other system DLLs that had been "upgraded" with supposedly official MS versions. Once I replaced all of the modified DLLs, everything worked again. When I asked why a video conversion program was messing with system files, I never got an answer. He seemed kind of offended that I accused his program of screwing up my system.
Whenever possible, I download no-install or "portable" versions of programs.
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No love?
Or was I not the only one...
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If I were a malware writer...
In any case the design features of current h/w and s/w that are used by malware were mostly added to facilitate DRM (or "copy protection" as it was known back then).
DRM and malware are technically indistinguishable. The design objective of both of them is to "control the computer in such a way that you can achieve an objective against the wishes of the person who is in physical possession of it, preferably without their knowledge".
If you were to redesign the PC h/w and s/w to reduce malware you would make DRM more ot less impossible
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Under your economic views digital goods should generally be "free" (quotations used because "free" can mean many things depending upon circumstances...and not a pejorative jab). Software, however, presents a situation that in my view is unique from digital goods produced by the entertainment industries. The former is utilitarian. Generally the latter are not.
Even assuming for purposes of argument that the BSA's loss numbers are inaccurate, as yet I have not seen a rejoinder that attempts to inject some measure of accuracy into its figures. Moreover, as yet I have not seen the proffer of any suggestion as to how you would have the software industry redirect its business models to conform to your economic views. While open-source has been embraced by some companies and users, there is still much to recommend proprietary software because of the unique needs of many individual users and industries.
I hope this helps you better understand the motivation underlying my comment.
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Why not wipe the disk and perform a new install. Lots of machines these days do not come with the real OS on disk, you get these restore disks. Then you have to remove all that adware crap. Maybe you should image your hd after a restore and fix session.
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sounds like what they are really suggesting...
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The problem with these organizations is that they are fighting against reality so hard that they are harming the industries they purport to protect. As a software house, I'd love for the BSA to vanish off the face of the earth. They give the software industry a bad name.
"Software, however, presents a situation that in my view is unique from digital goods produced by the entertainment industries. The former is utilitarian. Generally the latter are not."
I don't see a relevant difference between the two. Utilitarianism doesn't seem like a logical differentiator.
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Relative Chances
In my opinion, any given member of a torrent swarm, such as myself, is indeed at a heightened risk. As most downloaders of music, authorized or not, are avid fans of music and are also the more ravenous consumers of the industry's market, they are at higher risk of industry blunders (remember Sony's brilliant rootkit fun) than ever downloading an infected file that is later allowed to infect their computers. Of course, that statistic is blatantly made up (as are 80% of them...) but should serve as an important reminder that the music recording industry, specifically, has done more harm in one fell swoop than most creators of lucrative malware ever hoped to do. While Sony eventually paid for its mistake, no organized effort could reliably poison a torrent swarm with such high yield. Torrent swarms are two fold protected in general. There is protection via file hash and check sum comparisons and then there is the vastly superior communication capacity of the torrent community itself. It would take a borderline conspiracy of the torrent community as a whole to actually allow such a massive attack utilizing the torrent protocol to work. This is, of course, excluding the more advanced malware out there that actually are capable of loading a custom torrent client as part of a trojan process and downloading more components before continuing infection. I guess the point I'm making is that beyond the hefty grain of salt we currently take this execrable abuse with, there should be some light shed on the perpetrator assuming role of a victim in more than one of the many accusations the recording industry is making.
(The hyperbolic extreme of my opinion...)
And finally, the recording industry is still ahead of the game in unpunished extortion when compared to malware crime given the chance of being caught (5% chance as of 2006 for malware, 0% for recording music). Malware is indeed attractive as you never have to deal with people, but you may get caught. Recording music only requires that you lie to the musician on occasion and then let your legal team supplement the high profit margin of sales with unabashed abuse of the legal system. But this leads to a whole new diatribe, and I have (potentially more productive) work to do.
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I lump them in because they're just as bad (and at times worse) than those other organizations.
Under your economic views digital goods should generally be "free" (quotations used because "free" can mean many things depending upon circumstances...and not a pejorative jab). Software, however, presents a situation that in my view is unique from digital goods produced by the entertainment industries. The former is utilitarian. Generally the latter are not.
Wait... are you honestly suggesting that basic economics should not apply to software? Because that's incredible. Can you back that up with *anything*?
Even assuming for purposes of argument that the BSA's loss numbers are inaccurate, as yet I have not seen a rejoinder that attempts to inject some measure of accuracy into its figures.
Why would that be my responsibility? The BSA pays IDG good money to come up with bullshit numbers. If they want to pay me to get the numbers right, they can contact us.
Moreover, as yet I have not seen the proffer of any suggestion as to how you would have the software industry redirect its business models to conform to your economic views.
Really? I discuss software industry business models all the time. In fact, I recall answer a DIRECT QUESTION from you on how firms like AutoDesk might change their business model.
Your failure to read is not my failure to explain.
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Don't get too comfortable with that approach, the scan is only as good as the signatures it compares to and it would totally miss same day exploits. Best to not execute as root (administrator) and only execute code from a reliable source - better yet, get the source and compile it yourself
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I do not recall that specific question, but my recollection concerning the general question is that it has never been answered with any specificity.
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This is a cop-out answer. You seem to have no problem gathering data telling the entertainment industries all the time that piracy "can" (note: not "will", "is likely to", etc.) increase income. I can only wonder if you have analogous data from studies of the type you regularly cite that is directed in particular to application software?
I have not seen any, but then again I do not pore over studies like you do. A simple cite will suffice to provide me grist for the mill.
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So you want me to rewrite it for you because I proved you wrong and now you just want to pretend you never saw it?
Look, it's not difficult to break down what's scarce and what's infinite here. I gave numerous examples last time, but it's not worth listing them all again. Let's just think, who benefits if such software is free? How about manufacturers or rapid prototype companies. Ok, now think a bit deeper and suddenly maybe you'll see the business model.
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No, it's a totally honest answer. It is not my job to give numbers. It doesn't make their numbers any less wrong to point out why they're wrong without giving alternative numbers.
You seem to have no problem gathering data telling the entertainment industries all the time that piracy "can" (note: not "will", "is likely to", etc.) increase income. I can only wonder if you have analogous data from studies of the type you regularly cite that is directed in particular to application software?
Sure, we've highlighted numerous businesses that have greatly profited from giving away their software for free. You seem to have a blindspot for them, but, again, I'm not sure why I'm expected to do your research for you.
I have not seen any, but then again I do not pore over studies like you do. A simple cite will suffice to provide me grist for the mill.
It's not studies, it's successful business models in action.
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