Judge Keeps Gag Order In Place On ISP Boss Over Feds Demand For Info On Customer
from the does-this-make-you-feel-safer? dept
The government has the ability to issue "national security letters" that let them demand information without a court warrant and at the same time gag those who are forced to reveal the info. Given such power, it's no surprise that the Justice Department abused it widely and conveniently forgot to report many of the uses when some oversight was attempted. The whole setup of NSLs seems highly questionable. What's wrong with actually getting a warrant? Adding a gag order to it is especially troubling -- so it was great to see an anonymous ISP owner pushback on such a use of NSLs. Last year, an appeals court limited when such NSLs could be used, tightening the standard. However, the lower court has said that, even with these tighter restrictions, the government's use of NSLs against this ISP was proper. Of course, it's difficult to determine if this actually makes sense, because the gov't revealed secret info to the judge that even those on the other side of the case were unable to see. The problem, obviously, is that there's simply no way to know if this is legit or not -- but any opportunity you give the government to say "just trust us" on being able to get otherwise private info with no oversight seems like an area ripe for abuse.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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How is your mother doing, Mike?
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NSL
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Abuse?
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In complete agreement.
Incidentally, a similar situation existed in the courts from around 1920 to about the sixties. Big companies could pick their own forum for patent disputes and during that time the courts did not uphold any small entity patents. Needless to say that a rather nasty corporate culture of entitlement developed around this situation.
Patent pirating companies whine about the Eastern Texas court because that court does not allow the kinds of abusive litigation tactics which those companies had come to view as their inalienable right.
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Re: In complete agreement.
If you are truly of the auspice that this one judge is handling patent law correctly you are not in "complete agreement", that is assured. I dont believe he allows any litigation tactics at all, just judicially assisted extortion.
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What about ACTA
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Hint: If this person or persons were a threat they either have already been picked up (in the last FIVE YEARS) or they are NOT a threat. In which case the government is lying through their damn teeth about this being a "national security" issue. So sorry. National security investigations of pressing importance don't take five years to put together. Luckily this judge is probably going to get his hand slapped on appeal, and probably on direct order from the Supreme Court.
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