Oregon Tries Claiming Copyright Over Gov't Materials Again

from the and-again dept

Fri, Oct 30th 2009 5:22pm — Mike Masnick

You may recall last year that the state of Oregon tried to claim copyright in preventing others from republishing Oregon laws. Yes, that seems incredibly counterproductive, and eventually the state backed down. However, it looks like Oregon's Attorney General is now also claiming copyright on the Attorney General's Public Record and Public Meeting Manual. Yes. A government official claiming copyright over a document on the public record. Wonderful. Carl Malamud is trying to get the Attorney General to issue an opinion that such things will not be covered by copyright. But, again, can anyone provide any good reason why any government document should be covered by copyright?

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Anonymous Coward, 30 Oct 2009 @ 5:27pm

My taxes are copyrighted. If the government wants a copy then they have to pay for the privilege. And the licensing fees are anything but cheap!

My taxes don't grow on trees.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 30 Oct 2009 @ 5:36pm

Ambrose Bierce Quote
Copyright, n: The notion that you can protect from the future what you stole from the past.
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ChurchHatesTucker (profile), 30 Oct 2009 @ 5:37pm

Re: Ambrose Bierce Quote
See, this is why we need a comment rating/favoriting system.
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RateMyComment, 30 Oct 2009 @ 6:10pm

Re: Re: Ambrose Bierce Quote
I would rate it rather high
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Anonymous Coward, 30 Oct 2009 @ 6:22pm

"But, again, can anyone provide any good reason why any government document should be covered by copyright?"

Easy. State governments are failing with their budgets, so they need a quick way to suck money out of the system that is less unpopular than increasing taxes.

Voila, copyright abuse.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 Oct 2009 @ 6:31pm

Oregon's Attorney General is now also claiming copyright on the Attorney General's Public Record and Public Meeting Manual

Well Mike, i really can't give you a reason that any government document should be covered by copyright, but in this case, this document is specifically titled as a manual for Public records and meetings, so in order to be guidance on public issues, it should be readily available to the public without any sort of license.
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The baker, 30 Oct 2009 @ 6:56pm

Economic stimulus for Oregon! ---??
If they copyright it, then enact a law that require people to own and use it, our state's budget woes will only decrease.
At twenty five bucks a pop (http://www.doj.state.or.us/pdf/publications_orderform.pdf), I wish we could require people from all states and countries to buy one. Perhaps we should enlist some private sector advice ... maybe from the the RIAA or MPAA.

Actually there are some permits and licenses that that require you to have in your possession a copy of the official rules and regulations covering that activity. If they copyright it and then sell it for some exorbitant price to those wishing to engage in that activity thus limiting that activity.
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Phillip Vector (profile), 30 Oct 2009 @ 9:17pm

Copyright Owners
Well.. If it's a public record.. and they are owned by the public.. Then if they claim copyright, then aren't we effectively suing ourselves?

Personally, I would like to give me a free pass on this court case.. I'll let myself off with a warning and only if I continue to abuse the law against myself will I then sue me.

My head hurts.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 Oct 2009 @ 11:54pm

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
hA hA hA hA hA hA hA
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Ok, now it hurts, Please stop the jokes Oregon!
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Mike Ashton (profile), 31 Oct 2009 @ 1:38am

Oregon Tries Claiming Copyright Over Gov't Materials Again
May be the Oregon State Attorney General Should read the Article About "Firebowls,copyright, and Crowdfunding.
http://techdirt.com/articles/20091030/0412566732.shtml
and get a real understanding of that copyright is intended to protect the creative act and enable the person to make a profit not, cut out all competition...that's a monopoly and that is illegal on the federal level.
Just another power hungry individual that can't handle his own political problems with ease and grace. Like Nixon he may have the tenacity to eventually succeed, we can only hope not.
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Pete Braven, 31 Oct 2009 @ 10:09am

'Copyright Law'??
Ah,.. so I suppose the end result of this mindless farce will be that all laws become 'copyright' protected which will mean they never get out of some library dungeon and on-body will have a clue what copyright law actually means anyway,..
If you take that to the silliest extreme, the fist record of written laws dates back to Moses so is Israel gonna be in with a chance to sue the entire world for 'copyright infringement'??
Oh FFS!!!!!
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Marcus Carab (profile), 31 Oct 2009 @ 10:28am

Re: Ambrose Bierce Quote
I don't know if that came off the top of your head, if you penned it after deep consideration, or if you just found it somewhere, but regardless - bravo!
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Marcus Carab (profile), 31 Oct 2009 @ 10:35am

Re: Re: Ambrose Bierce Quote
Oh, ha, I guess I should have read the title of your comment.
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TtfnJohn (profile), 31 Oct 2009 @ 7:06pm

Re: 'Copyright Law'??
Just a little note.

The first set of written laws was not those attributed to Moses but predated that known as the code of Hammurabi which Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy borrow from quite liberally. Something I'm sure some similar organization such as the MPAA or RIAA is surely interested in because there just must be 4000 years of royalities due!

ttfn

John
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Nov 2009 @ 4:08pm

There are several codes that predate Hammurabi -- he just got the best PR. The code of Ur-Nammu, for example, is about 300 years older....

And as for Oregon, they're just trying to protect themselves from having their precious intellecutal property stolen by that neighbor slut, Ida-ho.
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Blatant Coward (profile), 2 Nov 2009 @ 3:27pm

Law Pirates!
"Can anyone provide any good reason why any government document should be covered by copyright?"

So other states won't break an axle and die of cholera.
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DRG, 2 Nov 2009 @ 7:58pm

Interesting.

When government employees are co-authors on a journal article, it automatically ends up in the public domain.
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